Apple releases bugfix for 2018 MacBook Pro throttling, 70-100% improvement claimed.

NineConsonants · Jul 24, 2018

https://m.imore.com/apple-pushing-out-performance-fix-macbook-pro-2018

"Following extensive performance testing under numerous workloads, we've identified that there is a missing digital key in the firmware that impacts the thermal management system and could drive clock speeds down under heavy thermal loads on the new MacBook Pro. A bug fix is included in today's macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 Supplemental Update and is recommended. We apologize to any customer who has experienced less than optimal performance on their new systems. Customers can expect the new 15-inch MacBook Pro to be up to 70% faster, and the 13-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar to be up to 2X faster, as shown in the performance results on our website."

ToD_ · Jul 24, 2018

The 70% and 100% improvement figures are compared to the 2017 models, as stated on the Apple website. This update won't actually improve performance by that much, but should alleviate the excessive throttling found by users. It will still throttle, of course, but less so.

DekuBleep · Jul 24, 2018

Yeah apparently it was a software bug.

Even Dave Lee tweeted about the improvement.

https://twitter.com/dave2dtv/status/1021817313555755009?s=21

Biggersmaller · Jul 24, 2018

We've "fixed" the thermal management system.

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Keyframe · Jul 24, 2018

Glad to hear. 2018 mbp is back on my radar.

Deleted member 9330 · Jul 24, 2018

Let's see how this thread goes...

NineConsonants · Jul 24, 2018

ToD_ said:
The 70% and 100% improvement figures are compared to the 2017 models, as stated on the Apple website. This update won't actually improve performance by that much, but should alleviate the excessive throttling found by users. It will still throttle, of course, but less so.

Ahh, thanks for clarifying.

Aiii · Jul 24, 2018

Well then, glad it was easy to fix.

Tbm24 · Jul 24, 2018

That's a hell of a thing to miss before shipping these out if that's what it amounted to. Glad they fixed it. Egg on my and others faces if this lasts long term. Granted earlier today I caught a Reddit post about it being a vram problem more than anything else.

Cookie · Jul 24, 2018

Zeyphersan said:
Let's see how this thread goes...

This will be a shitshow.

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XMonkey · Jul 24, 2018

Early benchmark comparisons on MacRumors forums for the i9 are quite positive.

ToD_ · Jul 24, 2018

XMonkey said:
Early benchmark comparisons on MacRumors forums for the i9 are quite positive.

The MacRumors forums are blocked at my work for some reason. Any benchmarks for the i7 (15") models? Apple claims all 2018 MacBook Pros will benefit from this update.

Edit: MacRumors forums do seem to be working now. The impressions for the i7 models are positive as well. Good!

Hoo-doo · Jul 24, 2018

That was fast.

NineConsonants · Jul 24, 2018

People were swarming over the story about the throttling. I wonder why this is barely getting attention...

entremet · Jul 24, 2018

NineConsonants said:
People were swarming over the story about the throttling. I wonder why this is barely getting attention...

Apple worked directly with one of the YT fix this. I would call this a success from consumer advocacy POV.

Deleted member 40053 · Jul 24, 2018

Wont these laptops melt/burn people now?

UnholyChocolate · Jul 24, 2018

NineConsonants said:
People were swarming over the story about the throttling. I wonder why this is barely getting attention...

If you are one of the biggest tech companies and launch one of the most expensive set of laptops a d they are fucked up then it's gonna get attention.

the_bromo_tachi · Jul 24, 2018

NineConsonants said:
People were swarming over the story about the throttling. I wonder why this is barely getting attention...

Yup, I was kind of surprised this went to the second page so fast.

This is great news though. I decided to stick with my 2016 MacBook Pro but I might reconsider.

NineConsonants · Jul 24, 2018

entremet said:
Apple worked directly with one of the YT fix this. I would call this a success from consumer advocacy POV.

I mean this thread is barely getting attention.

devSin · Jul 24, 2018

NineConsonants said:
People were swarming over the story about the throttling. I wonder why this is barely getting attention...

You know why.

Dredge Space said:
Wont these laptops melt/burn people now?

No, the throttling had nothing to do with heat; it was caused by a firmware inconsistency that led to unusual behavior under certain workloads.

Dorothy Gale · Jul 24, 2018

So I won't feel ripped off when getting the $2,500 15" MBP 512GB? I might purchase one today with Beats headphones.

signal · Jul 24, 2018

NineConsonants said:
People were swarming over the story about the throttling. I wonder why this is barely getting attention...

I guess some conspiracy or apple hatred force is being implied here but in general there is much more to comment on when a product is released with problems than when a product is fixed and performing as it should.

NineConsonants · Jul 24, 2018

signal said:
I guess some conspiracy or apple hatred force is being implied here but in general there is much more to comment on when a product is released with problems than when a product is fixed and performing as it should.

Uhhh slow down there.

smurfx · Jul 24, 2018

NineConsonants said:
People were swarming over the story about the throttling. I wonder why this is barely getting attention...

people should be down on apple on their god awful quality control. this shouldn't have ever happened. why would they kiss apple's ass when people like you will do it even when they screw up.

hibikase · Jul 24, 2018

So it wasn't because of insufficient heat dissipation after all? Or are they just going to be ridiculously too warm all the time?

I'm not convinced this is an entirely solved issue.

NineConsonants · Jul 24, 2018

smurfx said:
people should be down on apple on their god awful quality control. this shouldn't have ever happened. why would they kiss apple's ass when people like you will do it even when they screw up.

Who asked to kiss their asses?

Freestyler · Jul 24, 2018

This is surprisingly fast from Apple. I'm impressed. I don't think they've ever rushed out an update so quickly for any of their products.

DekuBleep · Jul 24, 2018

There is nothing left to talk about. It's fixed.

X05 · Jul 24, 2018

DekuBleep said:
Yeah apparently it was a software bug.

Even Dave Lee tweeted about the improvement.

https://twitter.com/dave2dtv/status/1021817313555755009?s=21

Nah, it's more than just a software bug.
It looks like it's no longer as awful as it was before, but looking at the screenshot Dave2D posted, that's still performing below the i9's base clocks and the CPU is hitting 92C

Waaghals · Jul 24, 2018

Looks like they changed max boost wattage from 125w to 100w and max sustained wattage from 100W to 50W.
If you are playing demanding games in Boot Camp you might want to limit power draw to about 35W in Intel Extreme Tuning Utility.

Otherwise there is not enough heat dissipation to run both the GPU and the CPU. You will still see steady clocks in the 3.6Ghz range.

Deleted member 21709 · Jul 24, 2018

I'm cautiously hyped. Hopefully it was really a bug and the machines are built to handle the heat.

Deleted member 21709 · Jul 24, 2018

Dorothy Gale said:
So I won't feel ripped off when getting the $2,500 15" MBP 512GB? I might purchase one today with Beats headphones.

Student discount? Doesn't that setup start at $3,099?

Mortemis · Jul 24, 2018

Gonna wait on full results, but if all it took was a bug fix, guess I'm now eyeing an upgrade.

Ingueferroque said:
Student discount? Doesn't that setup start at 3,099?

yeah, student discount. Without it the cost is $2599, not $3099 though.

NineConsonants · Jul 24, 2018

X05 said:
Nah, it's more than just a software bug.
It looks like it's no longer as awful as it was before, but looking at the screenshot Dave2D posted, that's still performing below the i9's base clocks and the CPU is hitting 92C

Is the GPU under load?

maximumzero · Jul 24, 2018

So yet again people get all bent out of shape over something that's fairly quickly fixed.

Enzom21 · Jul 24, 2018

maximumzero said:
So yet again people get all bent out of shape over something that's fairly quickly fixed.

It's an Apple product, it doesn't take much to get people riled up.

x3sphere · Jul 24, 2018

maximumzero said:
So yet again people get all bent out of shape over something that's fairly quickly fixed.

I would bet it only got fixed quickly because there was so much outrage about it.

-Pyromaniac- · Jul 24, 2018

All the fucking bitching and conspiracy theories and it was just a bug lol that they fixed immediately. smh. internet.

PhoncipleBone · Jul 24, 2018

entremet said:
Apple worked directly with one of the YT fix this. I would call this a success from consumer advocacy POV.

But I was lead to believe Cupertino hated you tubers.

itchi · Jul 24, 2018

So it's just not going to throttle at 100C and get even hotter?

Replicant · Jul 24, 2018

Looks like Apple got caught again limiting their hardware due to overheating concerned and "fixed" the issue when enough people bitched

KHarvey16 · Jul 24, 2018

Replicant said:
Looks like Apple got caught again limiting their hardware due to overheating concerned and "fixed" the issue when enough people bitched

And by looks like you mean "I made up a thing."

Replicant · Jul 24, 2018

KHarvey16 said:
And by looks like you mean "I made up a thing."

Yeah, because Apple doesn't have a history of doing just what I described.

KHarvey16 · Jul 24, 2018

Replicant said:
Yeah, because Apple doesn't have a history of doing just what I described.

Lying about fixing bugs? They never claimed throttling in iPhones due to battery health was a bug.

Replicant · Jul 24, 2018

KHarvey16 said:
Lying about fixing bugs? They never claimed throttling in iPhones due to battery health was a bug.

It's early enough for them to call it a bug. There's just simply no way Apple didn't notice their high end laptops throttled so badly before they shipped.

KHarvey16 · Jul 24, 2018

Replicant said:
It's early enough for them to call it a bug. There's just simply no way Apple didn't notice their high end laptops throttled so badly before they shipped.

So you made it up.

Replicant · Jul 24, 2018

KHarvey16 said:
So you made it up.

So you are dense? Did I claim with a source? No, I'm expressing my opinion.

Enzom21 · Jul 24, 2018

Replicant said:
So you are dense? Did I claim with a source? No, I'm expressing my opinion.

How very Trumpian of you.

KHarvey16 · Jul 24, 2018

Replicant said:
So you are dense? Did I claim with a source? No, I'm expressing my opinion.

You made a claim that was false.

DSP · Jul 24, 2018

DekuBleep said:
Yeah apparently it was a software bug.

Even Dave Lee tweeted about the improvement.

https://twitter.com/dave2dtv/status/1021817313555755009?s=21

92C though. I want to see some before/after comparisons. In this summer, it's hell to use a laptop like that.

That's running too hot for a brand new laptop.

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