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kuroneko0509 · Jul 24, 2018

finally done with all 8 chara stories. took quite a while to finish it since had some eye problem last week. went with therion/alfyn/ophilia/tressa for main party then switch to other 4 after done with them

therion ch 3 > h'aanit ch 4 > other 3 charas (in secondary party ) ch4 > main 4 ch 4 >> rest

therion ch 3 boss caused me some problem with the skill spam, probably had a bad rng in 1st try. h'aanit ch 4 is due to low level, where aoe instantly kills h'aanit due to low hp even with buff/debuff. hp accessory solved the problem tho. status ailments spam in some boss made me realized I rely too much on alfyn to clear it using his conc lol

not sure when to start on clearing side quests/doing postgame, maybe this weekend

Hecht · Jul 24, 2018

LordGorchnik said:
Only four more characters Chapter 4 stories to complete. Almost there....

Also chapter 4 spoilers in general.

Please tell me someone out there has saved all the amazing "FIN" screens they show and uploaded them somewhere? I missed like 4 of them and I really want them badly for desktop use.

Scar said:
Damn. Should have done that too!

I got you

https://twitter.com/Hecht_ERA_

donkey · Jul 24, 2018

Firemind said:
How much damage does that Dreadwolf do?

Here ya go!

Firemind · Jul 24, 2018

donkey show said:
Here ya go!

Mother of god

Where can I farm one?

Holundrian · Jul 24, 2018

My tip for anyone being very annoyed about having to repeat a certain thing for the last challenge of the game I recommend a runelord setup you can auto attack your way extremely fast through what follows before that way. After only 2 rounds of setups you can do like between 60k and 240k+ dmg a turn (depending on patience and second serving procs).

donkey · Jul 24, 2018

Firemind said:
Mother of god

Where can I farm one?

At the Maw of the Ice Dragon near Northreach. It's intially a boss, but becomes a rare spawn after you beat it the first time.

It's taken between 5 - 15 minutes to catch one with my level 65 - 70 H'annit, so pray RNGesus is on your side. XD

Firemind · Jul 24, 2018

Holundrian said:
My tip for anyone being very annoyed about having to repeat a certain thing for the last challenge of the game I recommend a runelord setup you can auto attack your way extremely fast through what follows before that way. After only 2 rounds of setups you can do like between 60k and 240k+ dmg a turn (depending on patience and second serving procs).

For the first part or the second part? Because I've heard the second part is more difficult so I'm planning on using all my underleveled characters for the first part and hopefully scraping by haha.

donkey show said:
At the Maw of the Ice Dragon near Northreach. It's intially a boss, but becomes a rare spawn after you beat it the first time.

It's taken between 5 - 15 minutes to catch one with my level 65 - 70 H'annit, so pray RNGesus is on your side. XD

Thanks!

Funny it's called the Maw of the Ice Dragon but the boss isn't a dragon haha

03sho · Jul 24, 2018

What does 'remember battle cursor position' option do in the settings? I've had it on and off and haven't noticed anything different?

Hecht · Jul 24, 2018

03sho said:
What does 'remember battle cursor position' option do in the settings? I've had it on and off and haven't noticed anything different?

When your next turn comes up it'll remember the last action you chose and place the cursor there automatically, instead of always starting on "Attack."

Heropon_ · Jul 24, 2018

srtrestre said:
Found this. Prolly shared a thousand times already, but decided to post it for those like me who hadn't seen it yet :P

I'm using it as my iPad's wallpaper now.

Can't find this in 2960x1440 resolution...

Tragicomedy · Jul 24, 2018

Looking for sub job advice. I started with Therion and actually like him enough to want him in my main party.

Current setup I'm aiming for is:
Therion: Thief/Hunter
Olberic: Warrior/Apothecary
Cyrus: Scholar/Merchant(?)
Ophilia: Cleric/Dancer(?)

The first two are already setup, headed to unlock the other sub jobs now. Any glaring holes? I've seen a lot of discussion about using Tressa and Primrose. Would Primrose work better with a cleric sub instead of Ophilia, or is that mainly interchangeable?

Also, seeing a lot of talk about using Hunter and Warrior as respective sub jobs for the other. Is Olberic better with Hunter and then swapping my Therion to Merchant?

Basically, I'm reading all this talk of massive synergies and crazy invulnerability builds, 100x experience buffs, and I'm not seeing how to build towards that. Currently at 28-30 level range and finalizing chapter 2s. I'll only play through once and prefer to over grind in these types of games.

Holundrian · Jul 24, 2018

Firemind said:
For the first part or the second part? Because I've heard the second part is more difficult so I'm planning on using all my underleveled characters for the first part and hopefully scraping by haha.

For the boss gauntlet part for the actual boss you probably reconfigure cause while runelord setups have really high damage per turn without tweaks they're probably not durable enough. Used this setup just to go through the gauntlet in like around ~5-7 minutes

Firemind · Jul 24, 2018

Holundrian said:
For the boss gauntlet part for the actual boss you probably reconfigure cause while runelord setups have really high damage per turn without tweaks they're probably not durable enough. Used this setup just to go through the gauntlet in like around ~5-7 minutes

But you can only use each job once, right? Or is it possible to reconfigure inbetween?

Freezasaurus · Jul 24, 2018

Tragicomedy said:
The first two are already setup, headed to unlock the other sub jobs now. Any glaring holes? I've seen a lot of discussion about using Tressa and Primrose. Would Primrose work better with a cleric sub instead of Ophilia, or is that mainly interchangeable?

Prim is my main character, but I have her set up as a Cleric even with Ophelia in the party. I figure two healers is a good idea just in case. Since Ophelia is already a good mage due to her stats, I have her subjob set to Scholar so she can focus on offense while Prim handles the main healing duties.

Holundrian · Jul 24, 2018

Firemind said:
But you can only use each job once, right? Or is it possible to reconfigure inbetween?

The runelord setup only relies on transfer rune and using the rune that the enemy is weak to. So that means it relies entirely on the rune group enchantment.
What makes it so potent is a very short setup transfer rune -> rune element. So basically 2 rounds. And you get reliable 20k on broken enemies per hit as well breaking them really fast cause you get per hit -2 breaks(from the weapon and then from the element) which depending on luck from patience and second serving can make enemies break really quick oh the dmg on non broken tends to be 10k as well. All the dmg from the runelord setup is depending on any characters elemental attack stat nothing else (so you can forego stuff like boost bp, etc you just slot in surpassing power have high elemental from gear, this creates space for second serving and patience which raise dmg by raising the chance of additional auto attacks).

Bwooduhs · Jul 24, 2018

Quick question for people further in to the game, does adding a job to a character add to the skills they already have or replace them?

I'm playing mostly blind and I've just started finding jobs.

Tailzo · Jul 24, 2018

I finished Olberics story. Everyone else is chapter 1. I really need some help with a sidequest you can only do after finishing Olberics story. It involves a npc named «Bale». I've watched youtube and read guides, but he is not where everyone else finds him.

Please help me :)

Freezasaurus · Jul 24, 2018

Bwooduhs said:
Quick question for people further in to the game, does adding a job to a character add to the skills they already have or replace them?

I'm playing mostly blind and I've just started finding jobs.

They'll always have access to the skills from their main job, but they only have access to the sub-job skills for the one they currently have equipped.

Totakeke · Jul 24, 2018

I like how most bosses either only concentrate on physical or elemental damage so you can spec gear and skills for it.

AquaRegia · Jul 24, 2018

Bwooduhs said:
Quick question for people further in to the game, does adding a job to a character add to the skills they already have or replace them?

I'm playing mostly blind and I've just started finding jobs.

Second job is replaced, but the support skills stay unlocked.

Nav · Jul 24, 2018

It took me around four hours to do the final gauntlet including gear and party setup, all party in the 50's. Beat the first half of final boss, then immediately wiped to the second half. RIP my time...

I decided to skip it. I enjoy a challenge where I can try again immediately. It reminds me of how much my life improved between FE Conquest and Shadows of Valentia with Mila's Turnwheel; in the former, I could lose hours of progress to a mistake on a long lunatic map.

Being challenging is one thing. But to me, the lack of QoL in this final dungeon is just unfun. I can't even temporarily bookmark my progress to fire something else up on Switch, let alone permanently save to make it more enjoyable. Optional QoL features would have improved this a lot. Still, loved my time with the game...but for now, I'm out.

LordGorchnik · Jul 24, 2018

Hecht said:
I have them all saved on my Switch. Probably should upload them at some point...

Yes please and PM them to me. I really need them haha!

EDIT: NM you got em.

Firemind · Jul 24, 2018

Holundrian said:
The runelord setup only relies on transfer rune and using the rune that the enemy is weak to. So that means it relies entirely on the rune group enchantment.
What makes it so potent is a very short setup transfer rune -> rune element. So basically 2 rounds. And you get reliable 20k on broken enemies per hit as well breaking them really fast cause you get per hit -2 breaks(from the weapon and then from the element) which depending on luck from patience and second serving can make enemies break really quick oh the dmg on non broken tends to be 10k as well. All the dmg from the runelord setup is depending on any characters elemental attack stat nothing else (so you can forego stuff like boost bp, etc you just slot in surpassing power have high elemental from gear, this creates space for second serving and patience which raise dmg by raising the chance of additional auto attacks).

That didn't really answer my question haha. I'm aware the runelord has a high damage output but I'd rather save it for the second part. The first part also seems like it'd be time consuming though. Hm. Decisions.

Katana_Strikes · Jul 24, 2018

Nav said:
It took me around four hours to do the final gauntlet including gear and party setup, all party in the 50's. Beat the first half of final boss, then immediately wiped to the second half. RIP my time...

I decided to skip it. I enjoy a challenge where I can try again immediately. It reminds me of how much my life improved between FE Conquest and Shadows of Valentia with Mila's Turnwheel; in the former, I could lose hours of progress to a mistake on a long lunatic map.

Being challenging is one thing. But to me, the lack of QoL in this final dungeon is just unfun. I can't even temporarily bookmark my progress to fire something else up on Switch, let alone permanently save to make it more enjoyable. Optional QoL features would have improved this a lot. Still, loved my time with the game...but for now, I'm out.

Yeah that bit is disappointing tbh because it takes too damn long to get to that point only to fail and you have to repeat it all again. I can see they wanted it as an ultimate challenge but it pushes that too much and I think in the end it's a bad design design.

Orcastar · Jul 24, 2018

What the fuck is this "Character slipped and fell" bullshit I'm seeing in areas with higher danger levels? A mechanic to artificially prevent me from killing higher level enemies that I would otherwise be fully capable of handling? I've seen nonsense like this in MMOs, but I didn't expect to see it in a traditional JRPG...

Totakeke · Jul 24, 2018

Orcastar said:
What the fuck is this "Character slipped and fell" bullshit I'm seeing in areas with higher danger levels? A mechanic to artificially prevent me from killing higher level enemies that I would otherwise be fully capable of handling? I've seen nonsense like this in MMOs, but I didn't expect to see it in a traditional JRPG...

Pretty sure that's only because you failed to flee.

KtotheRoc · Jul 24, 2018

Finished my first chapter 2. Therion.

(Primrose is my main character.)

Call me YHWH · Jul 24, 2018

Orcastar said:
What the fuck is this "Character slipped and fell" bullshit I'm seeing in areas with higher danger levels? A mechanic to artificially prevent me from killing higher level enemies that I would otherwise be fully capable of handling? I've seen nonsense like this in MMOs, but I didn't expect to see it in a traditional JRPG...

That's the failed to flee error message.

Nav · Jul 24, 2018

Firemind said:
That didn't really answer my question haha. I'm aware the runelord has a high damage output but I'd rather save it for the second part. The first part also seems like it'd be time consuming though. Hm. Decisions.

Hint from someone who just wiped:

The first fight is more elemental and the second more physical. A good Sorcerer will go a long way in the first part. For the second part, Sidestep + Transfer Rune seems good. Also, at my level - mid 50's - Saving Grace + Apothecary divine seemed pretty essential to avoid AOE wipes.

Good luck Niv!

Tsosie · Jul 24, 2018

Orcastar said:
What the fuck is this "Character slipped and fell" bullshit I'm seeing in areas with higher danger levels? A mechanic to artificially prevent me from killing higher level enemies that I would otherwise be fully capable of handling? I've seen nonsense like this in MMOs, but I didn't expect to see it in a traditional JRPG...

I have only ever seen that from fleeing. When I am grinding high level monsters and I get a mob set-up that I do not like I used to flee. But watching an entire party slip after a failed flee is usually not worth it anymore.

crazillo · Jul 24, 2018

Beat my first chapter 4 with Cyrus. Not much time for me to play games in the coming days, but I'll surely come back and finish all of the stories. Some of them really picked up during the journey, so I hope this level can be kept. Probably gonna find those

secret jobs

first though. After about 40 hours, I still have fun with the game, and I hope the stories finish up nicely, but I can't play it for that much longer, even with the battle system being so excellent and versatile. There seems to be this 40-50 hour benchmark where, unless it's Skyrim or Witcher, I'm quite happy to slowly see things wrapping up. I guess there will be optional stuff to do, but I am not sure to what extent it will still be worth it. Anyone else feeling similair about RPGs these days?

Overall this has been one hell of a good experience though. Totally recommended game!

QisTopTier · Jul 24, 2018

I'll just say it, this is for sure the best JRPG I've played since shadow hearts 2

Nav · Jul 24, 2018

Katana_Strikes said:
Yeah that bit is disappointing tbh because it takes too damn long to get to that point only to fail and you have to repeat it all again. I can see they wanted it as an ultimate challenge but it pushes that too much and I think in the end it's a bad design design.

I kinda feel the same. But I can accept that this part of the game isn't made for me. In most RPGs I stop at credits, not doing much postgame. I think the lack of a overarching story made me want to do this boss for a sense of finality, though, even if I was probably underleveled and should have finished all the other postgame dungeons and side content first. I just wish my level gains saved, or my party configuration...something...so I didn't feel like I had just wasted so much time.

Hecht · Jul 24, 2018

Orcastar said:
What the fuck is this "Character slipped and fell" bullshit I'm seeing in areas with higher danger levels? A mechanic to artificially prevent me from killing higher level enemies that I would otherwise be fully capable of handling? I've seen nonsense like this in MMOs, but I didn't expect to see it in a traditional JRPG...

If you have a character attempt to flee and it fails, everyone else that turn "slips and falls." Which is why if you are worried about fleeing and getting hit, you should probably flee on your last party member's turn that round.

Orcastar · Jul 24, 2018

Totakeke said:
Pretty sure that's only because you failed to flee.

Call me YHWH said:
That's the failed to flee error message.

Tsosie said:
I have only ever seen that from fleeing. When I am grinding high level monsters and I get a mob set-up that I do not like I used to flee. But watching an entire party slip after a failed flee is usually not worth it anymore.

Well now I feel like an idiot.

It's still a stupid mechanic though.

Firemind · Jul 24, 2018

Nav said:
Hint from someone who just wiped:

The first fight is more elemental and the second more physical. A good Sorcerer will go a long way in the first part. For the second part, Sidestep + Transfer Rune seems good. Also, at my level - mid 50's - Saving Grace + Apothecary divine seemed pretty essential to avoid AOE wipes.

Good luck Niv!

Sounds like a challenge to make Olberic into the Ultimate Tank!

Holundrian · Jul 24, 2018

Firemind said:
That didn't really answer my question haha. I'm aware the runelord has a high damage output but I'd rather save it for the second part. The first part also seems like it'd be time consuming though. Hm. Decisions.

I'm confused then I already said for what part you use this setup for. Why do you say for the second part? You can switch out parties any time. I already said for the real final boss you would reconfigure. This setup is just very fast and efficient in getting there to begin with. I explained how the setup works cause you asked weirdly about how you can only use each job once but that isn't an issue really?

Holundrian said:
For the boss gauntlet part for the actual boss you probably reconfigure cause while runelord setups have really high damage per turn without tweaks they're probably not durable enough. Used this setup just to go through the gauntlet in like around ~5-7 minutes

Nav · Jul 24, 2018

Firemind said:
Sounds like a challenge to make Olberic into the Ultimate Tank!

His blade is unbending...!

I may try again after a fair bit more grinding and gear search.

tiebreaker · Jul 24, 2018

Done with almost all chapter 3s. So far Tressa is still the best, and Ophilia is still the worst.

beetlebum · Jul 24, 2018

Tragicomedy said:
Looking for sub job advice. I started with Therion and actually like him enough to want him in my main party.

Current setup I'm aiming for is:
Therion: Thief/Hunter
Olberic: Warrior/Apothecary
Cyrus: Scholar/Merchant(?)
Ophilia: Cleric/Dancer(?)

I decided to make Therion an acquisition all-star, so I made him a merchant. Works wonders with that thief skill that allows you to double whatever you steal/collect.

jorgejjvr · Jul 24, 2018

This games makes me want Bravely 1-2 on Switch, and bravely third.

Disclaimer · Jul 24, 2018

Tailzo said:
I finished Olberics story. Everyone else is chapter 1. I really need some help with a sidequest you can only do after finishing Olberics story. It involves a npc named «Bale». I've watched youtube and read guides, but he is not where everyone else finds him.

Please help me :)

You need to complete both his and Ophilia's stories to access that quest.

Kindekuma · Jul 24, 2018

I'm getting really bizarre RNG luck when it comes to stealing from NPCs. 15% or lower I tend to get first or second try. However 65% I can fail again, and again, and again, and again.

beetlebum · Jul 24, 2018

jorgejjvr said:
This games makes me want Bravely 1-2 on Switch, and bravely third.

A Bravely Third would be awesome, but they better cut the recycling crap and give us new locations already. I couldn't believe the amount of reused content in Bravely Second (which was mainly the reason why it was a much less engrossing experience than the first game for me).

Valus · Jul 24, 2018

beetlebum said:
A Bravely Third would be awesome, but they better cut the recycling crap and give us new locations already. I couldn't believe the amount of reused content in Bravely Second (which was mainly the reason why it was a much less engrossing experience than the first game for me).

Not sure why people want a Bravely Third after the lackluster sequel. Even the first game had the bullshit repeat stuff. I think the bravely series has some magic but it's missing a lot to warrant another entry imo.

beetlebum · Jul 24, 2018

Valus said:
Not sure why people want a Bravely Third after the lackluster sequel. Even the first game had the bullshit repeat stuff. I think the bravely series has some magic but it's missing a lot to warrant another entry imo.

The repetition in the first game was definitely an odd design choice, but since it ties so neatly to the story's "a-ha" moment that I forgave it afterwards.

Bravely Second, though, is still a bitter pill to swallow to this day. I guess I want a Bravely Third because I do love the game's mechanics and conventions (the Mega Man-esque way to unlock a job is awesome), but it would definitely have to feature an entirely different setting.

Also, the team's work on Octopath made me confident that they can knock it out of the park.

Holundrian · Jul 24, 2018

Valus said:
Not sure why people want a Bravely Third after the lackluster sequel. Even the first game had the bullshit repeat stuff. I think the bravely series has some magic but it's missing a lot to warrant another entry imo.

Because second was a budget sequel what people want from bravely third is an evolution on the concept and revo back not just a remix of stuff. Also Second left a hook for third.

Firemind · Jul 24, 2018

Holundrian said:
I'm confused then I already said for what part you use this setup for. Why do you say for the second part? You can switch out parties any time. I already said for the real final boss you would reconfigure. This setup is just very fast and efficient in getting there to begin with. I explained how the setup works cause you asked weirdly about how you can only use each job once but that isn't an issue really?

People have said you need to use all 8 characters. That part I'm confused with. That surely means you can't use a character twice. Sure, you can use runelord in both battles but it matters quite a bit whether you use it on a lvl. 40 character or a lvl. 60 character. That's what I'm undecided about.

RDreamer · Jul 24, 2018

beetlebum said:
The repetition in the first game was definitely an odd design choice, but since it ties so neatly to the story's "a-ha" moment that I forgave it afterwards.

Bravely Second, though, is still a bitter pill to swallow to this day. I guess I want a Bravely Third because I do love the game's mechanics and conventions (the Mega Man-esque way to unlock a job is awesome), but it would definitely have to feature an entirely different setting.

Also, the team's work on Octopath made me confident that they can knock it out of the park.

Octopath is basically everything I wanted out of the Bravely series. It has beautiful environments, good music, and a great battle system. Bravely unfortunately had that but bundled it with some of the absolute most aggravating story and writing I've ever had the displeasure of witnessing. There was something supremely off-putting about the story in the first two Bravely games that I can't really put into words.

If they actually do a Bravely Third I'd want them to nuke everything about the world and characters and start anew.

Holundrian · Jul 24, 2018

Firemind said:
People have said you need to use all 8 characters. That part I'm confused with. That surely means you can't use a character twice. Sure, you can use runelord in both battles but it matters quite a bit whether you use it on a lvl. 40 character or a lvl. 60 character. That's what I'm undecided about.

Oh I thought you knew about the thing. Here is how it works.

The last challenge makes you go into a place where you can interact with crystals that will trigger a story boss fight of each character. After doing 8 of those you go to the last boss which has 2 phases. The boss gauntlet you have free reign of managing your setup before each fight. The last boss gives you a chance to setup your two parties and setup right before it. So it doesn't really matter what you run during the gauntlet since you're not really stuck to it for the last boss. The thing is the whole thing doesn't allow saving so if you fail at the very last phase you have to do the gauntlet again, hence the setup I suggested cause it makes that part very fast to power through.

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