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Trump hits highest job approval in latest quarter: Gallup
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Is it getting stronger? I think if you were to ask a black gay woman if she'd rather live last century or this century, she would choose this century.
You perceive it to be getting stronger because digital communicaton allows anyone to stand on their soap box and reach more ears. Also you instantly hear incidents through rapid fire news now so it seems things are getting worse. The only thing that has changed under Trump is that those who already had racist views are more comfortable airing them.
If you don't think Hillary wins if the election were held today no one can help you. Trump's base has done nothing but shrink since then and Democrats are much more involved.
Cynicism sucks in general but ignorant cynicism is just sad.
While considering how inept and incompetent Trump is 40% is extremely high, historically it is an incredibly pathetic number and a testament to how reviled and divisive he is. Using this as some kind of proof that he is certain to be re-elected seems suspect.
Even if it is, Trump would certainly like to end term limits, he has already let that slip multiple times. His idea of a dream government is a fascist dictatorship with him in charge.
The consequences of terrible policy have shown to have zero effect on the reasoning power of the Republican base. What makes you think the spike in health care rates will matter?
She absolutely wouldn't win if there was an election right now, not a chance in hell.
Against Trump? Are you joking?
The problem is some of you are straight up ignoring reality to further your own weird fantasies. Trump won by 70k votes in key areas. He wouldn't now and it's obvious.
So you think he's polling well in those swing States?
North Carolina for example Trump has a 43% approval and 50% disapproval. Compared to the denocratic governor at 49% approve and 29% disapprove.
http://spectrumlocalnews.com/nc/cha...ll-general-assembly-trump-roy-cooper-nc-house
This was in May but it's the most recent I've found.
Yep. Here in Ontario, NDP had an excellent platform but Doug Ford promised tax cuts and he won.
Because the attempt to destroy Obamacare has demonstrably affected the special elections and primaries heavily in the Dems favor for a year straight now and consistently polls as the most important issue for voters.
The republican base alone isn't big enough to win a presidential election anymore.
Its just plain and simple reality. Foreign policy (most people can't even point to China let along North Korea or Iran on a map), smaller minority groups while get vocal support, when it comes down to it, people vote for who they think will keep their wallets full. There are a few exceptions to this, but not many.
We aren't in a all out war. The economy is strong, unemployment is low, and housing prices are up. That is going to get alot of support no matter how you slice it.
And another problem is people telling us up and down with all their arm chair political know how that he can't possibly win just like you all did in 2016, and look how that turned out.
With Hillary though she's just too tainted, she would never win now.
Someone else has a chance, sure, but promising trump will lose is just repeating past mistakes.
Yeah. The wife and I were thinking of having our first child next year but I honestly don't know if I want to bring another human life into this world.
Thinking Hillary would win today is a comically sadder level of delusion. This idea that Trump's base is shrinking can be supported by what evidence? Polls? Of the same people on CNN who express disappointment with Trump while adding that they'll still vote for him again? It's not cynicism to acknowledge the change in America that I'm witnessing. A lot of people like Trump. Josh Hader just got a standing ovation in Milwaukee for being a racist and homophobe.
Are you fucking kidding me?
"Oh, the predictions were off in 2016, therefore all polling and analysis going forward is useless!"
People are still saying that bullshit even after all this time?
And people still heavily shit on Hillary for "being so pathetic that she lost to someone like Trump" as evidence of how terrible of a candidate she was.
When the hell will the populace get the blame? This latest job approval poll proves there is little rationality, decency, or logic out there.
When the hell will the populace get the blame? This latest job approval poll proves there is little rationality, decency, or logic out there.
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I just know that trusting polls and analysis after 2016 is not a bright idea.
"But many predicted she'd win the popular vote and she did" some will cry, "so those polls were accurate from a certain point of view!"
And you know what else those same analysts predicted, that Hillary would be president.
Polls and analysts are worthless, just vote.
This is completely illogical. You are being intellectually dishonest at best.
We are fucked until we abandon this belief that voting will change what Trump's rise is symptomatic of.
Trump's "base" is absolutely shrinking. We know it's snaller now than it was during the election.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trumps-base-is-shrinking/amp/
Have either of you been paying any attention at all to how democrats are performing in red areas?
Again: trump won because of 70k votes in key areas. All evidence we have points to that not happening now. Not just polls but elections.
Saying Trump would definitely win any election ever again is a statement of faith that contradicts all evidence. Saying Clinton would beat Trump today is supported by every piece of data available to us. You're both being ridiculous.
I basically refreshed 538's site on a daily basis, I read all the articles with their in depth analysis on how things would be fine and I was assured by everyone on the old site that no, there's no way he can win, the blue firewall will save her, Florida will save her, it's totally fine, no need to worry.
Never again.
Republicans in Congress lost seats in 2016 even with Trump winning. Their success or failure is pretty disconnected from one another.
Are you kidding me? Did you really read 538 a lot leading up to the election, or did you only read articles linked by gaffers talking about Clinton's advantages? Because 538 had multiple articles just days before the election stressing that Clinton may be the favorite, but Trump still had a decent chance to win.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...the-polls-clinton-leads-but-its-a-close-race/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-just-a-normal-polling-error-behind-clinton/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-why-clintons-position-is-worse-than-obamas/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trumps-chances-of-victory-have-doubled-in-the-last-two-weeks/
It isn't 2020 yet and we aren't in election season, so I dismiss polls at this point. The news cycle has moved a mile a minute under Trump. 2020 might as well be a century away.
I'll say it again- dismiss Trump's reelection chances at your own peril. The dude is a campaigner and the Democrats, with the wrong candidate, will lose to him again. He's locked in a plurality of angry white voters.
Dumb would be repeating the same stupid mistake hoping for a different outcome.
All of the analysis in the world couldn't account for a literal international conspiracy and the Director of the FBI suicide bombing the Clinton campaign days before the election. And the polls were still right at the end of the day.
I wouldn't be surprised if he wins in November. The algorithms I have access too that scrape and count searches and what not confirmed Trump would win the election back in 2016 and the evidence is ever mounting a win in November too, the algorithm knows. I was so confident that he was going to win based on the data it spits out that I dumped 90% of my portfolio into Goldman Sachs and US Steel stock at the time, pretty much doubled my money in just a short few months after election time.
2020 is likely to go his way also, the forces that won him the election have only gotten stronger since the election.
2020 is likely to go his way also, the forces that won him the election have only gotten stronger since the election.
I did, and they still remained confident how the election would unfold right up until the moment it didn't.
I don't think it is and for my own personal sanity I'd rather not buy into polls and analysts promising an outcome that ultimately doesn't happen.
That's just my stance of course, feel free to accept polls or whatever, i'm not arguing they should be banned and I'll try and stay out of the 2020 threads concerning these topics.
If someone says something is unlikely to happen and then it happens, were they wrong?
So in other words there's nothing to handwring about when news breaks that his poll numbers are slightly up. We won't know what his actual support is until election season so there is no reason to speculate or be concerned about it.
I remember meeting Americans abroad that got very angry with me when I suggested that he might get nominated.
Or maybe vast oversimplification in service of comfortable presumptions.
You do know how probability works right, those results are based on highest probabilities not facts. Even if something has a 90% chance of happening there's a 1 in 10 chance it doesn't. Human beings have not become so omniscient that they can predict things like this with absolute probability.
But the polls provided valuable information in 2017. They showed Roy Moore was in trouble. They showed Conor Lamb was putting up a dangerous challenge. They were right and in same cases (Virginia) underestimated Democrats just as they underestimated Republicans in 2016. You need to wake up to reality.
The reality is this, most people don't care about Russia
I hope the democrats realize there are other issues that are important to the people of this country
I hope the democrats realize there are other issues that are important to the people of this country