If I were a ghost, I'd haunt the shit out of Trump. Some straight up satanic poltergeist shit.
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My house is haunted
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My cat panics when I turn on my microwave, and gets spooked by his own tail. A dog taking qualms with black mold sounds fairly ordinary.
My cat freaks his shit when he sees black clothing hanging on our doors at night. Coats and/or boots positioned in a way that looks like a bulky figure, standing ominously at the end of the hall.
He seizes up, arches his back, his fur fluffs up, and his eyes go wide in horror.
His terror is real, but the shadowy invaders are not. Animal senses are not infallible. If there's something that could look like a person in the dark, it's not crazy to imagine your pets might also see the same illusion, and react accordingly.
This thread is filled with strange skepticism boasting.
I'm a largely skeptical individual, but I also enjoy interesting stories and mysteries, and the OP's stories, as well as others shared on this thread are definitely interesting events that (regardless of cause) are happening to real people, that I'd rather read and enjoy without scrolling through arrogance and self-importance.
People sharing these stories don't need a series of condescending preachings and sermons about the almighty power of not believing, they just want to talk about what's happening to them and we can help by suggesting investigative measures. You are definitely ruining it for the rest of us, who might not necessarily believe in ghosts, but like to be open and interested in things we find unlikely.
Once and if we get to the bottom of this and help the OP find the cause of this commotion, then you can all sleep at night knowing the world is still as boring as we all tought.
I'm a largely skeptical individual, but I also enjoy interesting stories and mysteries, and the OP's stories, as well as others shared on this thread are definitely interesting events that (regardless of cause) are happening to real people, that I'd rather read and enjoy without scrolling through arrogance and self-importance.
People sharing these stories don't need a series of condescending preachings and sermons about the almighty power of not believing, they just want to talk about what's happening to them and we can help by suggesting investigative measures. You are definitely ruining it for the rest of us, who might not necessarily believe in ghosts, but like to be open and interested in things we find unlikely.
Once and if we get to the bottom of this and help the OP find the cause of this commotion, then you can all sleep at night knowing the world is still as boring as we all tought.
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I find this forum too unforgiving when it comes to handling the logically unexplained. I would actually group religion in this category. I've recently become started to go to church again - and would like to engage in some discussion on this forum. But after seeing how I notice some posters here ridicule people who have some sort of religion, I'm quite hesitant.
It's unfair to ridicule people, but it's also important to point out how the supernatural or religion clash with reason, logic, and scientific thinking. And it's very important to foster scientific thinking.
I kinda didn't read most of the thread (I did read the whole OP), but in these cases, no one ever puts cameras up for some reason. Like, they refuse to because? It's easily solvable instead of "it's gotta be haunted because I went there and there was nothing there.". Not really directed at you alone OP, it's directed at everyone that thinks stuff is haunted.
Put up cameras, hell, even an old android/iPhone can be used as a security camera, in the most common hearings and happenings. I'd put one facing the light switch that comes on the most, one in your child's room, one in the attic etc. If you only have one camera then just put it in your attic as that seems the most suspicious.
I believe it's just common stuff, but if you want to make sure, then use cameras. If you see a light switch come on from being turned all the way off, I believe you.
Put up cameras, hell, even an old android/iPhone can be used as a security camera, in the most common hearings and happenings. I'd put one facing the light switch that comes on the most, one in your child's room, one in the attic etc. If you only have one camera then just put it in your attic as that seems the most suspicious.
I believe it's just common stuff, but if you want to make sure, then use cameras. If you see a light switch come on from being turned all the way off, I believe you.
The OP said he's getting all sorts of equipment including cameras for live-streaming for all of us ghost busters out here in the forum.
Not Christian myself but I'm 100% sure the hangout section has a Christian thread.
Is it ridicule or pointing out the truth?
Because having "has god been a blessing in your life?" said to you means you should just take it, but saying "god isnt real" is ridicule.
I think threads like this can be fun, but you do need to come at it from the angle of an adult and not someone who *wants* -- at the expense of their own reasoning and that of others -- these things to be true. Instead, think of it like a digital equivalent of campfire stories, and leave the personal interpretation of events at the door. If OP and others wish to believe in things that go bump in the night actually being apparitions from beyond, as silly as I think that is, I don't have to be rude about that experience, nor do I have to spend an inordinate amount of time trying to convince them that they're wrong and I'm right. Rather, it's the experience itself that is interesting, and you're allowed to interpret that however you like.
Here's an example: if someone relates an experience they had that is ghostly in nature, suspend your disbelief for the purpose of interaction and just ask about the possibilities. Don't worry about convincing, but create a sense of doubt about what that thing could be. If you give someone enough ideas about possible explanations, they'll do the rest of the work -- *if* they want to. No need to be condescending.
You're also free to completely believe in ghosts and while I think that's silly I see no reason to force anyone else in believing that. They aren't hurting anything -- quite the contrary, they're the ones giving us the best ghost stories.
This thread is entertainment whether you're a believer or not. The second you're not having fun with it, is the second you've lost the script. For reference, I'm an atheist and of course skeptic to the topic in a nearly hard-wired way, but I'll treat you with respect and accept that the experience is one you had and we can still respectfully disagree on the source of that experience, and even talk about that.
As an aside, I can't wait for OP to get his stream up and monetized. After all, if you gotta live with ghosts, might as well make them work a bit for it.
Here's an example: if someone relates an experience they had that is ghostly in nature, suspend your disbelief for the purpose of interaction and just ask about the possibilities. Don't worry about convincing, but create a sense of doubt about what that thing could be. If you give someone enough ideas about possible explanations, they'll do the rest of the work -- *if* they want to. No need to be condescending.
You're also free to completely believe in ghosts and while I think that's silly I see no reason to force anyone else in believing that. They aren't hurting anything -- quite the contrary, they're the ones giving us the best ghost stories.
This thread is entertainment whether you're a believer or not. The second you're not having fun with it, is the second you've lost the script. For reference, I'm an atheist and of course skeptic to the topic in a nearly hard-wired way, but I'll treat you with respect and accept that the experience is one you had and we can still respectfully disagree on the source of that experience, and even talk about that.
As an aside, I can't wait for OP to get his stream up and monetized. After all, if you gotta live with ghosts, might as well make them work a bit for it.
First of all how do you know that a living cat that goes invisible on bright light is on the same level as a ghost cat? If anything it's more plausible than a ghost cat because we at least have proof that living cats exist.
And no that's not how logic works. It's the middle of summer right now and if someone told me "it's going to snow tomorrow" I wouldn't believe them. I'm not saying that's it's impossible for there to be snow tomorrow. If you don't understand the difference between "I'm not convinced X is true" and "X is impossible" then there's nothing more to discuss, especially if you keep putting words in my mouth. Just because something hasn't proven to be impossible that doesn't mean it's possible, and vice verse. I never said ghosts are impossible, just that I have no reason to think they exist and neither do you if the ghost cat story is all you're basing your belief on.
OP i think you are disturbing them in the sense that they live there and your messing up their home.
I have had the same experience were me and some friends had a sleep over in a house and crazy shit starts happening, with doors, walls, stuff being thrown at us etc.
The worst thing that can happen is if they decide to retaliate because of what you did.
Either you get rid of them or they you. Or you live together.
Edit: Also ignore the majority of the post they wont believe until they experience it for themselves.
I have had the same experience were me and some friends had a sleep over in a house and crazy shit starts happening, with doors, walls, stuff being thrown at us etc.
The worst thing that can happen is if they decide to retaliate because of what you did.
Either you get rid of them or they you. Or you live together.
Edit: Also ignore the majority of the post they wont believe until they experience it for themselves.
I think the point is, the craziest idea rooted in the natural is always more realistic and plausible than the 'supernatural'.
..Because the supernatural has shown no evidence to existing.
Ghosts are simply the trend of the time. Ghosts aren't more likely than mischievous god, mischievous god simply went out of fashion in culture.
There were times when faeries were more suspect, gods, witches, gnomes probably. The reason you think ghosts is because there are all those paranormal activity movies and ghost hunter tv shows that everyone has been exposed to. How do you know its not the devil himself messing with you? Even among supernatural, if you're a believer in the bible, god, the devil, or possibly demons should be more plausible than ghosts right?
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As an atheist I don't blame you for being hesitant. I'm sure that you're aware that God cannot be scientifically proven, but that's what faith is. There always seems to be some edgelord who just has respond to another's religious beliefs despite the context of the situation, or how rude it might be. The only real reason I can imagine them doing so is so they feel intellectually superior to another to inflate their own ego. It's basically the "I am enlightened" meme.
There is a difference between ridicule and debate. Not all atheist respond to religious folks the same and not all Christians have the same beliefs. There is those that, for the most part, adhere to scientific facts and others that might try to tell you that the Earth is only a few thousand years old (which calls for a response given that conversation). Now, if a religious person is abusing their beliefs to justify their own intolerance, then yeah, fuck that person. I'll usually tell them that they are doing it wrong. Different situations demand different responses, but ridiculing somebody just based only on their belief in the existence of a higher power is a bit of a dick move, IMO.
Threads like these and some of the posters remind me why humanity is doomed: incredibly technologically and scientifically advanced and yet most people still believe in ghosts and other supernatural beings (including religion).
Wonder why ghosts are always just opening/closing doors and turning lights on and off. Why are they never sat there taking a shit or playing golf?
Wonder why ghosts are always just opening/closing doors and turning lights on and off. Why are they never sat there taking a shit or playing golf?
Ghosts can access electrical systems, but only specific ones. That's why they turn lights on and off, but don't, for example, turn on your Switch and play some Mario Tennis. Also, they're apparitions, so they can only affect the physical world by slamming doors or making footstep sounds, even though they don't have feet and hands. I mean, they have feet and hands when you catch them on camera or see them (or if your cat sees them, but you can't, which is another thing we know about ghosts), sort of, but not real feet or hands. Just ghostly limbs that only work on doors and sometimes windows. So they can make banging sounds and throw things about and "shove" you sometimes (it feels like a hypnagogic jerk, but it's not, I promise), but they have to train really hard to do it and take plenty of breaks. What else? Ah, yes, they don't want to be found, which is why we can't catch them or find conclusive proof, and it's why they don't communicate directly with us in the material realm, but at the same time they are keen japesters who like to prank us when we disturb their slumber. Just not too much, or we'd catch them. And if you're a ghost and you get caught, it's deeply shameful. You have to apologize to all the other ghosts.
I would watch the stream. At least we can help the OP found out whats going on.
Haha ahhh thanks for the explanation....! How come we don't see cavemen ghosts or velociraptor ghosts though? Or badger ghosts? I like badgers so wouldn't mind seeing one, should I leave out some tasty snacks for the badger ghost to show up or do they not even eat? Its all very confusing
I'm surprised the same people are still at it.
At least I got to watch a hilarious ghost video.
You think old Abe isn't? Why do you think most of his family doesn't wanna live in the White House?
Technically that's what the T-Rex became!
When ghosts are tired they go to sleep up your bottom, but sometimes they get startled and rush out, causing a trump.
In all seriousness, I really hope so.
Everyone, install a carbon monoxide detector where you live.
I believe in OP. I've heard so much stories in that regard.
The definitive factor was the 20C condo in Phoenix during summer. Ghost are "cold" so to say.
At least, they aren't malevolent youkai. (yes, I'm going to use that word and you can avatar quote me for all I care)
The definitive factor was the 20C condo in Phoenix during summer. Ghost are "cold" so to say.
At least, they aren't malevolent youkai. (yes, I'm going to use that word and you can avatar quote me for all I care)
Skeptic, non-believer, or what have you... That's not the point of all this.
Get in the spirit of the thing. Enjoy what the OP is giving us, and be human to a fault.
Also please install a carbon monoxide detector in your home.
Get in the spirit of the thing. Enjoy what the OP is giving us, and be human to a fault.
Also please install a carbon monoxide detector in your home.
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But we don't know that it was 20C. We know that it felt cold to the observer, but he said the thermostat read normal.
Which brings me to a major problem with how most skeptics address belief in ghosts: they tend to work backward from observed phenomena to try and find a materialist explanation. They rarely question the observed phenomena themselves, because they have priors about the brain being a rationalist tool and reliable observation device.
Meanwhile, the brain is actually a highly suggestible slushy bag of junk that can be easily primed—through tiredness, food and drink, narratives, childhood traumas, strange chemistry, mental illness, etc.—to experience things that are not actually there. For example, I'm a firm nonbeliever, but I'm about 5% more likely to believe in ghosts after I've read creepy things like the OP, and for about half an hour after browsing this thread, I find I focus more intently on odd noises, even though my "rational" brain can recognize this behavior and scoff at it.
Anyway, rationalists attack the problem by trying to explain the phenomena: what's a plausible reason why it was cold in there? As opposed to: was it even cold at all, or was the cold merely experienced in OP's head? And so on. Also, some people may just be genetically predisposed to being credulous in this (spooky) realm, just as some people are genetically predisposed to being hypnotically suggestible.
Yeah this guy is hunting ghosts with a handgun while he needs some shotgun axe. Fucking amateur hour that's what it is
You are right. He is haunted, not the homes. The spirit will continue to haunt him until he dies and it can absorb his newly formed untrained spirit essence. Ghosts are patient and are playing the long game. Good analysis sir!
Handgun bullets are plentiful and easy to find so of course OP would use that. He needs to save his shotgun ammo for the ghost boss.
Amazing...... so ghosts are just like kids who are shit at hide and seek. don't want to be caught but aren't capable of shutting the fuck up.
Please do go on about which specific electrical systems ghosts can 'access'. Can they pop on the air con if they are hot ? fuck with Alexa and make her order me some extra small dong bags for their amusement ? have a good joke by turning on sex toys or are we simply just limited to light switches ? If so.... why light switches ?
This thread is gold.
Speak for yourself, I've had ghosts take a shit at the exact same time I do, I can tell because I hear two plops in the toilet even though I only felt one come out
Poop goes out, poop goes in, you can't explain that
Air con, no, because it's vaporous. Alexa, yes: remember when she laughed all the time? That was ghosts, but they covered it up. However, and this is crucial, that was only an accidental transmission; they can't actually access the system proactively to order items or even play music (ghosts notoriously hate music, which is why they turn on televisions loudly, to drown it out). They can't turn on sex toys, of course, because those are battery-operated; they need a connection to the mains. That's part of why light switches are such a common ghostly target—plus the interaction is simpler, so it's easier for ghosts to perform when they are low on mana.
Only kid ghosts are like kids. The adults one behave like adults, within reason.
Hope this helps.
Unfortunately I think ghost rules mean you get stuck in one place.
I think you missed the part where a human who already thinks he's dreaming is getting what he's seeing validates by an animal which is also clearly seeing the exact same thing... much different than me turning on a microwave fam
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No, no, no. I've done research. Lots and lots of research. Trust me, I'm a writer of ghosts. A professional.
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