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Smiles · Jul 24, 2018

I really don't get the complaints that the Travelers do not have a tied story. There are enough little hints and touches that seem connected enough granted this is not normal JRPG party connected but I am enjoying seeing the links even in Chapter 2

Bonejack said:
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Keep your health up, know when to boost defend with the weaker chars (the boss only hits physcial iirc), and keep him debuffed via Hunter and Thief skills. Especially the Hunter skill that makes an enemy go last for two rounds is a god-given gift at this time. It opens up enough window for you to heal/buff up and debuff again.

you know I have never boosted defend or even used defend more than twice the whole game just to see what it does lol, I am just an active attacker in RPGs
I was facing a boss recently where I lost my lead character Cyrus he died and I did not even take a moment to heal him first I was going to but I was too tricker happy and the boss died with one last hit from my next person up and I was preparing the next to use an item to bring Cyrus back it was his chapter 2 boss after all but everyone got a lot of JP and EXP for the booss except Cyrus

it went to the next cutscene with Cyrus although his status was dead lol I really hat he got nothing for that fight he is my tank in this game he does the most damage so far because the others are still slow to level op

I just got saving grace what should I expect from the first time using it?

Legacy · Jul 24, 2018

Disclaimer said:
If you have the tolerance for it, absolutely. That stuff'll last you basically the whole game.

Pro-tip that I didn't realize for entirely too long: you can quickly quit to the title screen by going Menu -> Miscellaneous -> Return to Title. Speeds up savescumming tremendously.

Wow, I never knew about about the quick quit! Thanks

Bonejack said:
Another option is abusing the money making scheme with Tressa, getting rich as heck and just buy the things!

Yeah that's also an option

MiTYH · Jul 24, 2018

Finished all the Ch1s, headed straight for a subclass shrine. Was level 17-18 all around and got one-shot. So, might need to do a few ch2s or grind for a bit. Shame, wanted to start working on some subclasses for Cyrus to limit the SP he uses.

ParityBit · Jul 24, 2018

Wijuci said:
I'm pretty sure many people found the same thing I did, but my Olberic set up is so good at duels I have to share it.

Olberic: Warrior/Hunter
- Surpassing Power : to deal massive damage with the Divine skill
- Second Serving: 50% chance to attack twice (breaks quicker)
- Eye for an Eye: 50% chance to attack when hit (breaks even quicker!)
- Inspiration: with the previous two skills, retrieves SP between once and three times per turn (never run out, always ready for Divine skill)

It's just perfect for duels.

I just got him recently. Do you generally duel everyone? I have been bypassing doing it much if at all. If so, what is the reason for doing it?

Jotakori · Jul 24, 2018

........................... This end game boss is seriously out to friggin' get me. I finally get back to it and am literally just about to start the battle, and my game completely glitches out to where the controls completely stop working. -__-

Meaning I have restart it and fight all eight sub-bosses over again fjkda;fds gooood damn it. o<-<
At least I've gotten very good at whooping their asses quickly. But ugh, I am SO READY to be over this entire boss lol.

Laie said:
Personally I found the last boss to be more about setups and abusing items rather than levels, I beat the boss after 3 tries with characters ranging between lv53-55 before going into the dungeon, and my friend beat it at 50-52ish with the knowledge I provided to him

Well dang, I'm clearly doing something wrong then lol. Oh well, puzzling a boss battle out is part of the fun and I'll figure it out eventually. I spent a good like hour or so readjusting my team, equipment, and finally using all my nuts. Hopefully third time will be the charm for me, too - if the dang game will let me get there again pfft.

Wijuci · Jul 24, 2018

Exentryk said:
Wait till you get the Runeblade job.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I will change the passive skills when I get new jobs (don't know anything about them yet), but for the main game it's a perfect set up.

ParityBit said:
I just got him recently. Do you generally duel everyone? I have been bypassing doing it much if at all. If so, what is the reason for doing it?

I always duel the people standing in front of doors, so that's a couple per town, and then the ones required for quests and sidequests.
My main is Primrose, but because of duels Olberic is currently two levels above her.

Exentryk · Jul 24, 2018

I like how when you meet a new NPC, the first thing you do is press Y to see what you can steal/inquire/etc, rather than just talk to the guy, lol.

Katana_Strikes · Jul 24, 2018

Exentryk said:
I like how when you meet a new NPC, the first thing you do is press Y to see what you can steal/inquire/etc, rather than just talk to the guy, lol.

You can talk to them? :p

MysteryQuesadilla · Jul 24, 2018

I was enjoying Therion's story for the most part (and still am) but some of the dialogue in subsequent chapters is some next level cringe.

Wijuci · Jul 24, 2018

Exentryk said:
I like how when you meet a new NPC, the first thing you do is press Y to see what you can steal/inquire/etc, rather than just talk to the guy, lol.

Yeah, sometimes I forget.
At least, with dogs, you cannot forget . Just press Y to learn how they live a carefree life.

(This dog legit made me smile yesterday.)

Xenoboy · Jul 24, 2018

What does Millenial Frond do? It's an attack from a captured mutant mushroom

Buzzth · Jul 24, 2018

I'm still completing the second chapters. I'm impressed how some of you have managed to reach so far into the game. Unfortunately time constraints do not allow me to keep up. I have enjoyed the feeling of taking it slow with a chapter a day on the other hand. That being said, I wonder if some of the complaints about repitition are because of people playing too much of the game too fast. I really feel like this is a game that should be experienced at a steady pace - in that case, the frequent battle encounters make sense to me at least.

Mbolibombo · Jul 24, 2018

so I died a horrible horrible death in chapter 2 second character so I guess I need to level up..
I have 3 characters around lvl 23 and the rest in high teens.. where would be the most efficient place to grind a few levels? like 4-5

Wijuci · Jul 24, 2018

Buzzth said:
That being said, I wonder if some of the complaints about repitition are because of people playing too much of the game too fast. I really feel like this is a game that should be experienced at a steady pace - in that case, the frequent battle encounters make sense to me at least.

Yes, I think the openess of the game is a double-edges sword.
Because of it, some players will want to go as far as possible in the story, nothing is stopping them.

I was kind of burned out of the story yesterday, so I gave myself a nice breather by completing sidequests and exploring to reach new cities.
It's what's great with the game: there are many activities to chose from, starting very early in the game. However, this can lead to a feeling of repetition if you decide to do chapters after chapters after chapters.

TheLetdown · Jul 24, 2018

Mbolibombo said:
so I died a horrible horrible death in chapter 2 second character so I guess I need to level up..
I have 3 characters around lvl 23 and the rest in high teens.. where would be the most efficient place to grind a few levels? like 4-5

The woods outside of Victor's Hollow should be about your level and I've seen a good amount of Caits pop up there.

Also great for farming a little extra JP in the mid-game.

Exentryk · Jul 24, 2018

Lelouch0612 · Jul 24, 2018

Wijuci said:
Yes, I think the openess of the game is a double-edges sword.
Because of it, some players will want to go as far as possible in the story, nothing is stopping them.

However, this can lead to a feeling of repetition if you decide to do chapters after chapters after chapters.

But then is it the fault of the game or the player or neither of them ?

Serious question that I am still asking myself with these open games.

AndrewGPK · Jul 24, 2018

Getting ready to start this game. Completely new, never played the demos. Any recommendations for starting character?

TheLetdown · Jul 24, 2018

Xenoboy said:
What does Millenial Frond do? It's an attack from a captured mutant mushroom

Wait, you caught one of those? I had one at 1hp for about 10 rounds and kept missing the capture.

Everyone else dealt with the constantly spawned adds.

Holundrian · Jul 24, 2018

FiveSide said:
What did you all consider the hardest boss? (Not counting the final boss.)

For me it was Olberic's Chapter 4 boss. Status effects, man. Status effects. And he had a nasty physical AoE too.

Nothing is ever hard in the sense that I struggle with it all that much you lose once adjust and go in. The fights where I died more than 1 time on was just pure stubbornness about not wanting to setup for more defense.

Most painful defeat though was the direwolf where I misjudged the hp left(had no scholar and he was yellow for a while now) and couldn't finish him off on the previous break.
So I just got fucked on his recover.

Bomblord · Jul 24, 2018

I think I'm shipping this in my head canon

They seem like a great match.

Heropon_ · Jul 24, 2018

AndrewGPK said:
Getting ready to start this game. Completely new, never played the demos. Any recommendations for starting character?

I would recommend Ophilia, she is great from start to post-game.
Best healer in the game and very powerful with Scholar, then Sorcerer secondary job.
Better HP/defenses than other magic users (Cyrus and Primrose).
And one of the best story in the game, especially the last two chapters.

III-V · Jul 24, 2018

Loving this game. 56 hours in, finished 7/8 chapter 3's. 1 Cait seen lol.

Planning to hit up all the secret jobs before starting any chapter 4 stories.

I highly recommend visiting chapter 4 towns before wrapping up chapter 3's.

Xenoboy · Jul 24, 2018

TheLetdown said:
Wait, you caught one of those? I had one at 1hp for about 10 rounds and kept missing the capture.

Everyone else dealt with the constantly spawned adds.

Yeah caught it at 20% with full boost, the move heals one character. It's a bit too hard catch for what you get.

Lelouch0612 · Jul 24, 2018

AndrewGPK said:
Getting ready to start this game. Completely new, never played the demos. Any recommendations for starting character?

Choose a character that you like (you have an overwiew before picking one), they are all viable and quite different that's why preferences vary a lot among players.

Wijuci · Jul 24, 2018

Lelouch0612 said:
But then is it the fault of the game or the player or neither of them ?

Serious question that I am still asking myself with these open games.

I don't see how a game can be held responsible for giving you freedom.
I mean, in real life you can eat pizza every single day, nobody's stopping you. But don't blame the pizza places if you start to find the taste and texture of pizza a little repetitive. :)

DarkJedi78 · Jul 24, 2018

Any pointer on followers to get a Ophelia? I remember someone posed one but I cannot find the post.

Lelouch0612 · Jul 24, 2018

Wijuci said:
I don't see how a game can be held responsible for giving you freedom.
I mean, in real life you can eat pizza every single day, nobody's stopping you. But don't blame the pizza places if you start to find the taste and texture of pizza a little repetitive. :)

Yes of course but can you blame the pizza company that only sells one kind of pizza ? Don't get me wrong, their pizza is great but sometimes you want a pizza but not the one you already ate last night. Eating burgers (optional dungeons) or sushi (side quests) is awesome too but this night you just want a pizza.

See what I am saying, it is a little more complicated. I am leaning on the conclusion that neither the game or the player is to blame. Each player does what it wants with the game and therefore experiences vary and are personal. The game designers can't design their games to please every single one person on Earth and each players have their own way to play the game (sometimes they can't change it, it is in their nature). That's all.

Exentryk · Jul 24, 2018

DarkJedi187 said:
Any pointer on followers to get a Ophelia? I remember someone posed one but I cannot find the post.

Luckless Sellsword in Atlasdam has Full Enfeeblement (debuffs enemies).
Drunken Solder in Flamesgrace's tavern has Noisome Breath (causes ailments on enemies).

BriGuy · Jul 24, 2018

SmashBro said:
Just got to olberic and his voice actor is laxus from fairy tail! He's now a permanent member on my team, MY BLADE IS UNBENDING

He's also Dio Brando from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Hearing him spout off noble pleasantries just seems wrong.

Haze · Jul 24, 2018

TheWanderer said:
You're supposed to figure out the sidequests on your own.

Yeah Tressa runelord is pretty strong but to be fair sidestep doesn't protect against elemental damage or instant death I believe, and the way to completely avoid elemental damage is slightly more difficult.

Figure out on your own basically amounts to "go around doing all available character skills on every NPC you find until something works" a lot of the time. You're often given very few clues as to what exactly you're supposed to do to advance the side quests, even down to possible locations.

As for grinding, I have all the characters, I have almost all of the main subclasses, and I'm still about 3-4 levels under the recommended for chapter 2 stories. There isn't really anything else to do in the game that isn't the side quests that I don't care for. I guess I could attempt the chapters "underlevelled"? How difficult are they? Ive only game overed one time so far"

thefro · Jul 24, 2018

Clusterdreams said:
Figure out on your own basically amounts to "go around doing all available character skills on every NPC you find until something works" a lot of the time. You're often given very few clues as to what exactly you're supposed to do to advance the side quests, even down to possible locations.

As for grinding, I have all the characters, I have almost all of the main subclasses, and I'm still about 3-4 levels under the recommended for chapter 2 stories. There isn't really anything else to do in the game that isn't the side quests that I don't care for. I guess I could attempt the chapters "underlevelled"? How difficult are they? Ive only game overed one time so far"

Have you gotten to the Chapter 2 towns?. Just walking there through a higher level area will probably have you gain a couple levels. Or you can run through an optional dungeon.

If you have gear from the Chapter 2 towns + sub-jobs you should be fine at your current levels.

Holundrian · Jul 24, 2018

Wijuci said:
I don't see how a game can be held responsible for giving you freedom.
I mean, in real life you can eat pizza every single day, nobody's stopping you. But don't blame the pizza places if you start to find the taste and texture of pizza a little repetitive. :)

I know this was just a memey answer in a way and there is an extent to which this may hold true but here is the actual thing in real life the environment you are in will determine a fuckton of how you act. The same way if you livee in a place where the next super market is a 1 hour drive away but you have access to 6 different pizza places(and not other types of food places) to bring you food in 10 minutes. The outcome you will get most of the time in this environment is gonna be very likely that pizza is going to be consumed much more frequently. This myth that you are "free" to just take that 1 hour drive every time when you're already hungry and beaten from a day of work is just very divorced from reality in which we have a lot of empirical data clearly showing that environmental factors can be very strong predictors of outcomes.

Now how does this link back to octopath well as someone that did everything in the game and really enjoyed my time with it, I think it would be pretty disingenuous to deny that the way the environment in that game is designed isn't going to lead to a repetitious feeling for a lot of people. Octopath gives freedom in the sequence of actions you take but it seldom does much to give you freedom of variation.

I say this as someone that did a lot of doing 1 story and then just exploring a for a while getting gear visiting a new city before doing another story. I ran out of stuff to do after 4 finished stories and basically had to power through the last 4 with not much else to do to break up the pace.

Haze · Jul 24, 2018

thefro said:
Have you gotten to the Chapter 2 towns?. Just walking there through a higher level area will probably have you gain a couple levels. Or you can run through an optional dungeon.

If you have gear from the Chapter 2 towns + sub-jobs you should be fine at your current levels.

I've been to a few of them getting the shrines. I guess I'll just go ahead and start those. Is danger level equivalent to enemy level? Cuz I was going aroundin danger level 30+ areas just fine.

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TheRightDeal · Jul 24, 2018

The game saw fit to throw me two Caits in the same battle last night. I didn't recognize them and used my first turn to break some lame crab thing. I decided to end my session there.

miserable · Jul 24, 2018

anybody from Europe that bought the game: is it multi-language? for example, if I buy it from Germany, will it have english too?

Lelouch0612 · Jul 24, 2018

miserable said:
anybody from Europe that bought the game: is it multi-language? for example, if I buy it from Germany, will it have english too?

Yes, the game is in the same language as your Switch. Voice acting is English/Japanese tho.

donkey · Jul 24, 2018

Woop. Finally caught a Dreadwolf. Need at least two more as I plan on unleashing them in the final dungeon when the time is right, hah.

I would've caught another one, but my bow cast confusion on the Dreadwolf when I did Mercy Strike and it killed itself. :(

Also had two Cait family spawns in the span of five minutes.

miserable · Jul 24, 2018

Lelouch0612 said:
Yes, the game is in the same language as your Switch. Voice acting is English/Japanese tho.

great, thanks!

Deleted member 419 · Jul 24, 2018

I put 87 hours into this game and saw maybe a half dozen Caits max. I'd say I have the worst Cait luck of anyone in this thread lol.

I never specifically went grinding for them though.

Serrato · Jul 24, 2018

FiveSide said:
I put 87 hours into this game and saw maybe a half dozen Caits max. I'd say I have the worst Cait luck of anyone in this thread lol.

I never specifically went grinding for them though.

I've got Caith 5 times and 3 of those times they fleed the first action they could do. Oh well!

haxan · Jul 24, 2018

FiveSide said:
I put 87 hours into this game and saw maybe a half dozen Caits max. I'd say I have the worst Cait luck of anyone in this thread lol.

I never specifically went grinding for them though.

I have just about 18 hours in and I've seen 5 or 6. Only managed to kill 1 though. I came across all but one in the region right outside Carrion Cave. Not sure if it's luck or if it's a hot spot. I got 5 levels for killing one.

Nauren · Jul 24, 2018

About 5 Caits and killed 2 at 25 hours in.

ZiggyPalffyLA · Jul 24, 2018

Bomblord said:
I think I'm shipping this in my head canon

They seem like a great match.

He's obviously just trying to cover for his confusing feelings toward Zeph.

Bartend3r · Jul 24, 2018

FiveSide said:
I put 87 hours into this game and saw maybe a half dozen Caits max. I'd say I have the worst Cait luck of anyone in this thread lol.

I never specifically went grinding for them though.

I've seen Fat Caiths twice, I hit them 30 times and still they fled.

celigio · Jul 24, 2018

Dang, these chapter 3 bosses are no joke. Only Primrose and Cyrus left. Question: should I tackle the advanced jobs bosses? My levels are 35-40

RDreamer · Jul 24, 2018

1 Cait at 38 hours in. And I saw him about 36 hours ago. Couldn't kill it.

AtmaPhoenix · Jul 24, 2018

Just beat my first secret job boss. Going into it with a plan is basically a must. It made the fight super easy as soon as I was able to execute it, but man he would have destroyed me if I wasn't prepared. I feel like all the secret bosses are gonna be like that.

raangz · Jul 24, 2018

Just beat Hollow Knight and moving on to OT now, just started it!

I started off with Therion bc i like thief classes, played him for like 15 minutes and was like "Cool" and switched to Primrose bc i also like Dancer classes. Primrose story intro seems way more initially appealing to me from the get-go, so I think I'll stick with her.
Is there a turning point in the beginning of each person's story that you guys would say I should play to for each person? Or does starting character not really matter in the grand scheme of things other than who you identify as / cant remove from party?

Only been playing for 45 minutes so far and just got a taste of the combat and everything seems awesome. Can't wait to play more!

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