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Oct 27, 2017
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Pedantic bullshit honestly.

The point is, there's no good way to play Nintendo's backlog on their most current system.

End of story.

There is. Hince this.


When they release the online service with their 20 nes games.

Vs

Mod your switch and have the option to play everything retro.

Next step is getting rid of the easy access stuff. Like ROM sites.
 

Pimienta

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Oct 25, 2017
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Roms will exist until the internet dies. I mean, you can download a whole console library. Roms sites are just simplier to use to most people.
 

RyoonZ

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Oct 25, 2017
645
Very good. If you want to play premium quality product, you have to pay premium price. There's simply no justification for it, and don't use that preservation bullshit lmao.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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There is a write up about corporations, IP and art that I would love to share, I'm thorn between making a new thread or sharing it here.
 

Napalm_Frank

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Oct 27, 2017
5,734
Finland
Very good. If you want to play premium quality product, you have to pay premium price. There's simply no justification for it, and don't use that preservation bullshit lmao.
Or people will continue to download the ROM for free instead, this won't change a thing. Best way to combat it will always be to offer a reasonable service to get the games (read:VC).
 

CaviarMeths

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Oct 25, 2017
10,655
Western Canada
So, the most current console, the one that isn't in storage somewhere, doesn't have it.

Gotcha.

Thanks.
So what's your angle here? Nintendo should not go after copyright violations because... you want them to either put ROMs on the eShop or allow piracy?

I mean I want more convenient ways to play classic games too, but it's not like there aren't current options, or any other platform is offering a better way to play 90s content. Using your old hardware to play old games isn't some outlier solution. Nintendo should be doing more to bring classic content to consumers, but acting like it's wrong of them to pursue copyright violations is... pretty daft.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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It's an endless game of whack-a-mole. They'll take this site down and another one will just pop up in its place, probably from the same owners even.

There really isn't much they can do about it other than keep on whacking those moles. The piracy sites really don't need any cheerleaders here, they're winning this fight and likely always will.

The best thing they can do though is to make these games easily available via the VC on their current platform (and platforms going forward).
 
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ThankDougie

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Nov 12, 2017
1,630
Buffalo
So, the most current console, the one that isn't in storage somewhere, doesn't have it.

Gotcha.

Thanks.

dude... you can play it on currently available Nintendo hardware. would be great if it were on the Switch, sure, but you've been answered. the weird thing is you could pick literally a hundred other games to gripe about, so I'm not sure why you're worried so much about LoZ.
 

SephLuis

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Oct 25, 2017
1,343
Nintendo may be out for blood, but I don't think this will resolve the underlying issue.

Plenty of games that were never re-released and cannot be bought legaly are on ROM sites.
Even worse now because their service for buying legacy titles is non-existant.

Nintendo should pick a page out of Valve's book about fighting piracy. You make your service better instead of playing whack-a-mole.
 

Napalm_Frank

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Oct 27, 2017
5,734
Finland
They've had VC up for almost a decade, doesn't really change much. Making it a bit harder could help.
And I'd bet top dollar that their VC service has been very lucrative. Stuff like the classic consoles and whatever the service stuff will be is just making things more convoluted than it needs to be.

Of course it's impossible to stamp it out entirely but really, simple VC service for Switch is the most logical way forward. Nobody gon want to hold on to Wii U and 3DS forever.
 

Abdulrahman

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Oct 30, 2017
968
Nintendo wants to resell the same games without giving purchasers a network-wide download list, no BC. I know some (gulls) who bought the same games on the Wii, DS, 3DS, WiiU.
 

legend166

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Oct 25, 2017
2,113
Pedantic bullshit honestly.

The point is, there's no good way to play Nintendo's backlog on their most current system.

End of story.

I'm as critical as anyone when it comes to Nintendo's handling of their legacy software, but just because they decide not to sell you something on the exact form you would like does not entitle you to download it for free.
 

Instro

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Oct 25, 2017
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Very good. If you want to play premium quality product, you have to pay premium price. There's simply no justification for it, and don't use that preservation bullshit lmao.

I don't think preservation is bullshit personally. The vast majority of old games will be never be re-released or made available in any legal way, particularly console games. Frankly I have a hard time caring about retro game piracy because of this, and certainly it doesn't seem to have affected sales of re-releases even though old games have been readily pirated since the late 90s. I mean I don't many Japanese games/series would have the popularity they do outside of Japan without people playing fan translated ROMs many years ago. Nintendo seems to be the only out out really cares anymore, and they only kicked into overdrive with claims since they released the NES classic.
 

UsoEwin

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Jul 14, 2018
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Going public with a site like that is just asking for trouble. There are a great many that have slipped under the radar for years because they are private only.

I wonder where the servers were hosted.
 

Oregano

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Oct 25, 2017
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If not being on Switch is enough to justify pirating games then third parties better start litigating fast.

Nintendo wants to resell the same games without giving purchasers a network-wide download list, no BC. I know some (gulls) who bought the same games on the Wii, DS, 3DS, WiiU.

DS didn't have VC and all Wiiware(apart from Lost Winds?) was transferable to Wii U for free.
 

jwhit28

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Oct 25, 2017
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Or people will continue to download the ROM for free instead, this won't change a thing. Best way to combat it will always be to offer a reasonable service to get the games (read:VC).
They have been offering VC for over a decade now. I don't think it makes a dent. Especially if people are gonna justify rom sites because Nintendo and the 3rd party publishers entire back catalog isn't immediately available on all new hardware like they have in this thread and the last one.
 

cw_sasuke

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Oct 27, 2017
26,400
I mean duh.....they are paying Capcom, Sega, SE and co. to be able to put their games on the Miniconsoles.
If they are expanding on classic consoles and their classic-subscription plan they probably will try to limit the reach of some popular sites.

The people who really are into this and wont pay are affected by this anyway...this moves always target the most casual users. If googling or looking for classic Nintendo games they dont want these sites to show up before the official Nintendo solution.
 
Jun 23, 2018
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Canada
I don't think preservation is bullshit personally. The vast majority of old games will be never be re-released or made available in any legal way, particularly console games. Frankly I have a hard time caring about retro game piracy because of this, and certainly it doesn't seem to have affected sales of re-releases even though old games have been readily pirated since the late 90s. I mean I don't many Japanese games/series would have the popularity they do outside of Japan without people playing fan translated ROMs many years ago. Nintendo seems to be the only out out really cares anymore, and they only kicked into overdrive with claims since they released the NES classic.

[not advocating downloading roms because someone's gonna interpret it that way and whine]

Not to mention Japanese-only games you can't even play without applying a patch or learning a whole new language, plus paying hundreds of dollars to own them and a Japanese version of the system if region-locked.

Or "official" ports that are unplayably glitched.

Or you lost your game library including rare games you can no longer afford.

I wish companies would just sell their games instead of keeping them under lock and key. And stop with the convoluted copyrights that make games only available with certain restrictions or not at all.
 

Ninjadom

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Oct 25, 2017
5,192
London, UK
Nintendo may be out for blood, but I don't think this will resolve the underlying issue.

Plenty of games that were never re-released and cannot be bought legaly are on ROM sites.
Even worse now because their service for buying legacy titles is non-existant.

Nintendo should pick a page out of Valve's book about fighting piracy. You make your service better instead of playing whack-a-mole.

Don't get confused between the work of Nintendo's Legal Team and the work of Nintendo's Game Designers & Game Producers.
 
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