Thanks for the advice. Maybe I should get the other characters first. I only have 4.
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Thanks for the advice. Maybe I should get the other characters first. I only have 4.
Need some help identifying a song.
What's the track that plays while Tressa is talking to Olaf or whomever in his mansion after the battle?
What's the track that plays while Tressa is talking to Olaf or whomever in his mansion after the battle?
welp, can't equip it with my current sorcerer, can't use lances... and even if i could i would still be at 840 elemental damage only...
I'm actually only at 979 atm because I switched away from the elemental hat I used before but I'm also not using the best gear as I haven't reached post-game yet (only 4/8 chapter 4 done)
My Tressa is lvl58 atm, I did use a few Magic Nuts but not too many.
what are the stats of that dragon's scarf and the sorcere's robe and historian hat? thanks!
Dragon's scarf gives SP each turn, historian hat also only gives SP each turn and phys/ele def, Sorcerer robe gives 50 ele atk
They don't need to be dense with puzzles. A locked door that you need a key for. Defeat two mini-bosses somewhere which opens the path to the real boss. Pitfalls that drop you on a lower level. Have some scripted story scenario (like my Cyrus example) play out that limits you in some fashion. Have some kind of gimmick somewhere. I'm not asking for much. I'm asking for the slightest hint of level and game design, anything at all. Because Octopath Traveler has absolutely nothing.
And I like the characters too. Their stories are also fine in a typical JRPG sidequest way. I just don't think they are anywhere close to good enough to make an entire game out of.
but if you got your 4 characters at 50 why not do the stories of the others. You'll easily be at the same level or more thanks to the gear/knowledge you accumulated.
But if you didn't want to see their story then whatever : P.
Octopath would have been a better game if they ditched the character chapters altogether and just made it a completely open world game with less structure. The combat is great, there are some neat systems, but going through the actual character chapters is the worst part of the whole experience.
weird, wonder where is the 200 difference then... the weapon only have 63 difference and i have the same robe (i play in french so i wasn't sure)... i also have the elemental hat that gives +65 elemental and the accessory that give +100.... guess tressa have better elemental attack overall?
i will do the other stories... but they will definitely be lower than 50 cause i already explored all the map with the other team, and since i can teleport yeah they'll definitely be like 30-40 when i finish their story
Am I in danger of ruining any side quests or story elements by selling any of the items with the "fetches a ___ price if sold" description?
Agreed 100%. Especially the scenes with Alf and Tressa you mention. It's very verbose.
Man, that is super disappointing. :\
Yeah, if this game was structured like Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song, they could have made something interesting.
So I'm fighting the Chapter 2 boss for Primrose and have him almost dead (he was in the Red and I'd hit him a few times).
Primrose turn comes up, and I'm feeling ballsy so I use Bewildering Grace to see what I can get.
It summons a monster that heals the boss for 32,000 health (back to full essentially), and I had to in essence fight him all over lol.
I was mad, but also laughing my ass off. Luckily the fight was cake and I still won....
Love this shit lol.
Primrose turn comes up, and I'm feeling ballsy so I use Bewildering Grace to see what I can get.
It summons a monster that heals the boss for 32,000 health (back to full essentially), and I had to in essence fight him all over lol.
I was mad, but also laughing my ass off. Luckily the fight was cake and I still won....
Love this shit lol.
No, the only items that matter for quests are in a separate Key Items category and can't be sold.
I think Ophelia's first boss is about learning to use Break on a boss. If you focus on Breaking the boss before the summon then the Gastlys never appear.
This absolutely matches how I roleplay it. Haven't taken candy from even mean kids, though.
Oh man, I felt pretty guilty stealing from some random townsperson who was homeless or the woman who said she couldn't pay off her family debts. But I needed that dagger so w/e.
One of the saddest saddest things in JRPGs is how the genre doesn't seem to like learning from itself.
Musing over it it's really sad that the people that worked on Bravely Default dropped the ball so hard on certain usability features when they already did such a great job in Bravely Default. That Octopath has no save loadout options for gear/class/skills is like crazy. Not having sped up battle speed is super dumb as well.
Musing over it it's really sad that the people that worked on Bravely Default dropped the ball so hard on certain usability features when they already did such a great job in Bravely Default. That Octopath has no save loadout options for gear/class/skills is like crazy. Not having sped up battle speed is super dumb as well.
So what better between these two sorcerer's passive skills?
Stronger Strikes : increase damage dealt to an ennemy weak point
Augmented elements : increase damage dealt by elemental attacks
i always target the weak point i guess stronger strike would deal more damage?
Since i want to equip the skill to get over 9'999 HP, i need to get rid of one of these!
Stronger Strikes : increase damage dealt to an ennemy weak point
Augmented elements : increase damage dealt by elemental attacks
i always target the weak point i guess stronger strike would deal more damage?
Since i want to equip the skill to get over 9'999 HP, i need to get rid of one of these!
Throw some more dances in the middle to get x2+ exp regularly and get back some of this exp ha ha : P.
Or maybe have a setup for caits for when you're running in dungeons.
Maybe one dance per boss at the end of each chapters may result in a surprise helpful bonus on top of the already good boss result ? Or even 2 if you still have primrose to finish.
i died too often with the dance, it's not worth it against bosses cause it could spawn an ennemy that gives him full life and physical and elemental buff... better keep it for small ennemies, and even then it's really rare that i got the exp...
Both are 20% damage increases that are inferior to the 50% increase options available (Elemental Edge / BP Eater).
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/204212-octopath-traveler/76820685
Eh, you keep using the word ambition when what it mostly means to you that you want something similar to what has come before but bigger and better.
Making something different and hoping people will like it is ambitious, and possibly more ambitious than the former when you don't have unlimited budget and not necessarily mass market appeal.
Can Octopath Traveler be better? Of course. But you're mostly ignoring what it is doing well in favor of what it is not doing other jrpgs have done before. I personally think the towns and cities in this game (and there are so many of them) are really well crafted and meets or exceeds my expectations of what they represent. The flavor that is given to NPCs are fantastic as well. It is also not that simple to make an open world structure out of a JRPG either so I'm sure they had to experiment. Did they succeed in everything? Of course not, but they did try to change the standard JRPG structure and I think that's quite ambitious.
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Is it really fabrication? Many people in this thread are voicing those exact complaints.
Yeah I don't know about that one, so far most of the reactions here have been vastly positive.
There is valid criticism but I really don't see a majority people being bummed ouf here or from other people playing the game at the moment.
Considering that in general people that are unhappy voice their opinion louder and more often, this OT has been overly positive. There are always people disliking something but they have been few here so far.
I actually wrote that tweet after reading the last few pages of this thread, so this is a fun ouroboros.
thanks for the info, but for this you have to have a fuckton on points just to get this passive skill! guess it will be for the final boss
I get that sense a little bit too. I don't think the game is meant to be plowed through either which is what he did and seems like some users are doing too. Obviously its going to be repetitive if you're blazing through the stories which are indeed all structured relatively the same.
I like it a lot even with the repetitive structure and I don't think I care about narrative cohesion so it doesn't feel disjointed to me. It's pretty much confirmation bias. He's talking as if everyone is in agreement.
Pretty sure this a common complain I've seen posted not only by people in this thread but other places as well.
What an irritating and disingenuous tweet. Reception has been overwhelmingly positive on Era—and, evidently, around the world. Yes, there have been people leaning more toward Jason's own perspective, but the vast majority have clearly not, and this narrative is entirely of his own creation.
One "flaw" that he has a personal intolerance for does not prevent Octopath from being an amazing RPG. I'm an old school fan of all the same classics as Jason, and Octopath immediately catapulted itself to being one of my favorite JRPGs of all time, for all the things that it does do, rather than the preconceived notions of what it should have been, purported by misquotations.
It didn't land everything flawlessly, of course, but nothing can live up the the nostalgic memories (read: not realities) of one's bygone favorites, which were themselves possessing of myriad flaws.
I mean I have been plowing through it ... 66 hours since release (Got it two days earlier).
The game has flaws, yes, defintely.
But in no way can I say I'm disappointed, I'm still reading every single scrutinize/inquire, doing every sidequest I find and run around the map doing sidedungeons I find.
I'm only done with 4 out of 8 chapter 4 and I'm already seeing the bigger picture this is implying.
Framing this game as a disappointment to the masses doesn't seem right considering we have a 140+ page OT with most people saying they have a great time except a few here and there pointing out flaws or outright disliking it.
User Warned: Personal attacks
I've always been iffy on Schreier's style of journalism, despite the praise he gets here. You don't work at Kotaku without having that sensationalist "edge". This post almost seems like he's desperately taking pleasure in establishing a narrative.
Using the phrase "reactions" here is disingenuous, he's doing this to get a rise.
EDIT: Warning was totally fair, I was a little too personal, just not a big fan of how the criticism was phrased.
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I agree with Jason. Game is fun, but it basically plays the same in every story. It´s mostly about combat and messing with the classes than anything else. It´s also a bummer that Primrose chapter 1 is by far the best story so far (Ive finished everyones chapter 3) and we played it in the demo already. Some of the stories are really boring and go on forever.
The structural "flaws" are a subjective thing. I enjoy the short chapter nature of the game a lot, it allows me to feel like I advanced in the story when playing short sessions. In fact this game is designed to be played in short sessions IMO, every chapter has all the JRPG ingredients (towns, field exploration, dungeon, boss, epic conclusion) in a small scale. The lack of party interactions isn't annoying me as much as I thought, because the stories are interesting enough.
There's a certain lack of setpieces and more diverse gameplay scenarios, sure, and the game doesn't feel as epic as FF VI or Chrono Trigger, but the more realistic stories are something that I'm enjoying a lot. I hope that the new game from the team has a bigger budget that they can use to make the experience more epic.
A few pages of a thread on a very particular site doesn't seem to be the consensus that you purport it to be.
Though we often joked with the old site that journalism was self-devouring (GAF = internet) so it is sort of funny I agree. I guess it will happen when journalists are so ingrained in a community (not saying that's a bad thing)
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As someone that has not joined in on the circlejerks before playing the game on here and as someone that is always more on the side to critic things even if I love them I think the criticism is absolutely fair. That said I think the discourse also should acknowledge that mileage can vary a lot and despite recognizing something as being less than optimal it not being really a thing that knocks a game down in an considerable way.
The media that praised FF15 should really understand this especially. A game on paper I'd argue is even more flawed than anything Octopath does but that is the example of how mileage can vary.
I just wish people could feel less attacked by critic because I think it would help having critic become more nuanced as well.
But alas I guess I have to be stuck in a world where whenever I will talk about cold steel II a game I really enjoyed to the point of platting it people would probably just think I'd hate the game hearing me muse about it.
The media that praised FF15 should really understand this especially. A game on paper I'd argue is even more flawed than anything Octopath does but that is the example of how mileage can vary.
I just wish people could feel less attacked by critic because I think it would help having critic become more nuanced as well.
But alas I guess I have to be stuck in a world where whenever I will talk about cold steel II a game I really enjoyed to the point of platting it people would probably just think I'd hate the game hearing me muse about it.
"This Will Be the Point Where People Finally See Octopath For How Bad It Really Is," Says Increasingly Nervous Man For Seventh Time Since The Preview Thread
Jesus christ go to a casino man.
I'm over 30 hours in and have only seen one cait. That was at about an hour and a half in that I saw it and really had almost no way to kill it because it left right away.
Y'all gonna get this thread lock.
Yeah. Chapter 4 bosses can be pretty rough especially.
Yeah. Chapter 4 bosses can be pretty rough especially.
I legit hope the fandom of this game doesn't go off the deep end of criticizing someone's (Jason's) opinion or writing on the game.