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Who Is America? (Sacha Baron Cohen show) |OT| Why Is America?
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As soon as I finished watching this episode I went to google and searched for Kingman, Arizona to see what news stories where were about it after it aired. The title of first one listed made me laugh at the irony - "Kingman's Powerhouse Visitor Center is living up to its name".
https://kdminer.com/news/2018/jul/22/kingmans-powerhouse-visitor-center-living-its-name/
https://kdminer.com/news/2018/jul/22/kingmans-powerhouse-visitor-center-living-its-name/
Cohen has fucking balls of steel, and is a genius. Holy shit at the Kingman Mosque segment, and also Corrine Olympios. My sides were hurting during both of those segments.
Hell no, he arguing this shit out was hilarious. Dummies being the tipping point :lol I thought Cheney was the only weaker one.
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Yeah, there are times when the laughs just turned to dismay. It wasn't like I didn't want to watch it or didn't like what he was doing but I was having trouble laughing.
Usually they get them to sign something before hand. Sometimes they just let it rock because they have enough communication indicating that the person knew and consented to being taped. You don't 100% need a release, if you have someone sitting down in a studio in front of a camera, with the clear understanding that this going to be televised.
With hidden camera stuff, it's a little different and you really need a release. The town hall segment, for example, they almost certainly had them sign a release before sitting down, since it wasn't presented as a TV show.
In case of the Kingsman AZ town hall, they all had signed waivers before entering the hall. They were all also promised $150 for appearing there, some of the facebook comments from people who were there were like "Oh yeah I was there, went there for the $150" or something like that.
You could tell how comfortable they were about it, too. Like it wasn't even a thing they were worried about saying aloud around their neighbors.
The art gallery owner from the first episode had a great response to being pranked:
https://slate.com/culture/2018/07/w...es-on-sacha-baron-cohens-trick-interview.html
https://slate.com/culture/2018/07/w...es-on-sacha-baron-cohens-trick-interview.html
Just watched the second episode.
Jesus fucking christ. I can't... jesus.
She really seemed like a cool person.
Jesus fucking christ. I can't... jesus.
She really seemed like a cool person.
Yeah. "The blacks aren't welcome here, but we tolerate them"
seriously.
Seriously. And it's all been taught to them. And they're teaching it to their kids.
When the guy yelled out about how "this town's lucky to have black people in it" I legitimately went back and watched it a couple of times to see the awkward faces of people around him, but nope - nothing. Then the other guy just shouts out "he's saying there's black people in Kingmen that aren't welcome here either but we tolerate them" and I was aghast. I mean I know people harbour these feelings all over the place but to be so brazen in that situation. Fucking appalling.
Word is that the townhall segment was scripted and directed by Nathan Fielder from "Nathan for You", and SBC has really for this series surrounded himself with top-end satirist writers
I laughed and hated that dude face at the same time. Such hatred. I don't understand it. Then Trump playing into that shit for votes. In moving to Canada.
I find people like that repulsive. I hate that I have to share a country with them. Really wouldn't mind if they were all kicked out of the country and told to fuck off.
Yeah I didn't mean the participants were actors or the exchanges were scripted, but each segment and set-up is scripted and directed, SBC is evidently also great at ad-lib (reaction to the blacks comment).. It is in the credits also, four or five different directors per episode.
I mean - someone asks you to shout the N word for a TV show, the answer should be like, DOUBLE NO. Like, it should be NO if they ask you to shout it in private.
It's not just that his excuse is absurd, it's that he was that stupid and excited about the opportunity.
It's not just that his excuse is absurd, it's that he was that stupid and excited about the opportunity.
It should've also been telling to Spencer that Cohen wouldn't even use that word himself. He literally says "In America there is one forbidden word. It is the "n-word.". The Spencer goes around yelling the actual word at the top of his lungs.
The Trump base will defend him and their "right" to say the word, but thankfully even the current GOP won't DARE try to normalize this. The "tricked" defense is super weak too. Like, he volunteered it - the only trickery involved was he thought he was talking to someone else.
This would hold more weight if there had been more crowd working. But it literally only took the word "mosque" and they had the exact reaction they needed. They were obviously expecting to have to do a bit more to get them really going, adding in the Photoshop with the Arabic signs and the part with the Clinton Foundation. But they didn't have to go there at all, all it took in the end was saying the word mosque.
I don't think anyone didn't know that the segments were pre-planned though. Unless you were very unfamiliar with Ali G or the movies Cohen did.
Oohh my god I just saw the mosque segment. It's incredible what these people are willing to say on camera.
Agreed. The guns segment was amazing but otherwise the first episode kinda fell flat for me.
Regarding the Mosque segment in Kingman:
An Arizona newspaper called "Who is America?" a reality show, a quote from a person who was interviewed: " "I think they were trying to piss us off, just for reactions," said an attendee who asked not to be named." Well it worked!!!!: http://www.mohavedailynews.com/news...cle_1a4eb65a-f115-11e7-99ba-876f77c9a6fd.html
An Arizona newspaper called "Who is America?" a reality show, a quote from a person who was interviewed: " "I think they were trying to piss us off, just for reactions," said an attendee who asked not to be named." Well it worked!!!!: http://www.mohavedailynews.com/news...cle_1a4eb65a-f115-11e7-99ba-876f77c9a6fd.html
Impressions of episode 2:
The town hall segment made me pretty uncomfortable tbh. Just seemed like easy mode for Cohen, and what was the point? To ridicule people who are already doomed to have shit lives? Is it not already known that many run down shit towns like that are trashy/depressing/racist? That was the low point of the episode (and series thus far) for me and the only thing I liked was that his way of fucking with them wasn't meanspirited, mostly playful and trolly (in a good way) like a caring parent mocking their child as they throw a tantrum or a younger person mocking some of the more elderly, "old school" members of my family who don't know when to hold a thought at the dinner table lol. But I think their faces should've been blurred out or something, or another bit used altogether.
The Spencer bit was just 200 degrees of holy shit. Some people are so...so, so fucking dumb and will be talked into anything. Thank fuck for that one, as uncomfortable as it got. He did a great job exposing (literally at times lol) that southern gent of what he was, which is apparently a LOT of fucking things lol.
The bit with him getting the becky to endorse child soldiers was YIKES, and I'm a little conflicted about it because it felt like there were no steaks at first because nobody cares who she is. When you're taking an irrelevant reality tv show contestant down a few pegs it just makes it seem like you're low on material for a show like this. But the way it illustrated the shocking degree to which vapid celebrities are willing to sell their souls for success did end up adding something of thematic value.
Cheney one was too tame for the most part. He was pretty good at not taking the bait, but it was kinda funny how Cohen slipped in all those dick jokes and cultural references that went over his head. And THEN he ends up busting out the waterboarding device and gets him to autograph it lmao.
I keep thinking about what a lot of these idjiots are telling everyone in their circles after getting rekt so hard by Cohen..."How many times do I have to tell you, the hollywood libs sent the borat guy to infiltrate us and use powerful acting techniques combined with mental warfare, likely via training from democratic CIA members, to make us look bad!" It literally could've been a plot idea from Team America World Police 2 or something, but it just happens to be real life.
The town hall segment made me pretty uncomfortable tbh. Just seemed like easy mode for Cohen, and what was the point? To ridicule people who are already doomed to have shit lives? Is it not already known that many run down shit towns like that are trashy/depressing/racist? That was the low point of the episode (and series thus far) for me and the only thing I liked was that his way of fucking with them wasn't meanspirited, mostly playful and trolly (in a good way) like a caring parent mocking their child as they throw a tantrum or a younger person mocking some of the more elderly, "old school" members of my family who don't know when to hold a thought at the dinner table lol. But I think their faces should've been blurred out or something, or another bit used altogether.
The Spencer bit was just 200 degrees of holy shit. Some people are so...so, so fucking dumb and will be talked into anything. Thank fuck for that one, as uncomfortable as it got. He did a great job exposing (literally at times lol) that southern gent of what he was, which is apparently a LOT of fucking things lol.
The bit with him getting the becky to endorse child soldiers was YIKES, and I'm a little conflicted about it because it felt like there were no steaks at first because nobody cares who she is. When you're taking an irrelevant reality tv show contestant down a few pegs it just makes it seem like you're low on material for a show like this. But the way it illustrated the shocking degree to which vapid celebrities are willing to sell their souls for success did end up adding something of thematic value.
Cheney one was too tame for the most part. He was pretty good at not taking the bait, but it was kinda funny how Cohen slipped in all those dick jokes and cultural references that went over his head. And THEN he ends up busting out the waterboarding device and gets him to autograph it lmao.
I keep thinking about what a lot of these idjiots are telling everyone in their circles after getting rekt so hard by Cohen..."How many times do I have to tell you, the hollywood libs sent the borat guy to infiltrate us and use powerful acting techniques combined with mental warfare, likely via training from democratic CIA members, to make us look bad!" It literally could've been a plot idea from Team America World Police 2 or something, but it just happens to be real life.
Just watched the first episode. Some parts I already knew, but the artist part I saw for the first time and it had me rolling on the floor. I fucking died when she got up and cut off some pubes for him. What a good sport
Unfortunately Episode 2 isn't up on Sky Germany yet
Unfortunately Episode 2 isn't up on Sky Germany yet
Both Republicans and Democrats are calling for Spencer to resign from his position, he stated he will not resign so there's now a bipartisan effort to discipline Spencer: https://www.ajc.com/blog/politics/g...s-humiliating-segment/vNIDCsPu8FgZx7uzmRkrQN/
Here's Georgia's Governor's statement about Spencer:
And the chairman of the Georgia Democratic Party's statement about Spencer: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/22/arts/television/jason-spencer-sacha-cohen.html
Here's Georgia's Governor's statement about Spencer:
And the chairman of the Georgia Democratic Party's statement about Spencer: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/22/arts/television/jason-spencer-sacha-cohen.html
Nah, fuck that. You can be dealt a shit hand in life and it doesn't necessitate being a proud racist. It was bad enough at the start but when they went on to suggest that black people who're breathing the same air as them should feel 'lucky' for being able to do so, it's all the more fucked up. If the place is that much of a shithole then my sympathy lies with the minorities living there who have to deal with that situation and being shunned or worse. Not with the people making others feel threatened and more miserable than they are.
