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GI.biz: How Remedy is taking Control of its own destiny
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Says him in a discussion thread based on an article about the game :P But yeah I get what you are saying, it's not like it's the next GTA or something. But I think I saw a lot of excitement from gamers and media during E3 and in the deliberations after. Easy Allies currently has it between DMC5 and Smash in their desire index (rank 11). There will be more talk when there's more to show.
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control looks great at the same time i don't understand why they don't work together with rockstar to make max payne 4?! they could implement some metroidvania elements or even introduce a hub world somewhere in snowy new york. i just really would love to see them return to their roots, grounded but great feeling shooting and a noir atmsophere.
There's no reason to be down on this game for such a trivial reason.
The game looked great but they didn't show enough of it to get the hype machine going. It's reveal during the Sony conference too was a little weird, as it was made to look like a smaller indie game, instead giving it the song and dance that AAA games usually get.
You know the TV aspect was Remedy's idea right? not a shoe horned in MS initiative, Remedy has always been fascinated with FMV in their games. This was before the whole MS multimedia Xbox One craze.
yes but it was designed with Ms' big tv push and content delivery system in mind
Once that was gone the game's format suddenly made no sense and they had to rework it for the big $60 release thing. It's kinda a bummer because I could easily see a world where Quantum Break would have been a star as a weekly release on gamepass today, but eh it is what it is.
You can't just say "well remedy liked fmv before!" when looking at QB as a game considering the time when it was pitched MS wanted games like those specifically for a TV service that never existed when the game came out. QB would have been a radically different game had it been greenlighted even a year later than it was.
It actually wasn't, they simply planned to work with MS tv studios after that became a thing. Alan Wake 2 original had live action episodes as well, it simply got designed into a new IP with QB. Even their game after QB was going to follow the same direction, it wasn't dependent on MS multimedia future: https://gamerant.com/remedy-quantum-break-tv-show-452/
It' always better when a developers owns it's IP.
Control looks cool and I'm eager to play it but they need strong marketing to make it successful.
Control looks cool and I'm eager to play it but they need strong marketing to make it successful.
I wasn't that hot on the reveal. It looks like they've just repurposed Quantim Break's assets, style and tone into a new game, and considering how mediocre QB was I can't say that fills me with much faith. Reeks of a company cutting corners in desperation for a hit.
Even if MS didn't make a big push into multimedia, it still would have been the same.
That's quite an assumption not really backed up by anything.
It's sort of like saying Skyward Sword would have been the same had Nintendo never made the wiimote
It's backed up by the points I gave and what Remedy has said, you just seem to be ignoring them to believe your own idea which isn't backed up by anything.
I mean, Xbox still gets the game, it probably won't sell well, and there probably won't be a sequel, so nothing will have changed...
No it is not. You can't rewrite history and say just because remedy wanted to make a game like that that QB ever would have been greenlighted and planned like it was at MS studios had the TV push never happened.
Much like the skyward sword example, I'm sure someone on the Zelda team always wanted to make a game with 1:1 sword fighting but that game never would have been made without the wiimote.
The Wiimote example doesn't work because the sword fighting is dependant on a console being designed for it , TV episodes in QB aren't dependant on some new way to control a game. Remedy's previous games have had FMV, without any MS studios TV company or focus. There is no reason to believe that wouldn't have continued.
Previous remedy games weren't designed as a TV show that had literal hours of sitting down your controller to watch literal episodes of it.
The natural progression of what they were doing.... the idea that came from Alan Wake 2. One they wanted to continue to do after QB even.
Really? I didn't know it'll have co-op, got me more excited now.
I don't see how it repurposes QB's tone/style at all. QB is Hollywood as hell, and I'd argue that some of Remedy's weirdness was lost due to it. Control seems to be leaning into that strangeness much more, even beyond Alan Wake. There are obvious signals that point to this being a Remedy game in the way things are rendered, lit, the post processing, the art design etc, but many devs show similarities across titles. Naughty Dog, for example, has been perfecting certain animation techniques and overgrown environments for like 5 straight games.
And even if they are cutting corners in that fashion, so what. Game development is dangerous. Anything they can do to speed up development and get more titles to market for less money is a win, as long as quality isn't compromised.
I'm not sure this will work, and control looked slightly ok IMO. I think remedy needs a complete culture change. the days of long ass development cycles for 80 or wors metacritic games have to be a thing of the past.
What about that game requires a continuation? It's a finished (and great) story from beginning to end. It doesn't need a DLC or a sequel. Just like Alan Wake.
That already happened. The company changed these last years. They are a IPO now and do alot work for hire also now.
That's the natural progression of NOTHING. Not one developer in existence has shoe horned hours of tv into a videogame.
Alan Wake is Remedy's IP but since it was published by MS I'd think that MS has publishing rights for a sequel(s) as well which make it hard to develop if MS doesn't want to fund such sequel(s) despite Remedy owning the IP.
The whole game is just one story in a big universe, there are lots of lines which went unfinished and the main theme of causality can be developed a lot further. It's pretty obvious that they've planned for a sequel or two with QB and it's a pity that we'll likely never see them.
Well, we did have a full behind closed doors demo running all three days at E3, so I think we did show plenty of Control especially for a first reveal :)
The company has always been changing and that's one of the few constants in the video games industry: change. We've been pretty loud about the fact that we dont want to take such a long time developing our games at Remedy, but to get more games out there faster. Everybody here is working hard to achieve that. Well, once they get back from their summer vacations that is ;)
Oh lol, hi Thomas. Thanks for responding to my post.
Since I'm not a journalist I wasn't privy to the behind the scenes demo (which I'm geniunely not often very keen on, tbh).
Just to be clear though, I though what was shown at the Sony conference looked great, I just would have expected a more significant reveal at the Sony conference for such a huge game, than a few second trailer buried in a trailer montage.
I'm looking forward to seeing more, as I haven't played a Remedy game since Max Payne 2, but clearly you guys are very talented developers.