How do you guys think Alolan forms will work? Will they be in-game trades or will GF go full stupid and tie them to amiibo or something? After Mew, anything is possible.
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Junichi Masuda talks about Pokemon Let's Go major changes, graphics, more
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Now you're just going into irrelevant things. My premise in the original quote you responded to is that potential high sales does not excuse stupid game design. And you're responding with "well potential high sales + well, you're just a minority." There's literally no point in what you just said. First off, what do I care about being the minority? Did I generalize and say everyone else will have the same issues I have? Clearly not, as I have acknowledged that LGEP will sell well. So really what was the point other than to lowkey handwave criticisms away?
It changes a ton! If it didn't then people wouldn't be complaining.
I would be so glad if all the people complaining about just about everything Pokemon does nowadays just actually do as they say, and never ever touch a Pokemon game again.
So much less negativity and hate in the community.
So much less negativity and hate in the community.
Just doing some looking online, it seems like Nintendo has some ownership in both Creatures and Game Freak, but they operate them as seperate companies in a partnership over Pokemon. That arrangement is probably enforced by other Creatures and Game Freak owners / shareholders that don't want Nintendo's public company status affecting their % of ownership.
My man over here gets it. There's nothing wrong with a comfy Pokemon game that you can play with your significant other, parent or child. And if you get those people invested in the franchise to play the other games, it's a win for Nintendo.
I wouldn't assume that the design choices of this game will affect the next games as they are well in development. Also the fact that Nintendo annouced these and the 2019 core games basically at the same time leads me to believe that they will be different experiences. As for the series as a whole, I can't say. Depends on how well these games + the 2019 core games sell really.
Relax bro. Was he destroying the franchise when he made Ruby and Sapphire?
I don't think you get why people are complaining. But the game is still 100% an rpg. Changing the catching mechanic doesn't change it's genre
The next games probably won't be affected? After that? Who fucking knows. And the problem is Masuda's philosophy as a whole has been hurting the series, and that'll probably hold true for gen VIII as well
Transfer them from GO or just in-game trade/gift probably
It doesn't but it makes it much more accessible to people who previously weren't interested in the genre. Stop looking at that catching mechanic in isolation and look at them all together. The way Pokémon are visible and you can choose if you want to capture it or ignore, using berries and a motion based capture system, needing to capture multiples of a Pokémon for candies to level up and evolve. They've taken everything that Go players are familiar with and put them in a story based experience. It looks like a good middle ground for Go players and introduces them to some of the systems of a mainline game, like trainer battles and gyms while including mechanics they're already familiar with.
Gens are defined based on game mechanics, its not gen I and it is most likely not definable as gen 7. Probably best to think of it as a spin-off unless the gen that follows builds on mechanics introduced here.
They should give Pokémon to Level-5, everything but Pokémon and character design.
I've seen no evidence to suggest the reason casuals are excited about this game is the go catching mechanic. And again, if that was the whole reason like we initially thought, I would've accepted it. But my issue is that Masuda literally just said it's not the only reason, and I think that his idea that players are brain dead morons has been hurting the franchise for years. It's not the catching mechanic in go that most are complaining about here, it's how Masuda views the players and what they feel this means for the entire series going forward
Of course the other 15M matter. They're a bunch of suckers who will buy anything with the word "Pokemon" stapled to it, no matter how shitty it is. Obviously, that's why it's completely acceptable to disembowel the core game mechanics so that they can appeal to the casuals who probably won't even be buying a Switch anyway.
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I think it's a smart move, albeit, a couple of years late. But they could potentially attract a ton of new faces and bridge them over to next years game.
If so this will be the greatest $60 tutorial ever made. Looks fun to me so I'm getting it day one with that Pokeball thingy.
Nintendo don't have anything on Gamefreak, just a not disclosure percentage of Creatures. And hell, even being a subsidiary don't mean that the main company manages it. There's a reason for why Monolith and Retro have their own CEO, for example.
Ok, let's leave at this since we're reaching to no point at all with this conversation. I'm not interested in talk about the game design either way since I don't care for the criticism or it's existence, I'm basically watching it. lol
That'll never happen since Game Freak is the one responsible for the mainline and one of the owners of the franchise. And it's not like TPC and Nintendo aren't happy with the results either so yeah, not possible.
We're talking about the present. This is bad. This is not what Pokémon was. Pokémon is a big franchise thanks to the features of the original games that EVERY FAN LOVED AND STILL LOVE TODAY. Basic and easy features. I can't believe that exist 1 person that doesn't know how to press A to catch a Pokémon. This is just ridiculous.
I am a big fan of the brand, I have a Pokémon community, but now I can't defend this. #NotMyPokemon
You haven't spoken to many people about it then. My girlfriend who literally doesn't okay games outside Go and Candy Crush has it pre ordered because she's had a ton of fun with Go and this looks accessible to her. After she got into Go I tried to get her into a mainline game and she had absolutely no interest. Again it's not just the catching mechanic, the game just looks more appealing and accessible because they're already familiar with the sysems and know that they're systems they enjoy.
I see absolutely no reason to think this stuff will carry across to mainline games because it makes sense to keep Go as its own seperate series. If I can see that then I'm sure they can see that.
Seeing a lot of "They're dumbing it down for kids!" here, which is not what was said at all.
I'm also surprised that people seem to think that Masuda is "the problem" at Game Freak in regards to tutorials and hand-holding. Are we forgetting the forced Pokestar segment in shining example of a perfect Pokemon game B2W2? Forcing Bell Tower/Whirl Islands into the plot instead of extra exploration areas in HGSS? The past 3 sets of games not even being directed by him and having the highest amount of this in franchise history? This is the direction the company is taking, not the direction of one man, especially not one that directed GS, RS, and DP aka "Don't Pointoutwherei'mgoing" the game. Honestly, if you don't like it, I'd advise just not buying them anymore. This is how they want to make the games now and after oh, 8 years of solid complaints about the games getting too easy, I doubt they actually care very much about anything forum users are saying.
And before anyone accuses me of being a defender of Game Freak or on the payroll, I just helped release a in-development build of one of their games that I very much doubt they wanted public. I'm a fan, not a fanatic.
"Some players," not children. Considering this game is heavily implied if not outright stated to be a trojan horse to court Go players into the main series as a whole, it's pretty obvious that's who he's actually talking about. Whether or not it sticks around for Gen 8 is up in the air. I'd prefer the option to turn off motion controls for disabled players and people who like to play in weird orientations, so hopefully that feedback is taken in.
I'm also surprised that people seem to think that Masuda is "the problem" at Game Freak in regards to tutorials and hand-holding. Are we forgetting the forced Pokestar segment in shining example of a perfect Pokemon game B2W2? Forcing Bell Tower/Whirl Islands into the plot instead of extra exploration areas in HGSS? The past 3 sets of games not even being directed by him and having the highest amount of this in franchise history? This is the direction the company is taking, not the direction of one man, especially not one that directed GS, RS, and DP aka "Don't Pointoutwherei'mgoing" the game. Honestly, if you don't like it, I'd advise just not buying them anymore. This is how they want to make the games now and after oh, 8 years of solid complaints about the games getting too easy, I doubt they actually care very much about anything forum users are saying.
And before anyone accuses me of being a defender of Game Freak or on the payroll, I just helped release a in-development build of one of their games that I very much doubt they wanted public. I'm a fan, not a fanatic.
I've made no secret that I'm apprehensive about these games. I honestly believe the Wild Battles removal is a fundamental mistake and they could have mitigated it by having you still battle in the wild and then have the GO mechanics, as a best of both worlds, or have it be GO capture or you can press a button to go into a battle to weaken it to make it easier to catch.
I of course haven't played it and I've been assured it's fun and a nice change but I am still massively apprehensive about this as it's caused a shift to the stat system which will then alter the battle system and I don't think we're aware of the repercussions of it yet.
I of course haven't played it and I've been assured it's fun and a nice change but I am still massively apprehensive about this as it's caused a shift to the stat system which will then alter the battle system and I don't think we're aware of the repercussions of it yet.
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Cool, that's not what I'm complaining about. And if you're girlfriend is intimidated by the catching mechanic in normal pokemon games because it's too hard as Masuda suggests, then I'm sorry but she's an idiot because it's a mechanic that can literally be brute forced super easily that requires literally zero skill
Using the older gens he worked on as proof is pointless when Masuda has made it very clear his game design philosophies and priorities have changed since diamond and pearl
Jesus Christ, it's not because it's too hard its because she has no interest in playing games like that. I know people who have played games their entire lives and are easily smart enough to play Pokemon if they wanted, but don't because the actual gameplay doesn't appeal to them. I've said that like 4 times now, so how about you piss right off instead of calling my girlfriend an idiot.
There a huge difference in "I won't play that because it's too hard" and "i won't play that because it doesn't look fun".
I have absolutely no issue with dropping Wild Pokemon or them trying to radically change the formula.
I do have a massive problem with returning to Kanto because to me that is the complete opposite of radically changing the formula. And I am also similarly displeased with the gym gatekeeping, but that isn't as big of a deal to me as Kanto only
I do have a massive problem with returning to Kanto because to me that is the complete opposite of radically changing the formula. And I am also similarly displeased with the gym gatekeeping, but that isn't as big of a deal to me as Kanto only
Considering how so many people defend this with anecdotal evidence (means absolutely nothing that your aunt will buy this, I'm a long time fan and will be skipping this - it goes both ways) or sales that don't exist yet, I think they have enougn fans accepting anything for it to sell well.
Just hope it does worse than previous remakes. Otherwise more Gen 1 and even more dumbed down gameplay/maps, here we go.
Maybe the Mario and Fire Emblem devs are in the wrong for just not copying their mobile games instead of trying to make new quality titles!
More like smartphone games and the complaints about "haha an ice cream Pokémon!!" changed him for worse. If he could now, all these games would forever be just a tour through Kanto.
COol, not everyone has to play a franchise. If the core gameplay of mainline Pokemon doesn't appeal to people, then they should just sell to other0. You literally cannot make a product that will please everyone. Their are tons of spinoffs that do other genres. And those people will never be integrated into the core mainline crowd if they fundementally dislike what the mainline games are. I have every right to be upset if a franchise I've loved for years goes in a direction I hate when it's still super successful without doing that. Whether this does amazingly or not has nothing to do with why I am personally upset
Upon deeper look, this appears to be the case! Game Freak Inc. just has the 1 owner. Good for him.
They're making a core game next year! They have literally said there's a game in development for release next year aimed at core players. Why do you care if people who play Go or Lets Go don't integrate into the core games? If they can run these as two seperate series along side one another the problem?
Christ almighty Pokemon fans on this site are insufferable and I say that as a lifetime Pokémon fan.
Because I have no faith in gamefreak not to fuck up that core title, especially given that the core issue here is Matsuda's philosophy and not let's go itself
To be fair this is the same reason that the NES and SNES classics, and various VC releases, have included save states or rewinds etc. A lot of stuff that we found par-for-the-course 20 years ago is now seen as too difficult or frustrating for modern players.
This makes me really, really worried about generation 8 if this sells well. If this were a spin-off game and they said as much making a more simplified version wouldn't be too bad. The fact that they consider this to be mainline makes me worried that they'll be stripping more of the core gameplay in order to sell to what they perceive to be their main audience and dumb it down even further. I'm fully aware that this franchise is mainly for kids, but children are much smarter than people give them credit for.
So where does this lead into you calling people "idiots" for not enjoying previous Pokémon games?
Gameplay wise it's nowhere near the depth of Pokémon, but narratively and graphically it's leagues above. It definitely scratches the monster capturing itch, but in terms of structure it has more in common with Shenmue than Pokémon.
Anyone who wants to try it out should get YW2: Psychic Specters. It's basically a narrative reset with memory of the first game being almost completely erased and it does a lot more fun stuff with the setting and characters.
Seriously though the localization writing for Pokémon is bafflingly bad, even in the games where people praise the story. I started rolling my eyes every time Cheren started talking about "ideals".
I never said that. I said people are idiots if they find the catching mechanic hard because it's ludicrously easy even if you don't follow the guidelines and just throw balls until it works
