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MLB 2018 Season |OT| Introducing Shohei OhtAAAni
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I'm actually surprised the Orioles didn't get any major position players in the deal. I thought Joc or Logan would've been sent over along with some prospects.
It's also a deal I never would've thought Friedman/Zaidi would do considering the amount of prospects.
I really don't know what the Dodgers are going to do. Urias started throwing and RYU should be back this season. Most likely Baez will be back so that's three pitchers right there. Well that's if Urias comes back
That's why I mentioned the two from the white sox I did. I have a feeling those two will both move before the trade deadline, won't demand a large return, and could provide good value to a team going for a playoff push. They won't be key swing players, but not every move needs to be a huge splash and for some of these races a player that helps them win one more game might be the difference between winning the division and being a wild card team.
I am curious if we see anyone try to make a big splash in general though. Trading the farm for a young top of the rotation starter with many years of control left. I imagine at least one will move given the lack of big name starters on the trade market in general. Should be an interesting last 13 days of the month.
they got a ton for a rental especially when you compare to what the tigers got for JD last year. But JD was just a high impact bat while machado has historically been valuable both with a bat and on defense (though not so much this year on defense)
Beyond that though, aside from the top 100 prospect, most of the rest are people with potential to become regulars in the majors but far from a sure thing.
Machado was an in demand position, that most teams could use an upgrade at, and while it was likely an overpay for purely his talent, at the same time keeping that from their rivials is worth something.
the dodgers are only a half game in front of arizona, 2 in front of colorado, and 4 in front of the giants.
beyond those teams, machado would have been a huge upgrade to the brewers, a team they could be fighting against down the stretch for a wild card spot.
as I mentioned in an earlier post, a win or two could easily make the difference on if you win the division or are in the wild card race. So even though they paid a lot, and might only get a win or two extra for having machado, one of their rivals now won't get a win or two more from him which could easily impact the final standings.
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Shit, with him and Miller in the pen, they'll be twice as tough to deal with in the second half of the season.
Shame to see Mejia go, but at least we traded him for someone good this time and not a bum like Lucroy.
Not to mention that at least if Miller and or Allen leave, the Indians at least have 3 more years of Brad Hand & 5 years of Adam Cimber.
I mean, it's my opinion. I also thought the 116 win Mariners were paper tigers. The year the NL Central had three really strong teams the weakest of the three slipped through and then lost the World Series, and that didn't surprise me too much (except I expected the Pirates to be the team to drop the World Series).
It is pretty rare you get teams as well rounded as the Red Sox and Astros. Teams like that rarely screw up in the World Series. My guess is the NL's best chance is the Yankees slipping through, then promptly striking out every at bat and struggling to generate any runs.
I don't literally think there is a 0% chance the NL wins, but it doesn't seem like the odds are that great given what we currently know. Usually pitching might give the NL a better chance than expected, but the big three AL teams all have pitching in line with the best NL teams, and the Astros are at the tippity top.
Wow. Cleveland is really going for it. They've been playing good baseball lately but I feel like the Sox, Astros, and Yankees all are even better than last year.
But yeah, Cleveland seriously needed help in the pen so this is a reasonable get, going even beyond this season.
But yeah, Cleveland seriously needed help in the pen so this is a reasonable get, going even beyond this season.
I mean, they got quantity but I don't know that id describe it as a "haul". They got one Top 100 guy who projects as a average regular, and 4 lottery tickets who you may or may never hear from again. It's probably about in line with what you would expect to get back for a 3 month rental. Baltimore remains absolutely stupid for not trading him 6-12 months ago.
Holy shit, Cleveland's going all in, aren't they? It's a shame to lose Mejia, but I feel better about our playoff chances than I did yesterday.
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Now I'm dead from the heart attack. Didn't even get a chance to watch these Pads play.
Padres making up for blowing a great chance at Baez a couple of years ago
Certainly. Right now they're on course to play the Astros in the first round. That's going to be a great series.
Just picked up my hot weiners shirt!
there was a moment where peace was at hand, but they put mustard on the dog so fuck you.
Where are they selling this? I must get one.Just picked up my hot weiners shirt!
And all of you asking for ketchup... get out. A hot wiener all the way must never have ketchup. It is a thing of perfection as is and can only be made better with a glass of coffee milk.
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if Miller can get himself fixed they'll be something serious to deal with.
the North south alliance?
http://pawsox.milbstore.com/store.cfm?dept_id=5386&store_id=24
PawSox are wearing Hot Weiner uniforms in August. They have been selling out quick, and I managed to order one for pickup today at the pro-shop.
I went for the first time in a while this year to see Pedroia play, and the bastard didn't show.
Stadium is a dump still, but I kind of love how they have a few trashy bars around it in an industriai area.
The new ballpark they are going to build off the highway is going to be great.
Color footage of Ted Williams last game found.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/sports/ted-williams-film-last-game.html
This is pretty incredible. Just to see the difference in the ballpark alone.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/sports/ted-williams-film-last-game.html
This is pretty incredible. Just to see the difference in the ballpark alone.
We'd better trade Familia and whatever other BP assets we see as expendable. If Brad Hand and a throw in with "team control" fetch a top-20 two way catching prospect, something the Mets were in dire need for, then we should at least get a top-10 guy from someones system for Familia considering he's better than Hand.
If we trade everybody for more salary relief again I might blow a blood vessel. Now is the time to sell as high as we can (because we fucked up in 2016 and missed the window to trade Familia and Reed at the height of their value and the RP market).
If we trade everybody for more salary relief again I might blow a blood vessel. Now is the time to sell as high as we can (because we fucked up in 2016 and missed the window to trade Familia and Reed at the height of their value and the RP market).
I didnt know there was another PBS baseball documentary coming
Man if I'm David Stearns today I'm kicking myself, Corey Ray and Luis Ortiz could have gotten that deal for Machado done and Ray is in that Brinson vein of "will his offense translate with that swing".
Ray isn't as good a prospect as Diaz is. And if Duquette is to be believed, Diaz was the best player offered by any team.
Makes me wonder what Cash offered.
Their run isn't going to last forever.
by 2020 the AL central will likely be very competitive as the white sox will likely have unleashed all of their top prospects and picked up people from FA by then, and the Tigers won't be far behind.
KC will likely suck for a while (they started the rebuild to late), but the Twins could also turn it around pretty quickly.
you might as well go in on a year where you are almost guaranteed to make the playoffs at this point, rather than hope for the future where you will likely be facing harder competition.
The secret answer is no but it's Cleveland's problem now to figure out that Hand throws like 90% hard sliders and is a huge health risk.
It would kind of suck for New York or Boston if they lost a Wild Card game after their seasons.
how so?
there is a strong FA class coming this offseason and a decent looking one after that.
the tigers can go up to a 200 mil payroll and started this season at 125.
they will have about 100 mil to spend next off season which will allow them to buy a number of position players they need, and have a decent amount of pitching talent in the minors.
they aren't in amazing shape, but they should be able to rebuild into a contender pretty quickly.
it's a shame they both can't lose a wild card game >.>
I was more specifically talking about this season. The Tigers are a bit behind Cleveland and now with the Indians additions it looks like the division is wrapped up.
I'm with you here. Having watched Hand a lot this year, he's really a one pitch wonder and hasn't been pitching as well as his results would suggest. Some of the stuff on Twitter saying that Hand gives the Indians a division the next couple years is making me shake my head.
uh... the tigers haven't been in the playoff picture for a long time. (any tiny bit of playoff chance they had died on june 12th)
you have a funny definition of a bit, as 12.5 games back at the all star break is anything but a bit.
I mean... they only have 62 games left.
to even get back to 500 they would need to go 39-23
if the indians went 1 game over .500 from here on out (aka 33-32) it would require the tigers to go 44-18 to catch them lol.
yeah.... I don't think people realize exactly how much talent the white sox have in the wings right now (they have 8 of the top 100 still in the minors and most of them are expected by the end of next year), and how some of the talent that is currently in the majors is showing a ton of improvement.
It's possible a lot of the talent ends up being a bust, but they aren't nearly as bad of a team as they seem. It doesn't help that two of the bigger offensive forces on the team have been lost for most of the season. Granted one of those was the catcher who was cheating, but still.
It will be interesting to see who the white sox pick up this off season. They are targeting 2020 for the team to get together, but it wouldn't be surprising if they picked up some pieces this off season.
I also wouldn't be surprised to see the white sox involved in a trade or two during the deadline here. It's possible they could want to shift around some of that talent as that is a lot of right handed pitching and outfield help. Though 9th in their org is a 3rd baseman (currently hurt) and at second and short they are set for like 5 more years. 1st is a bit of an issue, but another couple years with abreu wouldn't be horrible.
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Well the AL Central maybe.
Dude throws like 80% sliders and bullpen dudes seem to come out of nowhere so it seems like a desperation overpay even if I want Hand to do well.
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