specially since it's been years since a terrorist act claimed by hamas, but in the last few months israel has killed 136 an injured thousands of palestinians.
fuck the israeli government
fuck zionism
fuck anyone who supports them
and such a shame of all the things mods could have focused on and made specific policies about, this is the one they choose, it makes people scared to comment honestly on what is systematic war crimes and discrimination and violence against a group of people, i'm kinda scared to post in threads like this which i don't understand why i have to be but i guess any forum has specific rules the users have to follow, even if they don't understand the reason behind it, but this one is in such a contrast of everything else i know era and its modding stand for, it's hard not to be put off by it.
there's no reason to tiptoe around criticizing an occupied apartheid state and their actions. adding a huge red wall of text to every thread about their disgusting crimes does nothing but make the users who may not be too informed about the issue to feel like it's a sensitive subject they shouldn't comment about, that somehow both sides are to be blamed, that somehow the palestinians may have done something to deserve this so i better not participate in the topic. just do what you guys did in the beginning. moderate the threads like you would any other. anti-semitism of course shouldn't be tolerated, and know that 99.5% of people who say "fuck israel" actually mean the israeli government and those who support them, not the general people who just happen to be born there. israel-apologists (thankfully a lot of them have been banned) will always report completely fine posts and sadly they succeed in getting them banned, and this kind of special treatment modding will only result in empowering them more.
even if the majority aren't in support of netanyahu, they are in support of zionism, and will never elect a non-zionist.I don't get this attitude about not blaming the Israeli population at large. The extreme right Zionists didn't seize power in a coup, or in a violent uprising. They were elected, as I understand it with overwhelming mandates. Polling suggests the Israeli public think Netanyahu is corrupt, and yet his governments polling remains positive. Please explain this.
Once they obliterate the Palestinian people will the Israeli warmongers be satisfied with that or will they look to flex their muscles and foreign influence elsewhere? I mean, hey, they'll have successfully eradicated an entire people under the guise of "national defense" and nobody lifted a finger to denounce them for it. Hell, many foreign allies will have financed and applauded them for doing so. I'd be looking to take down some territory if I wielded that kind of power.I quit. Forget Palestine. It's over.
Israel you win. Take everything. Fuck the Geneva convention. Take the Balfour declaration to the extreme. Forfeit all Palestinian lives.
Of course , I didn't call all Jews Nazis as that poster did I'm just saying people not being ok with something doesn't always give/get them a passDo you not understand the difference of a countries citizens and a religion all over the world?
I don't think this is anti semitic. Quite the opposite.Well the israeli people voted for that so i won't shed any tears for whatever happens to them.
The israeli state makes it pretty easy to become anti-semit.
don't.
they've already stolen and occupied a piece of land from another country (golan heights from syria) and they'll never give it back. once they're done with their current project i wouldn't be surprised if they set their eyes on other pieces of land to expand their state, claiming fake aggression as a result to attack neighbor countries and then annex pieces of land.Once they obliterate the Palestinian people will the Israeli warmongers be satisfied with that or will they look to flex their muscles and foreign influence elsewhere? I mean, hey, they've successfully eradicated an entire people under the guise of "national defense" and nobody lifted a finger to denounce them for it. Hell, many foreign allies will have financed and applauded them for doing so. I'd be looking to take down some territory if I wielded that kind of power.
Perhaps we'll get to see this play out firsthand in another decade or so.
Well the israeli people voted for that so i won't shed any tears for whatever happens to them.
The israeli state makes it pretty easy to become anti-semit.
Once they obliterate the Palestinian people will the Israeli warmongers be satisfied with that or will they look to flex their muscles and foreign influence elsewhere? I mean, hey, they've successfully eradicated an entire people under the guise of "national defense" and nobody lifted a finger to denounce them for it. Hell, many foreign allies will have financed and applauded them for doing so. I'd be looking to take down some territory if I wielded that kind of power.
Perhaps we'll get to see this play out firsthand in another decade or so.
Well the israeli people voted for that so i won't shed any tears for whatever happens to them.
The israeli state makes it pretty easy to become anti-semit.
Apartheid Africa is a better comparison than Nazi Germany to Israel anyhow.
Yeah, it sucks that Israel seems to routinely get a pass from the harshest of critisisms (that, say are leveled against a government such as Trump's frequently). But considering there are still Israelis alive today that had their entire families murdered by Nazi's I dont think it's too much to ask, considering there are better and more accurate ways to critisize the actions of the Israeli government.
On topic, this is gross and disgusting. Israel slips day by day into a singular apartheid ethnostate and the US seems totally ok with it.
Freaking disgusting. Every county in Earth should be levying sanctions against Israel right now, but they ain't : /
I don't get what Israel is doing.
This is just all around awful news.
This is the opposite of what I expected when it comes to peace in the middle east.
It is.Apartheid Africa is a better comparison than Nazi Germany to Israel.
The rule rubs me the wrong way because we don't usually ban comparisons for being not *quite* accurate enough. But it's true that Israel is more accurate a colonial trash-fire rather than any other kind.Apartheid Africa is a better comparison than Nazi Germany to Israel anyhow.
Yeah, it sucks that Israel seems to routinely get a pass from the harshest of critisisms (that, say are leveled against a government such as Trump's frequently). But considering there are still Israelis alive today that had their entire families murdered by Nazi's I dont think it's too much to ask, considering there are better and more accurate ways to critisize the actions of the Israeli government.
On topic, this is gross and disgusting. Israel slips day by day into a singular apartheid ethnostate and the US seems totally ok with it.
Freaking disgusting. Every county in Earth should be levying sanctions against Israel right now, but they ain't : /
From what I understand, theres a lot of opposition to the government, but theres a lot of ultra far right orthodox Jews that are hardcore as hell and pretty much cancel out that resistance. It doesn't help that the Palestinians in Israel basically boycott all elections, so a sizable not BiBi friendly block just doesn't exist.I genuinely wonder, is there a single person from Israel on this forum that thinks the current government is evil incarnate and their action intolerable?
Like look at Trump, he has supporters but many people can see through his mask and think he should be stopped. Does that happen in Israel or everyone is cheering for what's going on ?
We can only hope so.Super gross and shitty.
It is.
Obama/Bibi's not-so-cold war behind the scene gives me hop the next US pres can be more forceful on leveraging our influence to help stop the downward spiral there.
Primarily, on the history of South Africa. It may have taken some fifty years, but the oppressed of South Africa eventually triumphed over the Nationalist government's heinous apartheid policies. Yes, it required plenty of jailings, and deaths, and economic adversity, but in the end, justice emerged victorious. The same happened with Nazi Germany. The same happened with British-occupied India. Of course, things may look especially daunting now, considering the U.S. gov't. throws its full support behind Israel. Let me tell you right now that I don't feel all that optimistic. Our only hope is to either impeach the current U.S. leadership, or just wait until his term is up and vote him out of office, and hopefully replace him with someone who will denounce Israel's injustice. Not only the U.S., but the entire international community needs to stand together against Israel, as they did against apartheid South Africa in the 80's. Sanction them to kingdom come. Televise all the senseless murdering that the IDF is doing. Broadcast this evil everywhere. I stand by what I said. They won't win this. They never do.
From what I understand, theres a lot of opposition to the government, but theres a lot of ultra far right orthodox Jews that are hardcore as hell and pretty much cancel out that resistance. It doesn't help that the Palestinians in Israel basically boycott all elections, so a sizable not BiBi friendly block just doesn't exist.
Since Israel is constantly engaging in border conflicts it makes a lot of the population nervous and thus the country kinda leans rightward. Its gotta suck to be a left leaning Israeli, feeling so damn powerless. Like with Trump but never ending.
. Our only hope is to either impeach the current U.S. leadership,
Apartheid Africa is a better comparison than Nazi Germany to Israel anyhow.
Yeah, it sucks that Israel seems to routinely get a pass from the harshest of critisisms (that, say are leveled against a government such as Trump's frequently). But considering there are still Israelis alive today that had their entire families murdered by Nazi's I dont think it's too much to ask, considering there are better and more accurate ways to critisize the actions of the Israeli government.
On topic, this is gross and disgusting. Israel slips day by day into a singular apartheid ethnostate and the US seems totally ok with it.
when has israel ever given you any reason to believe that they would be a positive influence on peace in the middle east?I don't get what Israel is doing.
This is just all around awful news.
This is the opposite of what I expected when it comes to peace in the middle east.