Only in that the game looks way too soft/blurry in handheld mode, and now I know why.
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Digital Foundry vs Octopath Traveler: a 90s-style JPRG brought to life with cutting-edge tech
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Yeah! I think that is much more interesting than the framrate and resolution! The techniques the developers used to create this beautiful, unique game, are fascinating.
I think it's a pretty game, but the tilt shift and vignetting are annoying at times. The low angle of the camera also makes it hard to know where I am going or have been sometimes which is frustrating.
However, I really think that Square should think about remaking FFVI in this style. It's such a charming aesthetic.
However, I really think that Square should think about remaking FFVI in this style. It's such a charming aesthetic.
It's already HD in docked mode and at least for now it's exclusive, like Bravely Default & Second.
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1. very unlikely
2. it wouldn't be a remaster
3. it's already an hd game
Looks gorgeous. I can't believe I still haven't picked up this game, $$$ is kinda tight at the moment though.
It's very likely going to stay Switch exclusive, Nintendo seemed to have helped extensively on the marketing at least. Not too many Nintendo published games get ported to other platforms, though it does happen.
It's very likely going to stay Switch exclusive, Nintendo seemed to have helped extensively on the marketing at least. Not too many Nintendo published games get ported to other platforms, though it does happen.
I play at 60 and 120 fps often and I don't see the framepacing issue with my naked eyes at 30.
doubtful tbh, if this game goes anywhere it's probably to mobile first. I doubt Square see a significant audience for this kind of game on the other two consoles
Oh shit, it's almost like it's a fuckin DIGITAL FOUNDRY thread.
Who dares to talk tech in a tech thread.
You can't actually expect someone to watch a video before whining, come on.
Without any of the effects it would probably look pretty boring. Just a bunch of gray cubes and a few other shapes.
But if you add in all of the effects it would look really interesting I bet.
It pretty much already is in this style, just not pixel based and more representative of its paper namesake.
It'd be a port not a remaster and I'd be more interested in a 4k 60 version. No one really knows how likely a port is because no one knows the level of exclusivity. Nintendo is publishing it in the west but Square is doing it Japan which leaves open the possibility. The fact that it runs on UE4 potentially means a port wouldn't be too difficult but it also depends on if Square thinks there is an audience for it on the other consoles. I'd say don't expect it but I wouldn't completely dismiss it either.
Color Splash had some quite impressive lighting effects but there's indeed a ton more it can leverage
So this is a thread about a DF video, thus focusing on the technical aspects of the game, but discussing about the said technical aspects is somehow a sensitive issue?
I'm also surprised that the game does not run at 1080p/720p, and I had no idea the effects used were as taxing as they are on the hardware.
That being said, the game still looks great, but I understand why some of us feel mildly disappointed.
I'm also surprised that the game does not run at 1080p/720p, and I had no idea the effects used were as taxing as they are on the hardware.
That being said, the game still looks great, but I understand why some of us feel mildly disappointed.
Visually it doesn't look bad because of the stylized art but I personally am disappointed by the frame pacing issue. I feel it all the time while in the over world which is a bit disappointing for a game that looks like this but I suppose the effects are quite taxing on the Switch. (Is that how frame pacing works?)
I don't really appreciate the notion that we can't wish the game was native res undocked/higher res docked, or that anybody who does complain about it isn't playing and/or enjoying the game. I'm over 30 hours in and absolutely hooked. I think it's a very pretty game, but as somebody who plays nearly 100% undocked I really do wish that it was native res because unfortunately, I can tell the difference.
I hadn't noticed it wasn't 1080p docked but to be honest it's not really surprisng. A lot of what people think is traditionally taxing on hardware (textures, detailed models) is all pretty straightforward and non-taxing on modern hardware and is only really limited by video memory. The stuff that pushes hardware is the stuff that this game is doing a lot of. Super high quality image effects and extensive UE4 visual features, is very taxing on hardware. Just look at the shadow work mentioned in thsi video - that shit is so expensive in terms of rendering budget.
The frame pacing I had noticed but at least it's not really a twitch game to say the least.
The frame pacing I had noticed but at least it's not really a twitch game to say the least.
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the issue that people are pointing out is the same as always: people focusing exclusively on resolution numbers instead of watching the entire video that goes in great details about why the game is taxing that way
They spent like a minute or 2 on the resolution and framerate, which is the thing all the negative people are clinging on to. The rest of the video talks about all the graphical techniques used in OT which these negative people are just handwaving away, completely disregarding that a lot of these effects are usually stripped out of Switch ports due to the performance cost of them.
Of course it's fine to discuss it but when it always goes the same in every Switch DF thread. People focus only on the resolution and framerate and ignore all of the rest of the analysis.
I wonder if this is just an issue with UE4 games on the hardware. Do we have ANY UE4 game that runs at native res either docked or handheld? The only ones I can think of are Fortnite, Octopath and Snakepass and they're all well below native resolution.
unfortunate about that portable mode resolution considering the my only interest in the Switch is as a handheld.
It won't stop me from buying the game, but like Xenoblade 2, just can't help but be disappointed.
It won't stop me from buying the game, but like Xenoblade 2, just can't help but be disappointed.
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there's no issue with UE4. All of those games are demanding since UE4 is made for demanding games, and therefore are running at lower resolutions.
Unlike XC2, this game looks amazing in handheld mode. I wouldn't worry about it.
If I remember right, other consoles have issues running games at native resolution with the engine too. DQXI runs 900p on base PS4 so it could just be a general issue with the engine.
Really? In the DF video of DQXI they mention that UE4 games running lower than a native resolution isn't uncommon. I didn't do much research and I can't pull any titles off the top of my head though.
Yes one thing I did notice is how clean the shadows are. I've tried similar shadowing with 2d sprites in a 3d world and didn't get nearly as clean of a final product.
Chances of a patch to tone down/deactivate some effects thus improving resolution and frame rate?
The overly defensive posts are making this thread kind of a chore to read. It's a Digital Foundry thread; dissecting (and yes, critiquing) a game's graphics are kind of the point.
Anyway, 99.9% of the time, I'd agree that a higher resolution = better than, assuming everything else is kept equal. Octopath might be exception though. The relative softness of 720p could be helping the low-fidelity sprites mesh better with the 3D elements, but I obviously wouldn't mind seeing the game at 1080p to make a better judgment. As for the downgraded visuals in handheld mode, I wouldn't be surprised if they were implemented to save power consumption; this game seems to chew through battery life and my Switch gets pretty hot after running it for a short while.
Anyway, 99.9% of the time, I'd agree that a higher resolution = better than, assuming everything else is kept equal. Octopath might be exception though. The relative softness of 720p could be helping the low-fidelity sprites mesh better with the 3D elements, but I obviously wouldn't mind seeing the game at 1080p to make a better judgment. As for the downgraded visuals in handheld mode, I wouldn't be surprised if they were implemented to save power consumption; this game seems to chew through battery life and my Switch gets pretty hot after running it for a short while.
It looks much much better than Xenoblade Chronicles 2 in handheld mode. Fortunately.
It also seems to be a lot of people that are surprised and disappointed each and every time. Must be exhausting.
On another note it's hilarious seeing how much port begging there is for this game when Switch owners are the ones continually copping shit for port begging.
Looks nice, there's no doubt about that. But the scene where she walks in front of that mountain literally made my eyes water. My brain was trying to focus but it couldn't. I watched it again at that point and I have some weird pain like right where my eyebrows are. I tried the demo and the effect is just too strong for me. Dunno if I'm messed up in the head or just too sensitive to this stuff.
honestly the game looks better in handheld than docked and is in no way comparable to Xenoblade 2 which looked real bad in handheld mode
the UI being native res and the extreme depth a field go a long way. for me it's one of the best looking Switch games out.
I honestly would not have guessed this was not native undocked, wow. Goes to show you how well good execution can mask for technical deficiencies!
DF Switch threads are a chore to read in general. It doesn't matter how positive DF is about the game people will turn the thread into a conversation about two numbers.
BINGO!!! Please please please Square, revive Tactics with this art style / aesthetic!!!
Digital Foundry seem to have made an effort of saving the resolution and frame rate portions until the end of their analysis to combat this.
It's IQ in handheld is far better than XC2 due to being a higher res and not having that awful sharpening filter that Xeno has.
