The UI being 720p even in docked mode is weird, given that having separate UI and gameplay resolutions is very easy in UE4. I guess they just didn't bother to create 1080p UI assets, for some reason.
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Digital Foundry vs Octopath Traveler: a 90s-style JPRG brought to life with cutting-edge tech
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It has a lot of heavy effects playing in the screen even if the resolution is lower than "expected" (well most games on Switch has this "issues" because people expect more than what it was made to).
I don't like blurry IQ but it is fine docked and it is not something dealbreaker in portable too.
As if native 720p is really an issue with this type of game.
Also, the fucking clickbait Fortnite engine title, smh.
Also, the fucking clickbait Fortnite engine title, smh.
That beautiful style at work man. Can't beat stylized graphics. So glad the days of grey realistic style for every game during the PS360 era are gone. Seriously felt like a time void of creativity when it came to art.
Love the look of this game. I really enjoyed the demo. Waiting for a price drop before I dive in!
The only thing I really hate is the camera moving in battle. The rest I don't mind at all. The game looks super great. 3D was overrated in the 90s.
I didn't notice all the lights are dynamically rendered. It's bollocks. And the resolution issue is not a problem at all: I have a PC for big expensive games. No need for nitpicking. I love having something different for a different console.
I didn't notice all the lights are dynamically rendered. It's bollocks. And the resolution issue is not a problem at all: I have a PC for big expensive games. No need for nitpicking. I love having something different for a different console.
Yes, it does even more. It's called pixel accurate. Pixel art hates upscaling unless it's nearest neighbour.
*Puts game in*
Wow this looks beautiful
*Watches digital foundry video*
What an ugly game!
I've played almost 20 hours in portable mode and would not have guessed that it's sub native, the pixel art textures hide it well I guess.
there won't be performance issues, and the UI is native res in both modes.. so parts of the image will still look crisp.. just not the rendered stuff.
The game's 2D HD style really shines when docked, but I admit I was a little disappointed when I tried it handheld and noticed the fuzziness and had difficulty seeing dungeon paths that somehow seem clear as day on my TV.
Still, loving the game. I geeked out last night when I found my first shrine.
Still, loving the game. I geeked out last night when I found my first shrine.
I honestly think the incredible artstyle makes it worth more.
UE4. They can get some really neat visual effects with little effort on their end, but it's a heavyweight engine and brings in a lot of performance overhead with it.
But it is. 2D or pixel art titles are the one requiring even more attention to native res and upscaling methods.
So the game is 720p docked and 576p handheld. That makes for a difference from native of 360ps in docked and 144ps in handheld. Add those together and we get a total difference of 504p
Now, considering more graphics = more value we can safely convert those 504ps into dimes, subtract that from the $60 asking price and get the game's real value of...
$9.60.
Seriously, Square Enix? You're charging $60 for a game that should be less than $10? Preorder cancelled.
Now, considering more graphics = more value we can safely convert those 504ps into dimes, subtract that from the $60 asking price and get the game's real value of...
$9.60.
Seriously, Square Enix? You're charging $60 for a game that should be less than $10? Preorder cancelled.
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Great man, don't play the game and just go on forums to complain about it.
I'll be enjoying what will probably be the RPG of the year and won't let other shit like an exact resolution get in the way of what is a wonderful game.
With framepacing issues, so not really. But that's a matter of perspective, i guess.
Also, there's a ton of advanced graphical effects going on in the background. (highly detailed 3D animation with really good shaders)
Yeah I had to stop playing the demo in handheld because it looked bad
The game looks great on my 4k tv. 720p 3d games on the other hand look like garbage.
Beautiful, beautiful game. I've been playing for many hours and honestly had no idea about the resolution docked or in handheld. Doesn't matter. Let the whiners whine, and let those who actually own and play the game keep playing.
I'm happy that Octopath has already seen great success in the West and abroad. Square's gamble paid off big time, and I hope it leads to more projects like this one, with considerably larger budgets. The whole dev and production team deserve a lot of praise.
Great video from Digital Foundry as always.
I'm happy that Octopath has already seen great success in the West and abroad. Square's gamble paid off big time, and I hope it leads to more projects like this one, with considerably larger budgets. The whole dev and production team deserve a lot of praise.
Great video from Digital Foundry as always.
I agree up to a point. I appreciate the intent here, but they went overboard with the visual effects. Like you said, it's like they're hiding their assets. Then again, I don't really the "tile art" in this game that much. The best looking aspect of the game for me are the monster sprites, which are nice, but filled with jittering artifacts during battle. It's kind of a flawed-looking game to me. This "aesthetic" could use another run with an improved, more sensible and subdued visual direction.
UE4 can be a demanding engine. Also why it only runs at 30fps.
Let people assess the value of video games as they see fit. Who are you to judge?
Edit: whoops, reading error on my part. I missed the key word "didn't."
My bad. Carry on.
I didn't see one screen of the game where it wasn't super obvious actually.
People need someone to tell them what they should think and how they should feel. I didn't hear any complaints before
Lol, but wouldn't it be the same if he said did? Let people decide the value of a game themselves. I think it's ridiculous to think that this game isn't worth $60 but who am I to judge?
Before this article people didn't even know the resolution... Now... OMG the res is to low.... The framepacing in a almost stactic combat system is ruining the game... Lol.
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Listen, I'm loving Octopath Traveler, but come the fuck on. How in the world does this game not achieve at least native res in both docked and handheld at a mere 30fps? I mean, how? HOW does that happen?
This game's very, very low-res sprites, low-res textures, and low-poly environments should allow for faultless 60fps at 1080p docked and 720p undocked no problem at all. I mean, shit. The enemy sprites during combat don't even have any frames of animation whatsoever! Some depth of field blur and lighting effects thrown into the mix should not be anywhere near enough to make this game struggle on Switch's hardware.
This is some all-time shitty optimization here, with regard to UE4 on Switch.
This game's very, very low-res sprites, low-res textures, and low-poly environments should allow for faultless 60fps at 1080p docked and 720p undocked no problem at all. I mean, shit. The enemy sprites during combat don't even have any frames of animation whatsoever! Some depth of field blur and lighting effects thrown into the mix should not be anywhere near enough to make this game struggle on Switch's hardware.
This is some all-time shitty optimization here, with regard to UE4 on Switch.
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if you watch the video or read the article, you'll understand why
And maybe they'll be able to optimize it through updates, but come the fuck on, before this video did it really hamper your enjoyment of the game?
Yeah it was pretty clear at times that it was below 1080p, doesn't stop the game from being absolutely gorgeous though.
great video
Square absolutely nailed the look. they found the perfect balance of when to go retro and when to use modern techniques. like the pixel textures on the flags but the actual physics of it waving in the wind. take that vs. some of the smaller foliage in the foreground and background that's 2D and has like 2 different animation frames that it switches to every second or two to really send home that stop motion look. and the characters actually being a physical 2D cutout that moves around the world so they cast accurate shadows is so good. this game is a looker in motion. and the effects during battles are amazing. triggering each boost point feels really good with that burst of light each time (and the hd rumble) and then executing a boosted move, having that big explosion, and then having the enemy burst into smoke and fizzle away is really great.
can't praise the graphics and art style enough in this game, it's just perfect
Square absolutely nailed the look. they found the perfect balance of when to go retro and when to use modern techniques. like the pixel textures on the flags but the actual physics of it waving in the wind. take that vs. some of the smaller foliage in the foreground and background that's 2D and has like 2 different animation frames that it switches to every second or two to really send home that stop motion look. and the characters actually being a physical 2D cutout that moves around the world so they cast accurate shadows is so good. this game is a looker in motion. and the effects during battles are amazing. triggering each boost point feels really good with that burst of light each time (and the hd rumble) and then executing a boosted move, having that big explosion, and then having the enemy burst into smoke and fizzle away is really great.
can't praise the graphics and art style enough in this game, it's just perfect
Yeah, it definitely depends on your own preferences. Both games do an absolutely stellar job of art direction, but the approaches are extremely different. It's like say pitting Okami against Breath of the Wild.
I burst out laughing at work, thanks for that you'ce made my day :)