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IGN: How Octopath Traveler Became Such A Big Hit
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Yeah, I also feel that it's quite early when we don't have any number for it. They're doing that based on nothing.
Yup, that's one of it's problems. The people at Tokyo RPG Factory needs to observe the success of Octopath and what it did right to make their future games.
That's quite difficult but yeah, all of them should. Nintendo is reaching that point with almost all of their releases now being WW and others too, but some still don't have such thing.
Yup, exactly it. And it's doing well for them since for the majority of the titles published by Nintendo in the west, most of were a success
It's not that they can't do it since they do for their other releases, it's probably some kind of deal between them.
At least from BD11 you can expect more titles (they're the ones who did Octopath). But also titles from other divisions of Square and other companies too.
There is also an assumption that a Western published FPS will sell better on the XboxOne than a Nintendo machine. Or on a playstion than a Nintendo machine.
Those are assumptions...but they are true. :P
A jrpg with SNES throwback aesthetics is a genre that sells better on a modern day Nintendo machine than a modern day PlayStation or Xbox machine. Absolutely.
Sure, it's my assumption....but I'm telling you it wouldn't get this reception if it were an XboxOne exclusive lol.
Being portable is just icing on the cake.
This game wouldn't have been AS well received on the Wii U in 2016 either, tbh.
SE had no intention of releasing BD in the west. It was made strictly for Japanese tastes. They didn't think anybody in the West would want to play it. Nintendo stepped in and said "don't be stupid", and brought it over.
And they swear there is no DLC/withheld content and this is a complete game.
Projects as fucking well-done like this deserve wild success.
DLC and withheld content is vastly different I honestly wish there's more jobs for dlc etc
"You might have noticed that at one point Square Enix tried to make games for the whole world - not just for the Japanese market. We tried to make global games for everyone. On the opposite side, though, with Bravely Default - we really thought it'd just be for Japanese people. But when it was released, Nintendo got in touch and said many players outside of Japan would like to play the game. So what could we do? Together we released a game, even though at first we had no intention of selling it outside of Japan. Finally, it did well! The sales were good outside of Japan."
That's what the Producer said.
I don't know, I fuck with the whole map pretty much. I'm in the middle of the chapter twos so maybe it changes but there's a lot of variance in the environments (grass with dirt paths, grass with stone paths, all grass, all slate color stone rocky areas, red clay cliffs, desert, snow, beach and water, grassy with creeks/rivers, forests) the foreground background stuff is neat to find chests, there are areas to uncover with the shrines and dungeons, I found a nice balance between a bunch of narrow paths and wide open areas (for wider areas the early desert next to prim's town, there's a nice grassy hill area where you can walk all over the hills between a chapter 1 and 2 town, there's a snow area on the way to prim's chapter 2) I also did find some nice verticality with the cliftlands and how that whole area is set up with the two sides, gap, and multiple bridges across and paths down each side, and bolderfall with it's 2 screen set up with the top being on top of the cliff and the bottom screen being an area nestled under. I also got to stonegard recently which is set up on an incline.
it's really hitting with me in that aspect. it also really helps that it's got this great diorama stop motion sort of look so it honestly looks nice to just see the game in motion, move the characters, see the shadows of what look like 2D cutouts in a 3D world, the lighting on everything and the little twinkles with the light on the sand, snow, and water
You're a little farther than me so I haven't seen as much, so it could change.
I think the mapping is great. It's pretty and gives a sense a space really well. For instance descending into the canyon like area in Bolderfall and finding a cave.
I'm saying you are pretty much just running and finding treasure.
If someone was expecting puzzles or different ways of interacting to break things up., that'd be a miss.
all about expectations or whatever.
The fact that Nintendo published it helped it immensely and gave the game positive and mass-appeal image since its reveal.
This definitely contributed to the final reviews and impressions the game ended up getting.
If the game was solely published by SquareEnix I am sure the amount of discussion this game is getting is just the same as another obscure JRPG.
This definitely contributed to the final reviews and impressions the game ended up getting.
If the game was solely published by SquareEnix I am sure the amount of discussion this game is getting is just the same as another obscure JRPG.
Alternatively, it means those games wouldn't come over without Nintendo having to publish and market them for Square each time.
When was the last time Square published any physical game on a Nintendo system in the west? even DQ Builders was published by Nintendo.
Oh yes, i love how Switch audience is treating JRPGs almost as AAA releases (as it should be), i bought the system for these games.
Also Octopath Traveler is such a fantastic game, i'm really enjoying the combat so far.
Also Octopath Traveler is such a fantastic game, i'm really enjoying the combat so far.
It is assumption, but over the years haunting these forums, I certainly picked up the sentiment that certain types of games were preferred if they were able to be taken mobile. This is from Vita too.
It isn't a slight against the system, it is kind of like saying RTS games do better on PC. I certainly found games that languished in a Steam backlog were suddenly unlocked by being on a portable platform.
Just off the top of my head, they published Final Fantasy Explorers, Theathrythm, and Lost Sphere. None of them were particularly ambitious games, or well marketed.
The fact is, if Nintendo needs to publish every Square Enix game on their platform in the West, it means Square—a company perfectly capable of publishing these games themselves—is not willing to do so themselves. This then means that either:
a) Nintendo are extending a helping hand to strengthen their relationship with Square Enix (and yet, Final Fantasy games curiously continue to avoid Nintendo platforms)
b) Square does not have enough faith in their AA games to self-publish and market them in the USA/Europe themselves
Frankly, I'm surprised games like SaGa Scarlet Grace and Octopath Traveler were developed at all, given Square's recent history with their AA titles.b) Square does not have enough faith in their AA games to self-publish and market them in the USA/Europe themselves
Also, I maintain a thread of quotes from Square Enix regarding their approach to AA, but until we see more of a push in this space, it continues to be a bunch of promises and not much else.
I'd say SE just doesn't think it's worth putting money to publish OT according to their projection for the game.
Meaning it's not as easy/cheap to do simultaneous worldwide release as many people here believe.
User Warned: Console War post.
For me, it's because everything else is a port of 2 year old indie games. Oh, and it reminds me of SaGa.
I bought the Switch for exclusives, not lazy ports brought on by the annoying, begging userbase.
I bought the Switch for exclusives, not lazy ports brought on by the annoying, begging userbase.
This game doesn't look like it came from the snes era that's for sure
Getting through the incredibly slow start of each character is worth the effort so they deserve the praise.
I actually hope that Square-Enix sees this success and further invests on Switch. I'd personally love to see updated remakes of Dragon Quest 3 and Final Fantasy 6 done in a similar style as Octopath on Switch.
Like how Square Enix saw the success Bravely Default had and then further invested in it by lowering the budget? Lol.
This game is pushing me to get a Switch already. I was happy waiting until the new Fire Emblem or Pokemon came out but I just want to play this now.
Or you know they could keep making brand new games for Switch
Because Square only has so many resources and it's not easy to do both. If I had to pick one over the over I want brand new games like Octopath. Finally, a high quality game from Square is what I want.
I think it's less that it looks old/new and more that the '2D/HD' effect looks unique to RPG fans that can tell the difference.
Yeah, but green-lighting entirely new productions en masse is much more costly and much harder to do than sequels and remakes, thus I think it's largely reasonable, especially given their track record, to expect some number of remakes to capitalize on this success. Thus, I think it's perfectly acceptable to hope for the remakes I'd like to see.
I feel everyone should hope for more of this on Switch. Everyone should be optimistic.
Even some EB Games in New Zealand don't have physical copies anymore, and we don't usually run out of gaming related things.
Great game, I'm grateful I managed to get a copy on day 1 without a pre-ordering.
Great game, I'm grateful I managed to get a copy on day 1 without a pre-ordering.
While your assumptions intuitively make sense to me, this forum is a terrible place to get a read on the market. We're a massive bubble that regularly gets it wrong, to an almost comical extent
Maybe it's because turn based RPG's are the perfect genre for the Switch?
As far as I'm concerned, I only use my pro controller. Don't really like playing real time action titles like Zelda or Odyssey in handheld mode, because my hands are too big for those tiny joycon buttons & triggers.
In turn based combat games this isn't really and issue because I can take my time and don't have to perform complicated moves.
Moreover, I can out my Switch to sleep and jump right back into battle.
As far as I'm concerned, I only use my pro controller. Don't really like playing real time action titles like Zelda or Odyssey in handheld mode, because my hands are too big for those tiny joycon buttons & triggers.
In turn based combat games this isn't really and issue because I can take my time and don't have to perform complicated moves.
Moreover, I can out my Switch to sleep and jump right back into battle.
Yeah... Lost Sphere aside (it didn't have a physical release right?) those are old. and not only SE, other Japanese publishers avoided publishing physical games on the Switch in Europe (like RE Revelations Collection).
a) Correct. I think Nintendo also prefer to publish those games and keep them exclusive. they seem to me more focused on that than having multi-platform games from those companies (even for big titles).
b) they published a lot of smaller titles on PlayStation physically themselves in US and EU though. I think they just think their games don't sell that well on a Nintendo platform.
I also think that Octopath Traveler was developed because Nintendo wanted an exclusive rpg game from Square that is reminiscent of the SNES era , there was a focus for Nintendo on bringing games that invoke nostalgia with the Switch.
I wonder if they will give the Bravely series another shot now.
Is it? Please tell me more! I want to like this game but the beginning is crazy slow. It is like they did the traditional slow start of an RPG times 8. And when is the combat becoming interesting?
It depends on which character you choose to start, with Olberich you're being thrown into battles early on.
Gaming journalism can be weird sometimes. Im sure the game is selling well and I expect this game to sell way above 1 million but we dont have any concrete numbers for anything. The only thing we have is that it charted high everywhere and that its sold out but we have no clue about the initial shipment.
On the positive side, I do like how the game is getting good word of mouth and good press. Will help the game sell well.
On the positive side, I do like how the game is getting good word of mouth and good press. Will help the game sell well.
It did. I own the physical release of it. You're thinking of I Am Setsuna, which only had a physical release in Asia.