Because it's a free service. Once you're forced to pay for it obviously that kind of basic functionality will be included... oh wait.
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Why can't I interact with people on my friend list on switch?
- Thread starter Chief Malik
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thats not an issue i have had ever XD but to each their own... i usually use a hands-free for the phone chat group for convenience and the switch with its normal sound... i can assure you that it filters ambient noise.
if im in need to use a headset usually means i shouldnt be making noise/talking in the first place...
and thats actually what the switch online app is supossed to do. unify on the app the social interactions (even if is shitty at the moment). yes, is not on the platform, but i actually prefer it that way. (even more so as a parent)
the point anyway is that you dont need BOTH at the same time... you can have ingame voice chat perfectly right now, with no problems of headsets or whatever... but you dont use the switch to meet with people, thats what they are trying to avoid.
i know im in the minority here, but i actually understand the reasons why they are doing it, and i think its worth it. its actually one of the few instances where "for the children" actually works as a reason
we are overconected. we have smarthphones, smartwatchs/bands, you have the switch... do you actually need everything talking at the same time? if you can transfer some routines to another device that usually does that function, i actually think its a good idead. you dont need to waste resources in that, and for the normal user actually its better in the end.
i dont need to have chat on my watch, is redundant. i chat on the phone. the same for my switch..
now, if we are talking about how shitty is the app? thats true xd
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No it's not worth it and using "vulnerable children" is a very weak argument.
How anyone can defend a lack of interacting with people on your friend's list?
This should be a no brainer for any game system.
This should be a no brainer for any game system.
Even as a free service as it currently stands. It's so fucking bare bones. It's a (fairly) new console a year into it's life and it's not even got the basic ass basic features. Quite unacceptable when you think about it.
I'm all for having a messaging ability on the Switch but "vulnerable children" is a 100% valid argument when it comes to Nintendo.
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If you're using the Nintendo app for voice chat, yeah. There's no text chat from the Switch itself. Alternatively, you could request their social media or Discord info.
It's certainly dumb imo. Its nice to see what your friends are playing so its not useless but with no messaging or invite system it really is lacklustre. The fact I'm gonna pay for this bullshit lmao.
you wouldn't be forced to use it
have you ever played on a system that has voice chat in games? you can easily mute people
It's unfortunate how behind Nintendo is in this regard. My 7 year old asked me last night for a phone so he can communicate with his friend, and ask him to play minecraft with him. I felt bad because I dont have the kids parents phone number and had to explain to him that the Nintendo doesn't have a way to communicate with others.
Does Nintendo worry kids will just accept friend requests from those they really shouldn't? Perhaps Nintendo should just have an added level of security and attach a credit card or something that can be used as granting permission to that account and a way to make sure there is some way to remove the anonymity of who these people are online.
Online games need some form of privacy while also allowing them to go after the trouble makers online. I'm not sure how you do that in any impactful way.
Online games need some form of privacy while also allowing them to go after the trouble makers online. I'm not sure how you do that in any impactful way.
They kind of did, they charged me .50 cents to create children account for my kids.
At the very least, they should offer inviting friends to join you in games. At the moment, the friends list is just that.
The "think of the children" argument doesn't make much sense when you look at the breakdown of Switch users.
User Banned (1 week): Continued pattern of system warring.
Not surprised to see the usual Nintendo defense force assemble. It's no wonder why they don't bother adding basic features every console should have. Y'all will have their back regardless.
It's so baffling that I can find one incredibly rare lag-free connection with someone on street fighter 30th anniversary, then they can send me a friend invite... however we can't then invite each other to a match on street fighter. We can't message each other either. All we can do is start a private friend room and hope that the other person searches for friend rooms at that moment.
It's SO useless and separated from interaction that it's like it's purposefully created to just annoy you.
It's SO useless and separated from interaction that it's like it's purposefully created to just annoy you.
Heck I get that people are saying that you can use a hand full of other services... Ok, but all I'm asking for here is a button on my friends list that gives me a few options such as "Let's play (Game)!" And have that ping their Switch and if they have the app installed ping that too... Add in a few badic replies like, "Not available" or "Be on in 'x' minutes" and maybe a way to join someone's game from the friend list... Like that's the bare minimum I expect from the possible September update but even that seems like it's too much trouble for Nintendo... I love the company, I love the games, but man... I don't know how anyone can just say that they shouldn't add this kinda thing in. I get it if you don't want it and won't use it... But you have to see the value in it for those that would use it! Also while we're at it why in the world doesn't Splatoon have more commands for the d-pad? "This way" is the only useful one of the two and they could at least put like two more such as "Go for the objective" or "fall back" Nintendo is just so mind bogglingly backwards when it comes to online. I keep telling my friend who asks about Splatoon, the worst part is that it's a Nintendo Online game.
Dont post that outdated chart again.
The "think of the children" argument doesn't make much sense when you look at the breakdown of Switch users.
That's still a poor excuse when thier last couple systems and handheld had basic communication features. Predators can be anywhere at anytime - it's upto the parents to control and regulate what thier child is doing.
Calling Nintendo behind the times when it's obvious they made a conscious decision to NOT include it seems weird. They aren't behind anything, they just don't care. The Wii U social aspect was the best they ever implemented, and the system bombed. For some reason, they felt that it didn't add anything of value to their platforms and scrapped it I assume.
I don't agree with the way it is now, its function is only on a software level (you can invite friends in the games you're playing), as well as the online app.
For those of you didn't do the Splatoon 2/app combo, I can explain to you what Nintendo is attempting here.
When you play Splatoon 2, and you invite a friend, you actually get an invite via push notification on your phone/mobile device, and your switch does not have to be on to get it.
If this is how the app works with all the games, I'm total for it. If they enable group (text) chat inside the app as well, without being in game, I'm ok with the system itself not having it.
In a perfect world it should be in both. But.. Nintendo I guess lol.
I don't agree with the way it is now, its function is only on a software level (you can invite friends in the games you're playing), as well as the online app.
For those of you didn't do the Splatoon 2/app combo, I can explain to you what Nintendo is attempting here.
When you play Splatoon 2, and you invite a friend, you actually get an invite via push notification on your phone/mobile device, and your switch does not have to be on to get it.
If this is how the app works with all the games, I'm total for it. If they enable group (text) chat inside the app as well, without being in game, I'm ok with the system itself not having it.
In a perfect world it should be in both. But.. Nintendo I guess lol.
"Because of its lazer focus on games." That's the ridiculous excuse for every missing feature, as if the absence of features is in itself a feature.
The Switch experience outside of games continues to be woefully half baked.
The Switch experience outside of games continues to be woefully half baked.
What thread are you looking at exactly? Everyone has said it's dumb. There's no defense. Just looking to drop that stupid line, huh? Now you move on...
How can you possibly claim with a straight face that using a separate messenger app is more convenient than having chat integrated into the console?
It's not just a ridiculous opinion, it's objectively false... ergo mental gymnastics.
Whether you personally see the value or not of integrated voice chat and other social functions on Switch is pretty irrelevant. As it's clearly has value to gamers at large, given the sheer popularity of MP games that use the functionality on other platforms.
You're also measuring the value of it on Switch based on a perceived existing lack of need, where the lack of meaningful implementation in Switch games is a direct result of the lack of platform software feature fubctionality in first place, and not the other way around.
Voice chat isn't useless on the Switch because of anything inherent to the Switch and its games, it's useless because the feature implementation is so arse backwards that devs can't be bothered to makr any meaningful use of it.
Had the console launched with social interactivity functionality on par with Nintendo's competitors, the games would have been made to exploit them (and to significant benefit I might add).
This is honestly bizzarre...
There's nothing inherent to voice chat implementation that means it absolutely has to have a deleterous effect on UI or anything else for that matter. Also, I've never played a single online game on PS4 or PC where chat is "forced" on players, so I have no idea where that's coming from.
Honestly, these posts just seem like blind defence for Nintendo.
Clearly, there's no tenable rational argument against a proper implementation of online chat and social features on Nintendo consoles. They would provide more options and possibilities for games developers and all round more fun for gamers. They're almost never forced on users, and in the few cases where games are designed to be dependent on player co-ordination, if as a gamer you're not interested you can simply choose not to buy the game.
Arguing that a platform feature that is 100% net positive, with no drawbacks to gamers, Nintendo or developers, is not needed just because Nintendo doesn't already have it just isn't at all rational.
I had no idea you could not message friends on Switch. Like, what is the point then?
And they want you to pay for this?
And they want you to pay for this?
The "think of the children" argument doesn't make much sense when you look at the breakdown of Switch users.
It actually does when looking at the Japanese market, which I assume nintendo still derives a number of their decisions from.
Because Switch is a rushed product from the OS perspective, what's more shocking is that it's still not implemented after a year. Nintendo is really incompetent outside of software development, they're probably gonna roll it out along with their online subscription.
Sadly because Nintendo fans (myself included) will buy it anyway. No reason to take the risks or put in the effort associated with features like communication, a web browser or media apps when the customer will accept less and buy it regardless.
While it's quite unfortunate, I wouldn't say adding friends is pointless. I LOVE looking at their playtimes for games and competing with them to have higher playtimes. Every time I finish a session, I load up my friends list and see who is playing what and for how long.
It's not system wide achievements, but I'll take what I can get!
It's not system wide achievements, but I'll take what I can get!
People defending Nintendo are just hand waving it because they probably dont have children and are not exposed it's downfalls.
I dont want to purchase a phone for my 7 and 6 year old to play online and communicate with their friends. I created a child account for both my boys, so I can grant permission for them to add friends. It would be easy for Nintendo to add speak to friends list only, so the arguement "for the kids" is not going to hold up with me.
I dont want to purchase a phone for my 7 and 6 year old to play online and communicate with their friends. I created a child account for both my boys, so I can grant permission for them to add friends. It would be easy for Nintendo to add speak to friends list only, so the arguement "for the kids" is not going to hold up with me.