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catpurrcat

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Any word on when we'll see the full original soundtrack (4 CD's apparently) up on itunes or other digital service?
 

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Hell just changing a characters subclass has a dramatic effect on how they function in combat, this doesn't even factor the speed boost from defence, the break and burst mechanics.
Seriously. Making Tressa a Hunter and giving (or stealing...) her good equipment elevates her from pure utility to a BP sharing, money collecting, shield breaking, physical damage beast.
 

Zedark

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Here's my team (I'm doing a playthrough with currently only 4 of the characters, currently 21 hours in and finished all chapter 2 stories):

- Cyrus (Scholar/Cleric): I chose to give Cyrus the secondary job of Cleric, as that's a job that requires a large pool of SP. One of the support skills from the cleric job also allows Cyrus to function better and longer (not spoiling the exact one, but you know which one it is from the description). I often use his magic less regularly than I do the moves of a warrior, so having him double for healer and black mage is a great combination imo.

- Olberic (Warrior): I haven't chosen a secondary job for Olberic yet. I need to do some research on the two remaining classes I haven't yet looked into (Apothecary and Merchant).

- Primrose (Dancer/Hunter): I chose to make Primrose a hunter so she could supply the added benefits of the bow and axe weapons. Furthermore, having additional lightning magic is useful, too. Her dancer skills remain the focus for Primrose, and especially the boost skills help a ton in boss battles.

- Therion (Thief/Warrior): I chose warrior as a second class because it allows for a double whammy of physical offensive play, and allows you to do major damage to any enemy on any turn with the warrior's cross strike.

I chose this party because the combination of Therion/Olberic gives a strong offensive front that can do loads of damage, while Primrose can help in quickly taking down break barriers with her multitude of different weapons, as well as provide stat boosts to the party. Cyrus, then, can focus on healing and delivering critical damage to stunned enemies with his powerful magic. His wide range of magic (fire, frost, lightning and light) further allow Cyrus to help in quickly taking down the enemy's break counter, especially now that he has a high SP pool and magic that can strike twice in a single attack.

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(The party above has Olberic with a Merchant class as second job. Would work well, as it covers the last weakness I hadn't covered, i.e. wind, and doubles the bow weakness, which I find occurs quite regularly. Also, one of the merchant support skills aids in the spamming of warrior skills.)
 
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Razmos

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What's the best way to level up characters? My main 4 (Cyrus, Tressa, Olberic and Ophilia) are nearly level 30 while the other 4 are stuck at around level 11 and I kinda need to level them up for their chapter 2's lol
 

Firemind

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Oct 25, 2017
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What's the best way to level up characters? My main 4 (Cyrus, Tressa, Olberic and Ophilia) are nearly level 30 while the other 4 are stuck at around level 11 and I kinda need to level them up for their chapter 2's lol
Do you need to? Just use three others to carry him/her through the chapter lol
 

Nose Master

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is it necessary to pick up all the characters before you go on. I'm five hours in, got three characters, and honestly this is so boring I don't know how much longer I'm gonna bother.

What's the fuss about? I hate the vulnerability system in battles, slows everything down when I have to figure out every new enemy's weaknesses all the time. Think I'm starting to grow away from the whole random+turn based battles thing. It's wearing on my patience.

Nah, you only really need four. I would heavily recommend Cyrus, though. His first equippable skill reduces the encounter rate by quite a bit. It's wayyy too high without it, imo.
 

Gobias-Ind

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Nov 22, 2017
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Moved on to chapter 2 (H'aanit) after getting all 8 characters and finding all of the chapter 2 towns.

The difficulty jump is real. I'm fighting tooth and nail and running out of these damn items just to stay alive lol. Got a little too comfortable rolling through enemies and toying around with Primrose's Bewildering Grace.
 

Delio

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Oct 25, 2017
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Im thinking of running two Black Mages (Cyrus and Subclassing Tressa) Having both tossing out large AOE spells seems great. With Olberic tanking i wonder who i can slot in as a fourth.
 

Zedark

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Moved on to chapter 2 (H'aanit) after getting all 8 characters and finding all of the chapter 2 towns.

The difficulty jump is real. I'm fighting tooth and nail and running out of these damn items just to stay alive lol. Got a little too comfortable rolling through enemies and toying around with Primrose's Bewildering Grace.
Yeah, your first Chapter 2 boss is going to be really tough. I found that that first chapter 2 boss really taught me to pay close attention to my every move, and I feel I really learned how to effectively play the game in that battle. The next Chapter 2 bosses were a lot easier after that, despite not being overlevelled or anything.
 

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Im thinking of running two Black Mages (Cyrus and Subclassing Tressa) Having both tossing out large AOE spells seems great. With Olberic tanking i wonder who i can slot in as a fourth.
This is exactly what I did, plus Ophilia to heal. Give Cyrus thief abilities for debuffs and Ophilia dancer abilities for buffs and you'll steamroll bosses.
 

Disclaimer

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Oct 25, 2017
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What's the best way to level up characters? My main 4 (Cyrus, Tressa, Olberic and Ophilia) are nearly level 30 while the other 4 are stuck at around level 11 and I kinda need to level them up for their chapter 2's lol

So, I've just done this, and low level characters aren't dead weight as long as you have good gear. My mains are ~27, and I just did Cyrus' CH2 with him beginning at 6, and he pulled his weight fine damage-wise.

Gear >>>>> Levels, statistically. The main advantage levels provide is HP, but evasion gear can mitigate that.
 

Meelow

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Oct 31, 2017
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The last time I played a game this much in a short time frame was BOTW, this is becoming one of my favorite RPG's
 

Starphanluke

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Current party is:

H'aanit as a Huntress and a Dancer, Lv. 22
Alfyn as Apothecary and Scholar, Lv. 21
Therion as a Thief, Lv. 21
and Tressa as a Merchant and Cleric, Lv. 16 (she's the interchangeable member)

Going to start diving into Chapter 2s! Loving this game!
 

Opa-Pa

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Oct 25, 2017
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One thing I find annoying is that you can't give the bench party any equipment without putting them in your main one first. Though I guess it's better to ignore them until I actually want to use them so I don't waste money.
 

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One thing I find annoying is that you can't give the bench party any equipment without putting them in your main one first. Though I guess it's better to ignore them until I actually want to use them so I don't waste money.
you can do it from the tavern... but might as well be the same thing lol
 

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One thing I find annoying is that you can't give the bench party any equipment without putting them in your main one first. Though I guess it's better to ignore them until I actually want to use them so I don't waste money.
I think you can equip them at the Tavern without placing them into your party but yeah, it kinda blows.
 

AlanOC91

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Jesus chapter 2 bosses are tough. Got my first game over and had his HP bar in red too :(
 

PhazonBlazer

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I will say, this game has me really craving DQ11. If only we knew when the Switch version would be out.
 

Zedark

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This is exactly what I did, plus Ophilia to heal. Give Cyrus thief abilities for debuffs and Ophilia dancer abilities for buffs and you'll steamroll bosses.
I have a slightly different setup that steamrolls enemies quite effectively as well, at least up to and including the chapter 2 bosses. I'm spoilertagging it because I don't want to spoil the skills for other people, but I'm curious what you think of this setup:
The Warrior skill Brand's Thunder is extremely powerful: using it against the Black Knight in Olberic's chapter 2 with applied buffs for Olberic and debuffs for the Black Knight allowed me to take down almost half his health with a single attack. I find that preparing for that is easier than for buffing a black mage with the skill that focuses all attacks into a single attack (forgot the name), applying the correct buffs and debuffs, and attacking the boss within his stun period (the latter part is the most unwieldy imo: getting the power skill applied, and boosting the magic attack as big as possible requires you to either time very well or make sure you get to have an extra turn in between the moment you break the boss and the moment you unleash hell on them).

To me, at least, preparing the Brand's Thunder on Olberic and Therion (both have the warrior job) feels easier to manage in battle than boosting the magic attacks. I use Therion's Armor Corrosive to apply the physical defense debuff and Primrose's Lion Dance and/or the warrior's own Abide skill to buff the physical attack for both warriors.
 

Kawika

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I am kind of paralyzed here. I played the demo a few times and my favorite main was Haanit. I love the hunter but I am wondering based on what people are saying if melee class all that viable after all. Tressa is my second choice. I am just wondering if those of you picked Tressa or Haanit have any regrets? I played the demo with all the characters and those two characters spoke to me the most. I know I can have any character in my party, but what character will never be a wasted slot? I just need a push over the edge so I can start on my adventure.
 

Disclaimer

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am kind of paralyzed here. I played the demo a few times and my favorite main was Haanit. I love the hunter but I am wondering based on what people are saying if melee class all that viable after all. Tressa is my second choice. I am just wondering if those of you picked Tressa or Haanit have any regrets? I played the demo with all the characters and those two characters spoke to me the most. I know I can have any character in my party, but what character will never be a wasted slot? I just need a push over the edge so I can start on my adventure.

H'aanit's taming is extremely powerful. Don't worry; pick your favorite.
 

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I have a slightly different setup that steamrolls enemies quite effectively as well, at least up to and including the chapter 2 bosses. I'm spoilertagging it because I don't want to spoil the skills for other people, but I'm curious what you think of this setup:
The Warrior skill Brand's Thunder is extremely powerful: using it against the Black Knight in Olberic's chapter 2 with applied buffs for Olberic and debuffs for the Black Knight allowed me to take down almost half his health with a single attack. I find that preparing for that is easier than for buffing a black mage with the skill that focuses all attacks into a single attack (forgot the name), applying the correct buffs and debuffs, and attacking the boss within his stun period (the latter part is the most unwieldy imo: getting the power skill applied, and boosting the magic attack as big as possible requires you to either time very well or make sure you get to have an extra turn in between the moment you break the boss and the moment you unleash hell on them).

To me, at least, preparing the Brand's Thunder on Olberic and Therion (both have the warrior job) feels easier to manage in battle than boosting the magic attacks. I use Therion's Armor Corrosive to apply the physical defense debuff and Primrose's Lion Dance and/or the warrior's own Abide skill to buff the physical attack for both warriors.
Yeah, Olberic was my main DPS as well thanks to Brand's Thunder and buffs/debuffs (that's how I beat the whole game in 36 hours!), but it's helpful to have two mages to target enemies' weaknesses - you can break a ton of enemies at once and take down 4 elemental shield points without using any BP.
 

Valcrist

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Really loving the game. I also don't mind the fact that each story is self-contained. Not all games need to have the same style of narrative, and I can appreciate the choices made with this game. Honestly more than anything though, the music steals the show. I can gush about this soundtrack for days.
 

Apollo

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Overworld sprites not reflecting subjobs is a real bummer. Poor hunter Tressa can't show off her new look.
 

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I just noticed that no matter the theme playing before a chapter boss, there's a segue custom made for each track that transitions into the boss theme.
 

Zedark

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Yeah, Olberic was my main DPS as well thanks to Brand's Thunder and buffs/debuffs (that's how I beat the whole game in 36 hours!), but it's helpful to have two mages to target enemies' weaknesses - you can break a ton of enemies at once and take down 4 elemental shield points without using any BP.
Makes sense. I have given Primrose the hunter as secondary job, so she can target daggers, bows, axes, Dark and Lightning as weaknesses, which I find allows for lowering the break counter of most enemies. Add Cyrus with the double magic attacks, and you have a similar effect to having two mages breaking the enemy.
 

Red

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What does the difficulty level per area represent? I have a level 12 Alfyn as my only character, and I'm getting stomped in a single turn in a level 17 difficulty area. I can't imagine that at level 17 I'll be able to handle this place. How does the area level connect to character level?
 

crazillo

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When who would be best for your party conflicts with who you like the most...

I want to have Alfyn, Olberic, Cyrus and H'aanit in my party, but have not figured out an optimal set-up yet. Cyrus as scholar/cleric and Olberic as warrior/hunter are the only one's fixed, though with H'aanit a hunter as well I'm not sure if I'd better swap her for Tressa but I freaking don't want to. What do you guys think for Alfric as a apothecary/dancer? I also like Primrose a lot, so I could imagine swapping her in for H'aanit.
 
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Duffking

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So I'm running Tressa/Haanit/Cyrus/Ophilia after getting all 8.

Think I might give Ophilia the dancer job for buffs, cyrus the thief for debuffs, tress the warrior for tanking as she seems fairly durable, not sure what for haanit yet though, maybe apothecary.
 

Zedark

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When who would be best for your party conflicts with who you like the most...

I want to have Alfric, Olberic, Cyrus and H'aanit in my party, but have not figured out an optimal set-up yet. Alfric as scholar/cleric and Olberic as warrior/hunter are the only one's fixed, though with H'aanit a hunter as well I'm not sure if I'd better swap her for Tressa but I freaking don't want to. What do you guys think for Alfric as a apothecary/dancer? I also like Primrose a lot, so I could imagine swapping her in for H'aanit.
You're confusing me here. I think you mean Alfyn when you say Alfric. Also, the bolded occurrence of Alfric probably should be Cyrus, right? Cyrus as Scholar/Cleric works great for me, at least. I have a hunter/dancer combo for Primrose (but that could be H'aanit for you), since that gives you a variety of weaknesses covered (daggers, axes, bows, dark and lightning) and gives you a range of boosts from the Dancer job.

In addition, I have a Thief/Warrior combination (Therion) as well as a Warrior/Merchant combination (Olberic, for wind magic and for a specific support skill) to round out my party. This setup allows for major physical damage when you unlock the right warrior skills, and the scholar class as well as the Dancer/Hunter class can quickly lower the break counter together.
 

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Man this game either blew past expectations or they woefully understocked.

Amazon US is now backordered for 1-2 months.