Street Fighter V - Eleague - let’s Go!

Tokido deserved the win, his ability to calmly analyze a game he just played a second ago is one of his strengths, but the break is a bad look no matter how you cut it.

Smug stopped doing v-reversals despite them being such a huge part of his daigo game and almost every loss he took he had a full v-bar, but he literally just did a devil's gauntlet of like 7 consecutive sets against some of the biggest monsters in the game. All possible props to his hot fire run.

Why are some of you so mad at the break? It was like two minutes.

mysteriousmage09 said:

What a load of shit.

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Just because Smug lost? lol Im sure players knew before hand that there would be a break in case of a reset. Smug got downloaded as per usual

i'm glad tokido win but you gotta feel bad for smug
incredibly dumb to have a break there

Two seasons in a row they've fucked up grand finals something fierce. Unreal.

That break killed Smugs momentum thats why people are upset. A break like that only helps the person losing.

LOL man I thought this went Live at 11 PM on TBS. Come in here and see it's over already. Ahh well.

That break was so fucking stupid.

Larfl33ze said:

That break killed Smugs momentum thats why people are upset. A break like that only helps the person losing.

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And what's wrong with that? You're allowed to take breaks in tournaments.

Blueblur said:

That break was so fucking stupid.

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Only because Smug lost you say this, Im sure the players know the rules of the event, if they dont like it they can choose not to participate. No excuses, he lost to the better player as he has proven this year

If the roles were reversed, no one would have complained about the break. I was rooting for Smug as well but blaming it on eleague is pretty absurd.

Tokido has downloaded people in way, way less time though, so I don't really feel like the break was that bad.

Rudiano said:

Only because Smug lost you say this, Im sure the players know the rules of the event, if they dont like it they can choose not to participate. No excuses, he lost to the better player as he has proven this year

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I would have said the same damn thing if it was the other way around, it was ridiculous. Also priorities!



YAY ESPORTS!

Rudiano said:

Only because Smug lost you say this, Im sure the players know the rules of the event, if they dont like it they can choose not to participate. No excuses, he lost to the better player as he has proven this year

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No. There should never be a commercial break when a reset happens no matter who's playing. Even Sajam was acknowledging the error of the break when said all Tokido needed was time (and he said it in a super defeated vocal tone too).

It took them 5 fucking hours for a Top 8 because of all the fucking breaks. They didn't need one after the reset.

As if the players involved matter at all. All you need to ask yourself is what the fuck are people talking about the second the match concludes; if your competition is being run correctly, the answer is nothing but the play in the set. Both seasons they've fucked up the most important point of the tournament.

well it seems like the players knew about the break beforehand

Blueblur said:

No. There should never be a commercial break when a reset happens no matter who's playing. Even Sajam was acknowledging the error of the break when said all Tokido needed was time (and he said it in a super defeated vocal tone too).

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Well if Smug doesnt like a break in between finals, he could have chose not to compete. These players would have known the rules but he still entered. Tokido is known for downloading players, and thats what exactly what happened

Rudiano said:

Well if Smug doesnt like a break in between finals, he could have chose not to compete. These players would have known the rules but he still entered. Tokido is known for downloading players, and thats what exactly what happened

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Jesus.....

Man, fantastic top 8. Congrats to Tokido although i'll forever be a little salty about the break but hey, its part of the business.

mysteriousmage09 said:

Jesus.....

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Just let it go. You dont see Smug complaining about the break as he obviously knew about it, is it that hard to comprehend? if you dont like what E League are doing then dont watch them, and like I said already...you wouldnt be complaining had Smug won, talk about bias lol

Rudiano said:

Just let it go. You dont see Smug complaining about the break as he obviously knew about it, is it that hard to comprehend? if you dont like what E League are doing then dont watch them, and like I said already...you wouldnt be complaining had Smug won, talk about bias lol

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Give me a fucking break. I've cheered for Tokido a multitude of times and was really happy when he won EVO last year. The one being a biased prick right now is you.

mysteriousmage09 said:

Give me a fucking break. I've cheered for Tokido a multitude of times and was really happy when he won EVO last year. The one being a biased prick right now is you.

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"yup, the break was horse shit. fuck eleague." is what you posted when Smug started to lose after the break, and not to mention the SMUGGLES comments lol no need to get angry though, Smug handled the loss like a gentleman, you should to

To be honest, I can't believe a standard timeout (something that happens in all televised sports) is catching this much flak lol.

Last year we were all saying Punk should have taken some time during the EVO finals.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with a break, that's just fucking excuses

I hope someone splices together the two scenarios that Smug was put in twice against Daigo and then Tokido. To meaty or not meaty your opponent on their wake up, that is the question. For 20k extra dollars he chose not to and guessed right. With 110k extra dollars on the line he chose to and paid the price lol.

I just came back from the event and the wife and I had a great time. So did everybody else from the looks of it. I hope they keep doing this because I'll definitely go back next year as well.

The break was a fuck up. Nevermind how that affected the outcome of the set or whatever, but the fact that it's even a point of debate, and that that's one of the main things people will think about and talk about after this tournament—after this multi-week long event with a whole lotta cash behind it—means it was definitely, absolutely not the thing to do.

Compound that with all the breaks that had happened beforehand, and it was just extremely annoying.

That Smug vs Daigo match was legendary.

Not happy about Tokido winning, but the matches in the top 4 were just insane.

Salty about this. Had the free tickets to go but by the time me and my homies pulled up, they were full. Hope it went well tho.

rude said:

Tokido has downloaded people in way, way less time though, so I don't really feel like the break was that bad.

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This , exactly this . And it's not like it's a 30 minutes break .

Japanmanx3 said:

Salty about this. Had the free tickets to go but by the time me and my homies pulled up, they were full. Hope it went well tho.

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That's unfortunate. Without knowing which one you were I probably saw you as I was at the end of that long line that was waiting to go inside. When I was on my phone and not paying any attention my wife said that she saw a mother take her daughter home because it wasn't likely they would get in. The daughter was really sad and cried when they left. That really sucks to hear.

On the other hand it was really great seeing so many young kids there. Not just kids of older players, there were a lot of kids who were genuinely excited to be there because they're fans of the game and the players. There was a single elim tourney before Eleague began. I wish I could have faced one of the kids and gotten a free win. But I faced a decent Blanka player and lost because I was using another person's stick and had a lot of trouble with it. Overall it was a great time though.

wow, it looks like I missed one hell of a controversy. Can you imagine if the same thing happened when the Evo GF is televised on ESPN 2?

This break was akin to being down 6-5, 40-0 and reeling off 3 winners in a row to take it do deuce... "oh sorry, we need to make more cash, wait a few minutes". *commercial break* Tokido serves two aces gg.

Horrible break the destroyed momentum for everybody, just deflating.

Rudiano said:

That was the definition of DOWNLOADED. Tokido did the same to Punk at EVO, has nothing to do with a damn break. Tokido is just a god

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Da hell?

You do know that Smug was in Tokido's position at Evo yeah? Claiming this is just like Evo is completely off base....

If Punk was given a break to regain his composure and had won, yeah you'll have a point.

On my phone dunno how to leave link tweets but AceKingofSuit retweeted a guy saying he asked the producer and Smug knew there would be a break if there was a reset.

i was playing another game while watching top 8. i barely noticed the breaks tbh. i look in here and see that everything is about them, lol. ggs to tokido. best SF player in the world.

LOL @ scrubs bitching about a 2 minute break. That's just a fanboy excuse. If the player wanted they could have taken 2 minutes off anyway without a commercial break by going to the character select screen and stalling to compose themselves. It's nothing about "e-sports is ruining my FGC" drivel.

AAK said:

LOL @ scrubs bitching about a 2 minute break. That's just a fanboy excuse. If the player wanted they could have taken 2 minutes off anyway without a commercial break by going to the character select screen and stalling to compose themselves. It's nothing about "e-sports is ruining my FGC" drivel.

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Scrubs? Players and commentators with years of experience made note of this. People who actually have experience in the scene know the impact this kind of break can have.

• Smug had to beat several of the best players in a row to get to the grand finals, playing in a way he rarely had in SFV until then. He then proceeded to reset the bracket 3 - 0 against Tokido. Momentum is a very real thing, and it was halted by outside forces.
• Giving a player of Tokido's talent and experience that amount of time to adapt will inevitably result in said adaptation. This is especially the case when one of the players is on a roll, and the other just got 3 - 0'd. There is more for the losing player to gain than the winning player, easily.
• The amount of time the break took was certainly more than the amount of time it would take if Tokido decided to return to character select. There's also the fact that the players are still "in it" in that scenario, which is a big deal when it comes to the focus aspect of these games.

It's those thinking that the break had no effect at all on how the grand finals proceeded who are misguided. Putting a break in a grand finals reset is unheard of, and it really shouldn't ever occur in any tournament worth its salt.

It's a good thing both players knew this would happen before the fact, otherwise that would have been truly messed up. Now, it's just a particularity of this one event that they had to prepare for, but it's still something that very much gets in the way of the competition.

AAK said:

LOL @ scrubs bitching about a 2 minute break. That's just a fanboy excuse. If the player wanted they could have taken 2 minutes off anyway without a commercial break by going to the character select screen and stalling to compose themselves. It's nothing about "e-sports is ruining my FGC" drivel.

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I like Tokido more than Smug, I've met him a few times and I'm so glad he's destroyed Daigo several times since losing that long set. That being said Smug got screwed.

Yeah he knew about the break before hand, but do you really think he expected himself to be steam rolling Tokido to the extent he was? He was mauling Tokido and on a complete roll.

First Phenom got screwed over last year and now Smug this time, shame.