If I had to guess, the band is doing the satire but the fans harassing the women who were offended by this are 100% being sexist pricks.
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Is this name of this guitar pedal from Steel Panther sexist?
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If I had to guess, the band is doing the satire but the fans harassing the women who were offended by this are 100% being sexist pricks.
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I hope they stick to their guns and dont change it to please some social justice worriers with nothing better to do with their time then to complain about something so insignificant.
I hope they stick to their guns and dont change it to please some social justice worriers with nothing better to do with their time then to complain about something so insignificant.
Just like Steele Panther.
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No.
Crying over jokes makes one look dumb and weak.
FWIW, I really like Steel Panther's Bukkake Tears. It's a bit more romantic than most of their stuff.
Crying over jokes makes one look dumb and weak.
FWIW, I really like Steel Panther's Bukkake Tears. It's a bit more romantic than most of their stuff.
This is exactly what I was going to say. Nothing wrong with making fun of sexism.
Yes, I'm sure everyone knows they are a comedy band.
What everyone may not actually know, is that satire fails at its intended purpose when it doesn't actually criticize the thing it's supposed to be making fun of, but instead ends up basically glorifying it "for the lulz". Reproduction of sexism as-is isn't exactly satire of sexism.
Unironically complaining about Social Justice Warriors, yikes
You know, things can be fun without being sexist. Like, the vast majority of things, it isn't the magic component in fun. If you need things to be sexist or edgy to have fun, I mean, that isn't very good at all.
Who is crying? I see no evidence of that. Or do you mean the people who agree its sexist and you're painting their disagreement as crying in order to diminish their voices because it doesn't suit you?
You know what makes people look dumb and weak? Caring so much what other people think that you have to misrepresent their reaction in substitute of any salient points. Or giving a shit what someone online thinks of you. Or downplaying a woman's concerns about sexism. I dunno dude I think those would all qualify
I'm teaching my daughter guitar, I wouldn't want her seeing this in the store where we go to try out amps and guitars and buy strings. Like, I hope they wouldn't display it but you never know. I don't want her to get discouraged as a kid because she knows she has a ton of objectification and sexism as a barrier and that she'll have to work harder than most boys on average to overcome more barriers than they do, it's just shitty.
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Its fucking steel panther lol thats their thing. And people are in for a rude awakening if they find out what the meaning behind the Muff Fuzz is, lol.
There is nothing sexist about it.
There is nothing sexist about it.
This has been the best publicity for this pedal, especially within the overcrowded and saturated guitar pedal market.
This pedal will go great with my Hatsune Miku pedal
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I have a pick from a steel panther gig, it has a pic of a hand on it doing the shocker
Yeah, I see it as a equal parts glorification and satire. I mean, they are a comedy band, but it's clear they love the culture which they are parodying. And they are constantly on bills with said 80s hair metal acts at this point, so they've basically been absorbed into that whole scene.
It's kind of a gray area between sexist and making fun of sexist bullshit. There's obviously an ironic sensibility to what they do.
Even if you do fall on the "it's sexist" side, complaining about it kind of feeds into their whole shtick I think. If you could get Tipper Gore to issue a statement about it, you'd probably make their whole year.
Even if you do fall on the "it's sexist" side, complaining about it kind of feeds into their whole shtick I think. If you could get Tipper Gore to issue a statement about it, you'd probably make their whole year.
The entire point of the band is that they take the absurdity of hair metal and blow it up to offensively trashy proportions.
I meant to post this along with the controversy, but I ultimately forgot. This is an op-ed by the woman from Braids who opposed the pedal. Read it.
Why I Fought the Sexist Gear Community (And Won)
Why I Fought the Sexist Gear Community (And Won)
To everyone saying "it's fine, they're MEANT to be OTT."
Ultimately,
Uh-huh. Now to sit back and watch as everyone ignores this and keeps saying "it's just a joke".
LMAO, literally right beneath my post there's someone using the "it's a joke" defense.
It may just be a joke, but it's a fairly crass and unfunny one and the "new" version to "own the feminazis" (legitimate reply to the Tweet about it) is even worse.
If you're going to be funny, you have to be funny otherwise you're not funny.
I also wouldn't have a "Pussy Melter" in my set up because I'm not a nobber.
If you're going to be funny, you have to be funny otherwise you're not funny.
I also wouldn't have a "Pussy Melter" in my set up because I'm not a nobber.
I understand that juvenile jokes are not for everyone and can be tiresome, but that's what this is. It's crude humor satire on the blatant sexism of 80's metal rock bands. You might find that humor on sexism is, at times, too serious to joke about, (and, at times, I would agree) but I don't really see how it says anything about the band or any person who sees the (obvious) satire and finds it funny. We all know that many of actual bands and 80's metal scene were totally absurd; it's easy to see why it's great fodder for low-hanging fruit, but at the end of the day the band is making fun of a ridiculous stereotype. I get that it's annoying that there are actual people who laugh at this without a whiff of irony because they hold sexist views towards women themselves already, but their stupidity makes the joke sexist for only themselves.
Man I haven't thought about Steel Panther in what feels like forever. I've been to a bunch of their shows, used to work with a group of girls who adored them and would always try to get pulled on stage at their concerts. Like Tenacious D, I love that they're this completely stupid joke of an idea yet they're actually really musically talented. Like they fuckin RIP on some of their tracks. Though, if that quote up there is genuine and not some meta "We're not a joke we're a legit band" part of their shtick that's pretty unfortunate, considering a lot of their songs are extraordinarily disgusting. Changes things to an uncomfortable degree if they're actually.. being serious :\
Oh man that sound. Right into my spine. Unf. Whew.
Oh man that sound. Right into my spine. Unf. Whew.
This has been addressed repeatedly in this thread, but no, not really. Reproducing sexism as-is is not satirizing sexism. It's mocking women, not sexism. Moreover, the band itself doesn't consider itself a parody...
Theyve never broken character so I wouldnt put too much stock into any of their quotes
Hell, even guitar lessons or news channels or whatever, theyll always be massive degenerates in wigs
Oh yeah, and its not satire, idk why we keep going on about it
Its parodying sexist 80s hairmetal
Hell look at Its The End Of The World MV
Its parodying sexist 80s hairmetal
Hell look at Its The End Of The World MV
I find this extremely, extremely difficult to believe. It might be true, and that would be really unfortunate, but they're in character like 110% of the time, and that character is that they're the best 80s glam rock band of all time despite actually being super shitty. So the hopeful, naive part of me wants to believe that they're going "of course we aren't a parody band" because that's exactly what their characters would say. But if they really do genuinely buy their own bullshit and don't consider themselves parody anymore that.. is awful and super disappointing. ):
Read the post by torre_avenue above. The thing is that they obviously admit to not being "serious" (whilst still claiming to refuse the "parody" label) and just "sing about whatever makes us laugh". But they do so at the expense of women and minorities, not at the expense of sexism itself. They're obviously allowed to do that (free speech and all that), but I sure can't blame that guitarist for calling them out on their bullshit.
Where's the defense force?
Oh, and just so we are clear, I think Steele Panther is literally singing dancing shit.
"WOW PC CULTURE WONT ALLOW US TO RELEASE OUR PEDAL WITH A DEGRADING NAME EVEN THOUGH A WOMAN HAS EXPLAINED WHY SHE FOUND IT OFFENSIVE."
"DAMN YOU SJWS FOR YOUR INTOLERANCE TOWARDS MY SEXIST JOKES!!!!"
"DAMN YOU SJWS FOR YOUR INTOLERANCE TOWARDS MY SEXIST JOKES!!!!"
