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Octopath Traveler Review Thread
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FFXII is a remaster and an 84 is higher than an 83 though.
I'm looking at this right now:
http://www.metacritic.com/company/s...ons=games&num_items=30&sort_options=metascore
From the looks of it, the only non remake/remaster that scored higher in the past decade or so is... Bravely Default at 85? I could be wrong and missed something, of course.
Obviosuly Im only looking at Square Enix here, and there's be a bigger pool if there was a way to see ALL JRPGs, but I figure since this is by them, that'd be "fair".
To be fair, that is true for all genres ever.
Another reason why the content of reviews are a tiny bit more relevant than whatever number the game might get.
Sure, Octopad, Ni No Kuni 2 and Xenoblade 2 might all get around the same metascore, but those 3 games seems very different from each other. It is no surprise that someone who loves one of these might not like one of the others.
Stormblood, Nier Automata, Persona 5. Those are all higher and were just last year.
OK, this makes a lot of sense. In the final dungeon, which I believe so far has only been accessed by me and the Twinfinite writer I'm currently talking to (gameplay spoilers, no story spoilers):
Each time you beat one of these shadow final bosses, you'll see a text lore dump that connects them to the other villains and the over-arching lore. There don't appear to be any character interactions, but it does appear like there's one major behind-the-scenes villain who I'm guessing you fight once you beat all eight final bosses again. I won't get into story spoilers.
As I've been saying all along, the lore is most certainly all connected, but the characters' individual stories remain individual stories. This is cool, don't get me wrong, but it's not changing the nature of the game.
Also, you can't save or leave the final dungeon once you've entered so this is going to be really fun to beat lmao
As I've been saying all along, the lore is most certainly all connected, but the characters' individual stories remain individual stories. This is cool, don't get me wrong, but it's not changing the nature of the game.
Also, you can't save or leave the final dungeon once you've entered so this is going to be really fun to beat lmao
The internet everybody.
Jason isn't done with the dungeon. There are already many other hints to
there being a secret final boss on top of this already and a conclusion to the 8 stories.
I wonder if I'll like this - the style looks neat and I like the idea behind separate stories, but it seems too..content dense?
Like I'd like things to be lean n mean
Like I'd like things to be lean n mean
It seems like people are holding it to the standard of other major switch games.
Ok, I almost had myself reading that spoiler out of curiosity (and I did see a bit of it before I tapped again), but the game's in my mailbox so I'm going to bow out of reading anything. As always I think I'll see discussion of it before I get to it, but I want to give myself a littttle bit of a chance of being surprised.
I'll just not expect anything from the postgame and be pleasantly surprised if it does something cool/interesting.
I'll just not expect anything from the postgame and be pleasantly surprised if it does something cool/interesting.
Fucking bam. Now everyone else stop jumping to conclusions please.
It likely ties everything together, but it doesn't change the nature of the game entirely. Those still disappointed by lack of story connections by this point will be disappointed. Those that wanted post-game will be happy. Lets just chill (which won't happen at all but it needs to be said.)
Which is definitely going to completely change the nature of the completely individual stories you already finished by the time you get to that part.
It seems kind of neat, sure, but it doesn't seem like it's the linchpin that people are looking for/hoping it to be.
Man....this just makes me realize that JRPGs like Persona 5 come out once every 10 years.
Sounds pretty awesome! Knew there was going to be an overarching behind-the-scenes plot to bring the lore together.
Obviously not everyone will be a fan of the anthology format of the game, but personally, I relish it.
Yea its been more than confirmed:
1. There are post-game quests after beating each character story according to Twinfinite. They tie the characters lore together more closely.
2. The Uber Character Classes are almost impossible to get before beating the game because the dungeons/bosses are pretty hard.
3. There is a secret dungeon that is unlocked after doing all 8 storylines and a specific set of side-quests. You fight stronger versions of the each of the final bosses and it apparently hints at an overarching secret boss that ties all 8 characters together. This has been hinted throughout each character's storyline (more or less apparent in certain stories). We won't have confirmation on the final secret boss until somebody beats these 8 bosses again in a row, but there are OST and guide hints to the boss already (its a 2 stage fight apparently).
2. The Uber Character Classes are almost impossible to get before beating the game because the dungeons/bosses are pretty hard.
3. There is a secret dungeon that is unlocked after doing all 8 storylines and a specific set of side-quests. You fight stronger versions of the each of the final bosses and it apparently hints at an overarching secret boss that ties all 8 characters together. This has been hinted throughout each character's storyline (more or less apparent in certain stories). We won't have confirmation on the final secret boss until somebody beats these 8 bosses again in a row, but there are OST and guide hints to the boss already (its a 2 stage fight apparently).
Sounds like I need to grab a physical copy of this pronto.
Stoked for people who are currently playing it.
I will ask though, how is the Soundtrack?
Stoked for people who are currently playing it.
I will ask though, how is the Soundtrack?
it's real good, I think a lot/all of it is up on youtube
it's, like, real good
Yasunori Nishiki.
He is quite young, so probably this is his first big project as lead composer.
It's one of the best OSTs I've heard in gaming, including the classics from JRPGs.
Oh I understand why the game was designed the way it is and I have no problem with what they chose to do. People had crazy expectations to expect a billion possible permutations for how you played the story.
I just picked a random character since I couldn't think of anyone else who'd fit the role well in my fake scene.
I agree people's expectations were completely out of sync with the marketing.
For a second I read that as Octodad, and thought about what an Octodad JRPG would be like. It would be amazing.
But anyway, I'm preaching to the choir with you, I guess. This is exactly the reason why my favorite reviewers are people who have (1) very specific tastes and (2) are good at talking about why or why not a game works for them. Jason Schreier definitely falls into that bucket for me. As does Jeremy Parish. And so it was particularly cool to read two well written takes that together paint a great picture of what kind of game Octopath is. It's what reviews are all about.
Hey jschreier, just wanted to say one thing. I do disagree with a lot of your opinions lol, but I do want to thank you for the sheer amount of patience you've shown, for how you have continued to engage with the community, how you have continued to go above and beyond in explaining things, even to people who may not have been necessarily arguing in the best faith. You've conducted yourself very well, and thank you for that.
I wish you did like OT more, since I know you were stupidly excited for it (I actually really love it for what it is, but I know why the lack of cohesion got you down- then again, i have come to realize your opinions are very different from my own on JRPGs lol).
I wish you did like OT more, since I know you were stupidly excited for it (I actually really love it for what it is, but I know why the lack of cohesion got you down- then again, i have come to realize your opinions are very different from my own on JRPGs lol).
I love that the endgame is obscure.
It might drop down the score a few points but eh, who cares, it's very pre-internet-like, like the golden era of JRPGs. Its also bad practices for reviewers to rush a game and skip content in a big RPG for review deadlines. Would anyone really be bothered if the review dropped a few days after embargo so that the reviewer finished it? Some of them have only finished 1 storyline! Or at least if you drop the review early, don't hesitate to edit it after you continue playing it.
It might drop down the score a few points but eh, who cares, it's very pre-internet-like, like the golden era of JRPGs. Its also bad practices for reviewers to rush a game and skip content in a big RPG for review deadlines. Would anyone really be bothered if the review dropped a few days after embargo so that the reviewer finished it? Some of them have only finished 1 storyline! Or at least if you drop the review early, don't hesitate to edit it after you continue playing it.
Well, I need to hear it to say something like that.
So far my favorite OST's comprise of Chrono Cross, FF7, Kingdom Hearts, Ni Nu kuni, oh forgot persona.
I literally don't think your console warring agenda could have been more obvious if you had tried.
I did like it! I just didn't love it. The lack of cohesion didn't get me down as much as the repetition did. The fact that every chapter followed the same exact pattern really, really bummed me out.
My tastes in RPGs always line up pretty much exactly with Jason's so I'll probably skip this one. I hated Xenoblade 2 as well.
Yup! This is exactly what happened to games like SaGa Frontier back in the day.
It has different feel from what you listed (Chrono Cross is my favorite OST of all time), but it's definitely up there with all of those.
That makes sense as well! I personally like grindiness and repletion (one of the reasons I adore Monster Hunter so much, for example- I just love to repeat every hunt dozens of times until I have mastered it), but yes, a repetitive structure can begin to drag, especially over a long game.
Anyway, I hope that these folks build on the base of Octopath, and the next thing they come up with rectifies the flaws of OT, while amplifying its merits!
Glad to hear the "post-game" dungeon isn't gameplay only. I've heard enough so time to find that out on my own. :)
I do agree that it doesn't really matter much to the reviews, the same way I didn't agree that a certain reviewer was trying to negate other reviews who spent less time than him on the game. It's fine for reviews to have a varied range of playtime that reflects what they think up to that point as long they're upfront about it.
Hope he takes his own word and doesn't duck out till he finishes everything. He doesn't need to change his review.
I do agree that it doesn't really matter much to the reviews, the same way I didn't agree that a certain reviewer was trying to negate other reviews who spent less time than him on the game. It's fine for reviews to have a varied range of playtime that reflects what they think up to that point as long they're upfront about it.
Hope he takes his own word and doesn't duck out till he finishes everything. He doesn't need to change his review.
Man, what is everyone's obsession with the game needing to have some overarching story instead of 8 individual ones? Bonkers.
Likely because everyone is party member and it makes narrative sense to have one. And now we know it does, albeit as post-game content.
I don't want that, I just wish they gave more reason for X party member to be linked to the Y party member. Why does the warrior want to help out the mage in his own personal journey? I dunno, but here he is the party to help kill this slime monster!
Game looks really good, glad to see it's seeing such a positive reception. I know Square Enix has had inconsistent success so far with their smaller/classic JRPG products, but I definitely support their desire to make them and it's definitely encouraging that a few of them seem to have a pretty good budget all things considered.
What I don't like so far is in order to have 1 of each Path Action available for treasure hunting/solving side quests, your party configuration options are limited (only 8 unique combinations before you can switch out your MC).
It does not need one to make narrative sense, however. It's just that, a different approach to the story. The current narrative sense of travelers who meet by chance (or not at all), works just fine.
I think this is the part that is bothering me the most out of all this.
84 average is not "ok", it's one of the highest rated games of the year.
No, I bailed after beating one boss and realizing that you can't save between them. I want to go buy 99 of every healing item before I try taking them all on. (I also have to do some other work.)