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Heckler456

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How about reading the paragraph in the OP about the camera? It's a legit complaint, imho. The camera makes the game feels so restrictive for me.
I don't see how rereading that paragraph would explain what the joke is. He complained about camera angles, and then posted that picture as to demonstrate that every Sony title has the same camera angle. Where's the funny?
 

Bold One

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Oct 30, 2017
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the hot take is being so mad that someone dislikes your fav game that you actually believe he didn't even played it

The op lost any and all credibility by including that silly pic. Thus downgrading anything resembling a reasonable opinion to another take on era.

Take your take elsewhere.
 

jsnepo

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I agree with some of these points. The itemization and loot felt shoehorned and feels like they takeaway from the experience instead of keeping it a more pure experience that focuses more on combat growth with abilities and move-sets instead of stat bonuses.

I agree with this. I have unlocked all the move sets but it never felt like it added to the combat because of the loot and leveling system. It never made sense to experiment with the different moves because even if you master these and as long as you have not leveled up your gear, it won't matter because enemies will still be stronger.
 

IIFloodyII

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Splatoon, Zelda, Mario and Starfox are all third person.

Division, Skull and Bones, Mario+Rabbids, South Park are all third person.

The screenshot compilation isn't saying they're all third person, it's that they're third person and play similarly. More similarly than the above examples for instance.
They don't though.
 

Deleted member 2791

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it's pretty funny to see how many people can get mad just by seeing the repost of a years-old meme that is circulating everywhere on twitter/facebook and taking that occasion to just ignore the legit arguments from the OP

The op lost any and all credibility by including that silly pic. Thus downgrading anything resembling a reasonable opinion to another take on era.

Take your take elsewhere.

lmao who do you think you are to decide what is worth being on era or not
 
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It's funny, because everything I dislike about modern video games is microtransactions up the wazoo, mandatory online connections and insubstantial single-player content. God of War was an effective remedy for all of that.
 

snausages

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Wasn't my experience. I beat a lot of mobs that out-leveled me based on pure skill, on the hardest difficulty.
I found that the difference in numbers for that type of stuff just is too stark to 'power through'. Not saying you didn't do it but the game doesn't really have the right framework to support for generaly play.

It's got a similar issue as when you get underlevelled in Nier Automata, where you struggle to make a dent and get smushed like butter if the numbers don't even out.

Even on the hardest difficulty in DMC you can easily (well not 'easily') find the right path and destroy enemies with the right attacks while healing yourself quite quickly with health drops. But in GoW you seem to do chip damage and take one or two-hit kills when you get hit.
 

Loveless

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Splatoon, Zelda, Mario and Starfox are all third person.

Division, Skull and Bones, Mario+Rabbids, South Park are all third person.

The screenshot compilation isn't saying they're all third person, it's that they're third person and play similarly. More similarly than the above examples for instance.
Well shit, it's no wonder when I was playing God of War, I was like, wow this game plays exactly like Uncharted 4 and Horizon.
 

Bold One

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it's pretty funny to see how many people can get mad just by seeing the report of a years-old meme that is circulating everywhere on twitter/facebook and taking that occasion to just ignore the legit arguments from the OP



lmao who do you think you are to decide what is worth being on era or not
Bold One
 

Bandate

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Nov 6, 2017
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This is bait haha but it's ok to not like a critically acclaimed game OP. BOTW was adored by many but it was just ok to me.
 

AzureFlame

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My biggrst issue with this game is the boss fights.. we need way more, also the story is very simple and slow paced.

I also hate when people compare this game to the old God of War games, they are very diffrent kind of games.
 
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Nintendo has gone too far with their fun, third person, colorful games. They should have some variety!
 

Decarb

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The screenshot compilation isn't saying they're all third person, it's that they're third person and play similarly. More similarly than the above examples for instance.
Gameplay wise the Last of Us probably has more things in common with Splatoon 2 than it does with GoW, and Horizon in common with BotW than it does with Death Stranding.
 

IIFloodyII

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it's pretty funny to see how many people can get mad just by seeing the repost of a years-old meme that is circulating everywhere on twitter/facebook and taking that occasion to just ignore the legit arguments from the OP
I already commented on a legit criticism (the loot), which is just objectively wrong in parts. It was ignored.
 

Strings

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Splatoon, Zelda, Mario and Starfox are all third person.

Division, Skull and Bones, Mario+Rabbids, South Park are all third person.

The screenshot compilation isn't saying they're all third person, it's that they're third person and play similarly. More similarly than the above examples for instance.
They don't play anything like each other though :/ Even the two games by the same dev (Uncharted 4 and The Last of Us) feel extremely different to play...
 
Feb 26, 2018
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People hate good stories and different camera placements
Knowing tastes of some people they want a gaming industry full of "save the princess" plots and DMC combat in every game. And don't forget some wacky mascot
 

Bold One

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So if I remove the pic, you can just focus on the text right ?
I read it, didn't help.

Some fearful ramblings about forming emotional bonds with other characters like that's a bad thing. Taking inspiration from critically acclaimed games like tlou .. Like that's a bad thing?

Rpg elements that expand the game play loop and variety for endless replay value ... Like that's a bad thing.


Everyone is entitled to an opinion, not all of them are good.
 

leng jai

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Nov 2, 2017
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A lot of your complaints/points are understandable and fair honestly, I liked the game but it certainly did have a formulaic vibe to it. At the end of the day the execution is very good even if it's derivative to an extent, and production values are through the roof.
 

Spinluck

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I enjoyed the game but really had to force myself to finish it towards the end.

Outside of its unique 3rd person combat, and axe mechanic. It was basically a checklist of working AAA components, and it kind of ran dry for me towards the end...

These skill trees are boring, and XP doesn't feel rewarding to come by at all. There's no real customization in unlocking these skills which I guess is the point but I wish they came up with a more interesting way to unlock abilities. And I really didn't like the loot system and the menus/UI were awful.

Anyway, I loved the story for the most part, and the visuals were insane. This was also one of my favorite takes on an open world as well.
 

Mass_Pincup

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good question, first Splatoon was kinda fresh but it's a multiplayer game. Actually that's a grip I have with modern games, they tend to lack originality, still they CAN be good but I always feel like I've played that game somewhere else.

But I can also the same thing about Splatoon. It followed the shooter and multiplayer trend in AAA games and took inspiration from De Blob.

My point is, it's extremely easy to reduce games into bullet point and no game at this point is really orignal or takes nothing from previous games.
 

dharmapolice

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Oct 25, 2017
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So I bought God of War last week and already sold it because I just can't deal with what the game has to offer, because I already seen it somewhere else.

The first thing that irked me is the high amount of RPG elements

Another thing that bothers me, it's the huge inspiration from Naughty Dogs games.

There are also others things that bothered me like the bad guy who is just a wildling from game of thrones that talks like a random vilain from a netflix series or the fact that Atreus sometimes talks like he is a millenial who browses 9gag and watches Rick & Morty.

To each his own, but this is very nitpicky. You bought an action rpg, you've got to expect some RPG elements. There are a lot of people who get off on stat tweaking and loot grinding.

The Naughty Dog thing is just the Sony aesthetic- a single player, narrative focused cinematic experience. How can you rail on that when you have companies like EA and endless MMORPGs and shooters being pushed down your throat trying to kill single player? Sony is making Game of Thrones while most everyone else is churning out reality TV.

Also, if you had played to the end, you'd see there is great nuance to the villain, you sympathize for him, understand his motives and see how it fits into the overall narrative and theme of the game. I don't want to spoil anything but the climax is both epic and plot rich and you do really feel something when it's all said and done.

Anyways, we are spoiled. If you don't like the AAA there are thousands of free, cheap and multivaried genres both indie and studio out there- more for all than there ever has been.
 

Klobrille

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Based on a majority of the replies, accepting a well-written and reasoned opinion - whether or not you agree with - definitely isn't a strength of this community.
 
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"Everything I dislike about modern videogames."

As if all games are the same. Yeah, God of War is a modern videogame, but so are Breath of the Wild, Prey, Doom, Bayonetta 2, Nioh, Bloodborne, Cuphead, Hollow Knight, The Witness and The Last Guardian, to name but a few. Just embrace the variety. I f you dislike GoW, play something else.
 

NotLiquid

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The RPG elements are completely superfluous and don't really add anything to the game's design other than surface level mechanics. The camera angle is still more of a hassle than it's not, and the fact that they had to sprinkle in a bunch of annoying indicators about offscreen enemies attacking is evidence of a concession they willingly brought about by themselves. The camera angle meme aside it's especially annoying in God of War how incongruous it feels with the gameplay and actively hinders the player rather than contributing to the action, and it kinda boggles my mind as to why it exists the way it does.

Also as a purely personal point I find it kinda silly how they remove elements of Kratos like jumping etc. in gameplay because it "wouldn't make sense for the story" or whatever and yet he'll do superhuman leaps in cutscenes.
 

Wereroku

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wait you hate the lack of originality in AAA games but one of you favorite releases this gen is Zelda Skyrim?
 

Wispmetas

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Oct 27, 2017
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Another thing that bothers me, it's the huge inspiration from Naughty Dogs games. Like The Last of Us. Obviously there is Atreus but it's not the only thing, there is also the camera angle (well it's in every sony games actually). While the combat is not has confusing as I thought when I saw the trailers, the exploration is irritating with this camera. You can't see things clearly since Kratos back is like on a third of a screen. Also the game is really beautiful (sometimes, not always, for example the witch's forest is a little bit TOO colorful) but it forgot to get to give player a clear understanding on where you can walk and where you can't, there is a lack of visual clues on that departement, sure there is rubbles that indicates a invisible wall but it's not easy to see from a distance with this camera angle making exploration not really fun or even rewarding for the reason above. Another thing that irks me is the good old boost you give to your partner to reach some places, this mechanic is downright infuriating right now, it's not fun, it's boring when you see it for the 47th time, really, I'm tired of this.

He says he has a problem with the camera of the game, that is the 3rd person over the shoulder camera that is used very often nowadays, as can be seen by most of the sony games, and you criticize him for saying all the games are the same gameplay wise? Good job at missing the point of his criticism and jumping to conclusions.

I agree with most of what you said, was really excited for this game, since the setting really interested me, but I'm really kind of hating the gameplay of this game.
 

lvl 99 Pixel

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Oct 25, 2017
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God of War (2018) is everything i like about modern videogames
mate, without taking inspiration from other artists we'd still be stuck with stick figures on cave walls
 

Heckler456

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Based on a majority of the replies, accepting a well-written and reasoned opinion - whether or not you agree with - definitely isn't a strength of this community.
Begging the question though, aren't you? I think there are lots of comments here who put into question certain parts of the OP. If anything, the only trend in this thread are that the people "complaining about the complaining about the complaining" aren't actually engaging with the topic whatsoever.
 

Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

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Nintendo has gone too far with their fun, third person, colorful games. They should have some variety!

What does that even have to do with this topic? It is about God of War. This is exactly what the other thread that got closed means. Someone shares his opinion about God of War in a thread, somehow Nintendo has to be put in that thread for console war reason.

The OP just stated a bit later, when asked what his favorite games are and they are N games.
 

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Based on a majority of the replies, accepting a well-written and reasoned opinion - whether or not you agree with - definitely isn't a strength of this community.

thats usually what happens with select popular games, even more when they're sony exclusives
you may or not disagree with OP's argument, you may or not find it reasonable, but half the posts here are just people trying to sound smart by implying that it's anticonformism to dislike a popular video game
 

ShinySunny

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Wait you hate the lack of originality in AAA games but one of you favorite releases this gen is Zelda Skyrim?

BOTW and GOW have similar gameplay.

Action: Both Swing/block and dodge, with charging component to weapon.
Special: Both use Rune/Runic abilities.
Puzzle: Both have the same puzzle requiring use of Arrow/Axe throw and Rune/Runic abilities.
Camera: Both are really closed up, one is just centered while the other is more to the left shoulder.


Very ironic that he listed Zelda and Skyrim LOL.
 

RPGamer92

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it's pretty funny to see how many people can get mad just by seeing the repost of a years-old meme that is circulating everywhere on twitter/facebook and taking that occasion to just ignore the legit arguments from the OP



lmao who do you think you are to decide what is worth being on era or not
He does kinda dismiss his credibility by posting that meme pic tho.
 

TailorDKS

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WHY is this picture always brought up in Sony discussion?

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All these games play very differently, yet they're the same apparently.

For me its funny because thats 7 games and with tlou as the first (2013) and Death Stranding as the last (2019/2020) you have 7 games in 7 years. Its like people are annoyed because they play ONE Third-Person game from Sony every game, while they play different.
What should the Call of Duty/Fifa players say, they always gets the same game since 10+ years...

But back to topic: I have to agree with AAA games taking elements from other games. They are that expensive so they cant invent everything new (except Death Stranding maybe). But the thing with Sony gamss is, that everything they take they do verry well. Tlou offers few new things - but its polished af and everything is at its best. Same with gow, they took some elements but it doesnt change the fact that its done well.
If you saw it 100 times and dont like it in Gow, its not because God of War but because every other game which did it too.
 
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