My point was that the bully never apologize on where it matters.Yeah, he didn't go around apologizing for everything he did but does that really matter to Chloe?
I you're someone who doesn't know any of these people
wanting to impose your opinion on them
I'm arguing for the voracity of the statements against Chloe. If you're going to charge Chloe with betraying then you have to make sure she's ironclad wrong.My point was that the bully never apologize on where it matters.
And who cares if it matters to Chloe or even take into account into this? You're arguing for Logan.
Vested interest is a tricky thing. There's nothing wrong with wanting to see what is causing the fanbase to ask Chloe such a question.
What is "concerning" about it?
I meant is no one business but Crypto and the couple. :PUm excuse me but im like super important and my 'opinion' should b regarded as truth
On topic
Burn the witch
And how does Logan being defined right now according to you -- publicly?I'm arguing for the voracity of the statements against Chloe. If you're going to charge Chloe with betraying then you have to make sure she's ironclad wrong.
'Leave her alone, your trying to mind control her actions!!"- A public figure known to advertise herself as a champion for the cause of eliminating racism against Asians.
- Proceed to date someone who are openly racist to Asian people and has shown blatant disrespect towards Asians.
- People are disappointed by her. Some are criticizing her because the 2nd point clearly undermines the 1s point.
What is hard to understand?
Someone has to stand for the little guy ! (aka sociopathic racist rich straight white male)- A public figure known to advertise herself as a champion for the cause of eliminating racism against Asians.
- Proceed to date someone who are openly racist to Asian people and has shown blatant disrespect towards Asians.
- People are disappointed by her. Some are criticizing her because the 2nd point clearly undermines the 1s point.
What is hard to understand?
I'm not denying his racist past nor am I denying his other behavior. There's nuance to this. Chloe is now dating Logan Paul. Logan Paul, after his incident in Japan, has changed his behavior relating to the things she challenges in Hollywood. It's quite fair to see what Logan Paul has done recently that could show Chloe doesn't care. Like, imagine if her response was, "He's changed". What would be used to prove her otherwise? It appears Chloe had issues with what happened on New Years and they reconciled.It feels unnecessary to spell it out but: The only people benefitting from racist shitheads being defended are racist shitheads themselves. Unless you are one yourself, why are you so eager to defend Logan Paul?
Logan Paul apologists.
Yeah teasing rats in garbage cans is super changed.I'm not denying his racist past nor am I denying his other behavior. There's nuance to this. Chloe is now dating Logan Paul. Logan Paul, after his incident in Japan, has changed his behavior relating to the things she challenges in Hollywood. It's quite fair to see what Logan Paul has done recently that could show Chloe doesn't care. Like, imagine if her response was, "He's changed". What would be used to prove her otherwise?
People using inferior posts-per-page settings ;)
...because he never uploaded racist video for 7 months.
I'm not denying his racist past nor am I denying his other behavior. There's nuance to this. Chloe is now dating Logan Paul. Logan Paul, after his incident in Japan, has changed his behavior relating to the things she challenges in Hollywood. It's quite fair to see what Logan Paul has done recently that could show Chloe doesn't care. Like, imagine if her response was, "He's changed". What would be used to prove her otherwise? It appears Chloe had issues with what happened on New Years and they reconciled.
If you can only interpret my argument as just defending Logan Paul for ALL his past acts then we're not going to get anywhere. I've made it pretty obvious that's not what my position is but you can continue to hold that.We don't have to imagine anything. Dude never apologized for his racist actions and remarks. His apology for the suicide forest video coinciding with a perceived decrease in racist behaviour is a weak argument. How would you even quantify that? Does he have to fill a certain quota to be considered racist? Dude is back on his bullshit again, being an asshole in parks and tasering dead rats but because he hasn't publicly done or said anything racist in 7 months I am led to believe that he has reformed? If he has the audacity to benefit financially from his racist antics, he should have the humility to prove in public that he has changed.
Bottomline is, don't defend racist shitheads based on faulty and incomplete information. There's nothing to be gained from that.
If you can only interpret my argument as just defending Logan Paul for ALL his past acts then we're not going to get anywhere. I've made it pretty obvious that's not what my position is but you can continue to hold that.
Fyi this showed up in my twitter moments and is an article on EW. I didn't intentionally seek this out nor would I personally tweet at her about any of this stuff. Just wanted to share my opinion.
And to all the people saying I'm jealous and mocking me and whatever, thanks for reinforcing the idea that a man can't have a female role model without it simply being a thin excuse for wanting to fuck her. Nice work.
Seriously, you people exhaust me. I realize making the thread was a mistake given most of you don't know who she is or know anything about how outspoken she is about racism, especially among the celebrity/acting world and why this news was particularly upsetting to hear.
Right, because right now you're judging her based on who she is attracted to, which frankly isn't your business.
However if one of the following happens, go nuts:
1: She suddenly downplays her stance against racism, and adopts a "fuck you, got mine" mentality.
2: Logan Paul does something appalling and racist from this day on and Chloe comes out to bat for him.
If that happens, sure, criticism is warranted.
Until then, this is just an other example of someone's personal life not always matching their political one. I've lost count of the amount of people who are married to someone who politically should hate each other. It sounds weird, but when you start a relationship you don't give an interview on your political beliefs do you.
Duly noted. I'll add that to my image of his reformed self. Thanks for that.For the guy wanting proof, this here is a red flag after the Japan incidents:
https://metro.co.uk/2018/02/08/yout...casual-racism-amid-boxing-match-feud-7296308/
For additional context, Paul is known to use the N-word freely.
There's plenty of famous cases in the UK of people in politics married to their mortal (political) enemies. https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyl...dons-politically-cloven-couples-10206417.htmlOne can argue that she's already downplaying her stance against racism already, by dating someone who has shown that he's willing to openly mock and do racist remarks + acts against Asian people in front of the audience consisted of millions of people, many of which are impressionable young people. One that has never actually apologized for those things, actually.
Also, those people you know are not public figure. Of course public figure also deserve privacy, but they also should be responsible for how they act since they can affect so many people who look up on them.
Kind of? I am hugely disappointed in her for this.Considering she has complained about injustices especially in Hollywood, this makes her kind of hypocritical.
Again, solid lefties sleep with the Tories all the time.Kind of? I am hugely disappointed in her for this.
She can date who she wants, but if you are vocal about racism then don't date one publicly as I am sure the people you helped will not look fondly on it.
Kind of? I am hugely disappointed in her for this.
She can date who she wants, but if you are vocal about racism then don't date one publicly as I am sure the people you helped will not look fondly on it.
What message is it sending tho?Again, solid lefties sleep with the Tories all the time.
They don't wake up on the right side of the bed.
As long as she still helps these people, nothing has changed.
For clarity: I think Logan Paul is a racist asshat and can't see what she sees in him, but hey!
Why do people care so much what other people do with their personal time. This thread getting to 8 pages is fucking silly.
Again, solid lefties sleep with the Tories all the time.
They don't wake up on the right side of the bed.
As long as she still helps these people, nothing has changed.
For clarity: I think Logan Paul is a racist asshat and can't see what she sees in him, but hey!