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CrazyAndy

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Never heard of her but she's free to date whoever she wants to date. This time she chose poorly, though.
 

subpar spatula

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My point was that the bully never apologize on where it matters.

And who cares if it matters to Chloe or even take into account into this? You're arguing for Logan.
I'm arguing for the voracity of the statements against Chloe. If you're going to charge Chloe with betraying then you have to make sure she's ironclad wrong.
 

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Dude he's just asking questions !

They always try to weasel out of it in the most predictable ways too:

Vested interest is a tricky thing. There's nothing wrong with wanting to see what is causing the fanbase to ask Chloe such a question.

What is "concerning" about it?

It feels unnecessary to spell it out but: The only people benefitting from racist shitheads being defended are racist shitheads themselves. Unless you are one yourself, why are you so eager to defend Logan Paul?
 
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- A public figure known to advertise herself as a champion for the cause of eliminating racism against Asians.
- Proceed to date a very famous someone who are openly racist to Asian people and has shown blatant disrespect towards Asians, and has used that behavior for the sake of accumulating YouTube views and money, exposing those behavior to millions of his fans, many of which are impressionable young people.
- People are disappointed by her. Some are criticizing her because the 2nd point clearly undermines the 1s point.

What is hard to understand?
 

Cabbagehead

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- A public figure known to advertise herself as a champion for the cause of eliminating racism against Asians.
- Proceed to date someone who are openly racist to Asian people and has shown blatant disrespect towards Asians.
- People are disappointed by her. Some are criticizing her because the 2nd point clearly undermines the 1s point.

What is hard to understand?
'Leave her alone, your trying to mind control her actions!!"

'Random people on the internet!"

But your also a rando? it's funny.
 

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- A public figure known to advertise herself as a champion for the cause of eliminating racism against Asians.
- Proceed to date someone who are openly racist to Asian people and has shown blatant disrespect towards Asians.
- People are disappointed by her. Some are criticizing her because the 2nd point clearly undermines the 1s point.

What is hard to understand?
Someone has to stand for the little guy ! (aka sociopathic racist rich straight white male)
 

subpar spatula

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It feels unnecessary to spell it out but: The only people benefitting from racist shitheads being defended are racist shitheads themselves. Unless you are one yourself, why are you so eager to defend Logan Paul?
I'm not denying his racist past nor am I denying his other behavior. There's nuance to this. Chloe is now dating Logan Paul. Logan Paul, after his incident in Japan, has changed his behavior relating to the things she challenges in Hollywood. It's quite fair to see what Logan Paul has done recently that could show Chloe doesn't care. Like, imagine if her response was, "He's changed". What would be used to prove her otherwise? It appears Chloe had issues with what happened on New Years and they reconciled.
 

Cabbagehead

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I'm not denying his racist past nor am I denying his other behavior. There's nuance to this. Chloe is now dating Logan Paul. Logan Paul, after his incident in Japan, has changed his behavior relating to the things she challenges in Hollywood. It's quite fair to see what Logan Paul has done recently that could show Chloe doesn't care. Like, imagine if her response was, "He's changed". What would be used to prove her otherwise?
Yeah teasing rats in garbage cans is super changed.
 

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I can't hate on the OP, in one instance I actually have hoped for a breakup between two people I don't know. Specifically, I hope Melania dumps Trump, not because I look up to her or anything. But it wouldn't matter who was with him, he should be dumped every time in creatively humiliating ways.
 

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I'm not denying his racist past nor am I denying his other behavior. There's nuance to this. Chloe is now dating Logan Paul. Logan Paul, after his incident in Japan, has changed his behavior relating to the things she challenges in Hollywood. It's quite fair to see what Logan Paul has done recently that could show Chloe doesn't care. Like, imagine if her response was, "He's changed". What would be used to prove her otherwise? It appears Chloe had issues with what happened on New Years and they reconciled.

We don't have to imagine anything. Dude never apologized for his racist actions and remarks. His apology for the suicide forest video coinciding with a perceived decrease in racist behaviour is a weak argument. How would you even quantify that? Does he have to fill a certain quota to be considered racist? Dude is back on his bullshit again, being an asshole in parks and tasering dead rats but because he hasn't publicly done or said anything racist in 7 months I am led to believe that he has reformed? If he has the audacity to benefit financially from his racist antics, he should have the humility to prove in public that he has changed.

Bottomline is, don't defend racist shitheads based on faulty and incomplete information. There's nothing to be gained from that.
 

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We don't have to imagine anything. Dude never apologized for his racist actions and remarks. His apology for the suicide forest video coinciding with a perceived decrease in racist behaviour is a weak argument. How would you even quantify that? Does he have to fill a certain quota to be considered racist? Dude is back on his bullshit again, being an asshole in parks and tasering dead rats but because he hasn't publicly done or said anything racist in 7 months I am led to believe that he has reformed? If he has the audacity to benefit financially from his racist antics, he should have the humility to prove in public that he has changed.

Bottomline is, don't defend racist shitheads based on faulty and incomplete information. There's nothing to be gained from that.
If you can only interpret my argument as just defending Logan Paul for ALL his past acts then we're not going to get anywhere. I've made it pretty obvious that's not what my position is but you can continue to hold that.
 

Nimurai

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For fucks sake. Is he trying to not look racist by dating an asian?
I'll never be able to get this shit out of my mind while watching the show. Fuck Logan Paul. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuùuûů
 

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If you can only interpret my argument as just defending Logan Paul for ALL his past acts then we're not going to get anywhere. I've made it pretty obvious that's not what my position is but you can continue to hold that.

Everybody in this thread can see what hill you picked to build your camp on and we're pointing out that you chose a stupid place to die.
 

Stop It

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Fyi this showed up in my twitter moments and is an article on EW. I didn't intentionally seek this out nor would I personally tweet at her about any of this stuff. Just wanted to share my opinion.

And to all the people saying I'm jealous and mocking me and whatever, thanks for reinforcing the idea that a man can't have a female role model without it simply being a thin excuse for wanting to fuck her. Nice work.

Seriously, you people exhaust me. I realize making the thread was a mistake given most of you don't know who she is or know anything about how outspoken she is about racism, especially among the celebrity/acting world and why this news was particularly upsetting to hear.

Right, because right now you're judging her based on who she is attracted to, which frankly isn't your business.

However if one of the following happens, go nuts:

1: She suddenly downplays her stance against racism, and adopts a "fuck you, got mine" mentality.

2: Logan Paul does something appalling and racist from this day on and Chloe comes out to bat for him.

If that happens, sure, criticism is warranted.

Until then, this is just an other example of someone's personal life not always matching their political one. I've lost count of the amount of people who are married to someone who politically should hate each other. It sounds weird, but when you start a relationship you don't give an interview on your political beliefs do you.
 

WrenchNinja

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If she wants to date a racist, she's free to, but she's hella dumb. "He's changed though" is like one of the least believable phrases in human history.
 

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If my kids ever dated someone like Logan Paul, I'd consider myself a failure as a parent. You don't have pride in yourself as an Asian and date a fucking racist. I've known that Chloe Bennet was with this guy for a long time and her advocacy is next to worthless to me. She also kept quiet during the whole suicide forest thing and that speaks louder than anything else.
 
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Right, because right now you're judging her based on who she is attracted to, which frankly isn't your business.

However if one of the following happens, go nuts:

1: She suddenly downplays her stance against racism, and adopts a "fuck you, got mine" mentality.

2: Logan Paul does something appalling and racist from this day on and Chloe comes out to bat for him.

If that happens, sure, criticism is warranted.

Until then, this is just an other example of someone's personal life not always matching their political one. I've lost count of the amount of people who are married to someone who politically should hate each other. It sounds weird, but when you start a relationship you don't give an interview on your political beliefs do you.

One can argue that she's already downplaying her stance against racism already, by dating someone who has shown that he's willing to openly mock and do racist remarks + acts against Asian people in front of the audience consisted of millions of people, many of which are impressionable young people. One that has never actually apologized for those things, actually.

Also, those people you know are not public figure. Of course public figure also deserve privacy, but they also should be responsible for how they act since they can affect so many people who look up on them. Public figure should be held at a higher standard than normal, ordinary folks, that's just the way it is.
 

Stop It

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One can argue that she's already downplaying her stance against racism already, by dating someone who has shown that he's willing to openly mock and do racist remarks + acts against Asian people in front of the audience consisted of millions of people, many of which are impressionable young people. One that has never actually apologized for those things, actually.

Also, those people you know are not public figure. Of course public figure also deserve privacy, but they also should be responsible for how they act since they can affect so many people who look up on them.
There's plenty of famous cases in the UK of people in politics married to their mortal (political) enemies. https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyl...dons-politically-cloven-couples-10206417.html

In fact, we don't know if Chloe has indeed took Logan to task in private. She may well have done and would be completely justified to do so.

The whole point is that a relationship should not be judged by people who don't know anything other than the superficial. Again, her actions ( and his) going forward are what should be judged, not who someone shared a bed with.
 

Lwyn

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Considering she has complained about injustices especially in Hollywood, this makes her kind of hypocritical.
 

Laserdisk

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Considering she has complained about injustices especially in Hollywood, this makes her kind of hypocritical.
Kind of? I am hugely disappointed in her for this.
She can date who she wants, but if you are vocal about racism then don't date one publicly as I am sure the people you helped will not look fondly on it.
 

TheZodiacAge

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Those in this thread that questioned the person asking the question on twitter are those that actually understood the problem.

There is a complete random person asking a STRANGER a personal question about their private life and kinda demanding a justification.
What gives this person the right to?
Rather put that psycho on a watchlist or something because the person clearly thinks she owes him something probably for liking,retweeting and defending her on twitter.

And no im not targeting anyone here that is discussing this from the perspective of seeing this as the "Celeb news of the day"
Im targeting people asking STRANGERS personal questions and demanding answers and justification for their actions.
I see this so often on twitter&facebook with female twitch&other platform-streamers where people are able to donate,participate in their chats etc and suddenly get tilted once the content provider makes a certain life choice they don't agree with usually related to dating.

This stuff is actually scary.
 

Feral

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be rich and famous and you can get away with being a total asshole. In case this wasn't already public knowledge
she can date whoever she wants, of course
 

Stop It

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Kind of? I am hugely disappointed in her for this.
She can date who she wants, but if you are vocal about racism then don't date one publicly as I am sure the people you helped will not look fondly on it.
Again, solid lefties sleep with the Tories all the time.

They don't wake up on the right side of the bed.

As long as she still helps these people, nothing has changed.

For clarity: I think Logan Paul is a racist asshat and can't see what she sees in him, but hey!
 

Lwyn

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Kind of? I am hugely disappointed in her for this.
She can date who she wants, but if you are vocal about racism then don't date one publicly as I am sure the people you helped will not look fondly on it.

We have to assume there is a chance she used her heritage/race to further her agenda.
 

Laserdisk

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Again, solid lefties sleep with the Tories all the time.

They don't wake up on the right side of the bed.

As long as she still helps these people, nothing has changed.

For clarity: I think Logan Paul is a racist asshat and can't see what she sees in him, but hey!
What message is it sending tho?
If you experience racism, why not try and date that person?
Her stance was so hardline against any from of racism that this just seems like a bump on the head moment.
 

Chaos2Frozen

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Again, solid lefties sleep with the Tories all the time.

They don't wake up on the right side of the bed.

As long as she still helps these people, nothing has changed.

For clarity: I think Logan Paul is a racist asshat and can't see what she sees in him, but hey!

I think things have changed. Now every time she tries to speak out about this stuff it would come attached to all conversations.
 
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