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Splatoon 2 doesn't have any auto cheat detection and now players can't even report cheaters
- Thread starter Atheerios
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They are. Have you even seen GBAtemp and how chaotic it got when Nintendo started doing banwaves of hacked systems? Nintendo is still doing banwaves.
like it's unacceptable that this happens like this but some of you dudes acting like it's happening all of the time... my SO has put in like 1000 hours and she says she's only seen a very few number of cheaters.
Honestly, I can't see Nintendo fixing this based on their past. They don't care enough about server protection and online experience. There are "backup" programs with which you can directly access Nintendo servers and download Wii U, 3DS and Switch games and they never fixed that. Even Splatoon 1 had cheaters and they didn't bother to fix them. Paywall is the only way to stop them but again Nintendo and security are two different worlds.
Fucking cheaters. A bunch of miserable losers. Hopefully Nintendo implements a way to ban those fuckers as soon as they cheat in an online match.
That's actually completely wrong with how the Switch is currently doing things and how it handles certs. Everything is fully encrypted and no one knows how Nintendo is even handling the handshakes between system, cart, and server. And its made hacked systems very identifiable and why there's a major warning from anyone who wants to hack their Switch they should never, ever, go online period.
That... seems like a bit of an overreaction? I play all the time and I have never encountered a cheater or hacker; at least none that I've noticed.
They did a debug and QA for release questions for their western release. Bandai Namco and Pokémon Company are the ones that needs to do something about it in the case of fixing the bugs and putting such options, not Nintendo. In any other game that would be true, not here since it's a project of those two companies since the release on the arcade.
Joke post? Or you people really hate gaming and just like complaining about it. You could play for hours and never see one hacker, plus, they have banned many people for it.
Yup, the upgrade on the protection of the console is much better than past consoles. They were unlucky that Nvidia had an hardware problem, otherwise the hacking scene wouldn't appear like that.
Having to divert development resources toward anti-cheat measures has to suck, but there isn't a better alternative.
Hopefully Nintendo can get a handle of it on the system side, rather than individual developers having to come up with solutions. Hmm, I wonder how Fortnite is faring.
Hopefully Nintendo can get a handle of it on the system side, rather than individual developers having to come up with solutions. Hmm, I wonder how Fortnite is faring.
I speak for myself, but the idea the person who killed me might be hacker, even if there's a 99% chance he just outplayed me, is already enough to ruin the fun. This on top of all other problems the game has is enough for me to just forget about it.
So if someone outplayed you, they are a hacker by default? If that's what you mean, that's a bad mentality to have.
Man, tons of people in this thread acting like Splatoon 2 is some unplayable mess where every match has cheaters. I've literally never encountered a Splatoon 2 (or 1) cheater in my life, and neither has a single person I know who plays it. Why is everyone acting like this is some epidemic that happens regularly? Because it really, really doesn't and I suspect many of the people saying stuff like "Never playing it ever again!" and "Trading it in now!" have never played the game, never owned it and never intend to. Not to mention Nintendo has already been doing a fairly decent job at banning hackers and cheaters.
Cheating sucks, and I really hope Nintendo continues with trying to catch the cheaters and hackers, but some of these responses, goddamn.
Cheating sucks, and I really hope Nintendo continues with trying to catch the cheaters and hackers, but some of these responses, goddamn.
It's how the thread is framed is why. Cheaters are in small amounts and plenty do get banned. Even if they're hiding themselves from the report button, their Switch's are identifiable as hacked system on the server end and will get banned in part of their waves they've been doing.
You didn't understand my point and I'm not going to even try to explain you as you seem that you're just looking for some pointless argument. Whatever honestly..
Your point doesn't really make sense since almost every online game ever has had hackers, so by your logic, you'll never play any multiplayer games ever.
Splatoon 2 was my first multiplayer online game. Is that a problem?
Overreacting thread.
Nintendo IS banning people with a hacked Switch and they just quietly released an unhackable Switch revision. In two months maximum this won't be a problem anymore.
Nintendo IS banning people with a hacked Switch and they just quietly released an unhackable Switch revision. In two months maximum this won't be a problem anymore.
It also won't apply to games like Smash or other fighting games, because those (while P2P) aren't 'trusting' all clients, they just translate input data between systems.
It could/will apply to Pokemon, but we're going to be culling a lot of systems by the time we get to November and new units are patched from the exploit that's been allowing this due to the Tegra flaw, so... dwindling proposition, I'd say.
They be banning them. Yall need to stop acting like they dont. Alot of games got cheating everywhere
What? So instead of answering the question I asked you, you jump to the conclusion of me trying to start an argument? Honestly...
I ask again in case you didn't understand. Are you insinuating that if someone were to outplayed you they're hackers by default?
Afaik for smash all people have to have the same (or similar for cosmetics) mods or else the game just desynchs.
Like if I make my fox fire falcon punches as soon as the first one connects both the person using mods and the one not using them get different results which will end the match due to the game not matching up
Personally, I've only had one hacker in my lobby and out of 135 hours, 100 of those is for online. I know my experience isn't indicative of everyone's but I do feel OP is making it seem like you'll have them every single match like COD4 on 360 right now. The main issues are the P2P and 16hz tickrate. I've dealt with way more issues with players disconnecting (I'm using ethernet lan 100mb down, 10 up) and martydom-style deaths in this game. Game is still fun, but knowing the first Splatoon was and felt better in these two areas is a bummer. I will see if Nintendo takes these issues seriously within a year of their online launch.
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Do you think homebrew devs won't do anything?
A patch for LayeredFS that disables the error reporting to Nintendo (which then Nintendo used to ban people) has been already published and the Atmosphere CFW will completly re-implement Nintendo's logging system so no data gets sent to them (and thus can't ban your console unless you pirate).
Also there's already a software exploit for that "unhackeable" revision that will allow to install CFW (though Nintendo can fix it in a future firmware update).
This is kind of disingenuous. No one knows what people were banned for, there's literally bans for just about everything except the most basic of homebrew. The error codes left in by Scires were definitely one easy to identify culprit but its not a commonality nor ubiquitous and when you also had people get banned because they cleared logs on top of just doing things in complete-offline mode and all the other various random conditions, this statement about disabling/changing the logging system sort of... doesn't mean anything until its actually implemented and we see the bans stop..
... Which they haven't. So something clearly isn't working.
And the logging will always be updated with each firmware, which leads to then having to make sure reporting is synchronous, and so on. Playing around with the logs isn't some magic bullet and Scires doesn't warn against online -> ban risk for shits and giggles.
(Deja is patched as of 5.0, the exploit chain needs a different and currently unknown-to-exist execution path.)
Thats surprising. You have never encountered a cheater on another console?
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That's another obvious reason that even SciresM talked about.. If your console suddenly goes from 32 errors to 0 errors something is wrong.
It's not question to agree or disagree. I already said, that's not Nintendo. Nintendo just published the title on the west and unlike in other cases in the Pokémon franchise, TPC published the title alone in Japan. Pokémon Company is the publisher responsible for the title, not Nintendo since here they had no publishing functions on the original release, just on the western side. I'll reiterate that TPC is the company who needs to tell Bandai Namco to do it.
In the case of Splatoon 2 with Nintendo as a publisher, it's obvious who's the one who need to do it. There's no argument here and I don't know why this is even a discussion to happen.
Yes, and if your system keeps reporting the same error logs over and over... something is wrong. Log-altering isn't easy unless you are the one writing the expectations which... we aren't.
You can make a believable spoof but you also have to be very careful around it.
This is the big one.
Nintendo gonna Nintendo online, even for a price.
