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It has been sad to see Stephen Colbert turn into a hack
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I still find his show hilarious. I mostly just watch the monologues and the guests who are of interest. It was a poor joke but it didn't really ruin my week.
"OOOOOOH"
"YEEEEAAAH"
"HE GON' [repeat last 2-3 words Colbert said]"
Can get a bit tad on the annoying. :P
They're a great band but have to admit that Batiste's constant
"OOOOOOH"
"YEEEEAAAH"
"HE GON' [repeat last 2-3 words Colbert said]"
Can get a bit tad on the annoying. :P
Anyone who saw his early episodes and the shit he did to try and make some of the garbage people he had come on his show comfortable would not be able to stomach this new version of him. It's amazing how so many people have no idea how sad of a turn this has been.
Late night comedy is essentially dead. Meyers can deliver a joke well, but holy shit is the Trump stuff tiring at this point. Especially with his support for the anti-sex worker bill. I just don't believe any of these people are genuine. Oliver gets domestic politics often right, but then he will devote an entire segment to some bullshit neo-liberal garbage and kill my entire desire to watch anymore. Samantha Bee and Noah. Ugh. Bee's show is clearly written by some people with emotion and energy which I love, but she often targets people that she shouldn't.
Late night comedy is essentially dead. Meyers can deliver a joke well, but holy shit is the Trump stuff tiring at this point. Especially with his support for the anti-sex worker bill. I just don't believe any of these people are genuine. Oliver gets domestic politics often right, but then he will devote an entire segment to some bullshit neo-liberal garbage and kill my entire desire to watch anymore. Samantha Bee and Noah. Ugh. Bee's show is clearly written by some people with emotion and energy which I love, but she often targets people that she shouldn't.
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But that's the origin of the insult. When people called a guy a cocksucker back in the day, they were saying they were gay, with the underlying implication being that gayness is bad.
The format is terrible for him and his cohost doesn't really give him anything to work with. He needs a Max Weinberg like relationship with someone to play off his jokes with
Lol it actually is but I understand it's easier to be dismissive of your own choice of words than trying to see the positive intent of anothers, especially from a proven progressive.
The punchline is that he's subservient to a literal tyrant. Calling him his cockholster is because they are two men, so you need to describe a sexual act between two men, and since it's putin, describe it in a very one directional way. But the gay part isn't the part that's meant to be laughed at. It's alright to be gay. It's maybe not alright to be gay for Putin.
As someone who loved his work history from Strangers with Candy, The Daily Show, and Colbert Report, it's a little off putting when I watch a new broadcast now and I feel like I'm watching a 2 year old rerun. Still with the HE'S ORANGE, PEOPLE! type routine.
I can't believe so many people agree with the OP. People are so fickle I find this ridiculous.
Yeah, Colbert isn't as straight up funny anymore. A nightly format will kill the quality of your writing. But that's not his value to our base. It's left-leaning edutainment, and as far as that goes, Colbert is setting the bar pretty goddamn high. Especially considering the format.
I don't watch his monologues every morning on YouTube for the guffaws (though if he makes me laugh, even better), I watch him to get a humorous perspective on daily political events and hopefully catch anything I might have missed. Yeah, it sucks that he's been pulled into eye of the Trump vortex, but if anyone's going to set up shop there, there isn't a single person more qualified as far as I'm concerned, and someone had to set up shop there.
Might as well have been Colbert.
You guys are seriously taking Colbert for granted.
Yeah, Colbert isn't as straight up funny anymore. A nightly format will kill the quality of your writing. But that's not his value to our base. It's left-leaning edutainment, and as far as that goes, Colbert is setting the bar pretty goddamn high. Especially considering the format.
I don't watch his monologues every morning on YouTube for the guffaws (though if he makes me laugh, even better), I watch him to get a humorous perspective on daily political events and hopefully catch anything I might have missed. Yeah, it sucks that he's been pulled into eye of the Trump vortex, but if anyone's going to set up shop there, there isn't a single person more qualified as far as I'm concerned, and someone had to set up shop there.
Might as well have been Colbert.
You guys are seriously taking Colbert for granted.
haha i actually have grown to love it. He is such a pure fun happy guy who is super positive that it bleeds over and i look forward to his banter, jingles and random faces he makes.
Stephen's jokes have always been hit or miss, but he's still my favorite late night host and I always watch his monologues and other news segments. I'm also a big fan of some of his celebrity skits. Especially Big Questions with Even Bigger Stars and whatever the faces in a box one is called lol.
Well he is the shiniest turd in the toilet bowl of late night network television.
Late night on the big networks has always been sanitized for broad appeal. I agree that it's sad to watch him devolve like this. However, I am happy for guy. He paid his dues and his assension to Letterman's throne is well deserved.
Late night on the big networks has always been sanitized for broad appeal. I agree that it's sad to watch him devolve like this. However, I am happy for guy. He paid his dues and his assension to Letterman's throne is well deserved.
No dismissal needed: I'm totally open to listening to criticisms about my use of that word. Just not from you or anybody else whose whole impetus to bring it up is defending the cock holster joke.
I dunno, if I were ever going to start one of these "how the mighty have fallen" posts, I think I'd like to try to use at least a few more than one example to back up my argument. You can achieve that low-bar for his "disgrace" even back in his Colbert Report days. Even as much as I'd agree that Colbert Report is "peak" Colbert, he does plenty more insightful, scathing political humor on his current Late Show, than the OP would lead you to believe.
Why on earth is this news? lol They'll be talking about this new judge for months and years to come, there will be good jokes and there will be lots of bad ones, too.
A joke about how he doesn't know a guy that came out of fucking nowhere in the public consciousness, followed by minutes of explanatory information about who he is, is not Colbert being a hack, it's you not understanding basic satire.
Like, he goes through a whole slew of examples of the guy's history, did you even watch it, OP, or are you just giving us second-hand takes?
Like, he goes through a whole slew of examples of the guy's history, did you even watch it, OP, or are you just giving us second-hand takes?
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Some of y'all a bunch of hipsters. Do some of you like anything? I didn't like Colbert initially but once he started going hard on Trump, I became a fan. He's funny and I'm glad he is doing well. I like Seth too and can stomach Kimmel and they all seem pretty sincere and passionate.
I found it pretty distasteful that he had anything to do with that cartoon president show about Trump.
Fucking normalizing the hell out of this shit show.
As a disclaimer though I should say I generally like Colbert even now, but nothing can ever top Colbert Report which I watched religiously throughout its entire run.
Fucking normalizing the hell out of this shit show.
As a disclaimer though I should say I generally like Colbert even now, but nothing can ever top Colbert Report which I watched religiously throughout its entire run.
Agreed. And his occasional laughs/quips are very much in the vein of Paul Shaffer.
I was the opposite. It was a short while after he started doing that I started feeling like the jokes on the show were getting stale. I guess that's the nature of Late Night, since they have to get a show done so often.
I miss Colbert Report and his old actin' days of Strangers with Candy and stuff.
His show was genuinely terrible before Trump was elected, and honestly I don't think he would have lasted much longer before that. I remember the last show I was watching pre-Trump days and he set up an act for almost ten minutes of him holding a Captain America shield as Chris Evans threw a tennis ball at him. Then they showed it in slo-mo. It was like them wanting to get viral hits like Fallon but not having a clue how to set up anything like that.
Now it's very low hanging fruit and he basically sleepwalks his way through each night with the easiest of jokes. Seth Meyers is easily better, no question.
His show was genuinely terrible before Trump was elected, and honestly I don't think he would have lasted much longer before that. I remember the last show I was watching pre-Trump days and he set up an act for almost ten minutes of him holding a Captain America shield as Chris Evans threw a tennis ball at him. Then they showed it in slo-mo. It was like them wanting to get viral hits like Fallon but not having a clue how to set up anything like that.
Now it's very low hanging fruit and he basically sleepwalks his way through each night with the easiest of jokes. Seth Meyers is easily better, no question.
Yeah. It's all about Trump. He was funny the first 20 times. But every show is the same. Yawnnnn.. zzzz
Pretty sure the implication was that Trump is Putin's whore and sucks his dick and being that to Putin in particular is bad. Not that being gay is bad. Just being such an asslicker of a fascist leader of a country considered hostile towards US.
Edit: Poor response on my part; feigned outrage from conservatives, even in incredibly small numbers, still fits with your comment.
Are people not old enough to remember the nightly 90s stampede of Clinton and OJ jokes? Those lasted well into the early 2000s, every night, ad nauseam. At least when Colbert and others bring up politics it's a reaction to new things. Leno basically made an entire decade out "That wily Bill Clinton!"
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This kind of thing gets pushed if you know what I mean.
I wonder what op's intention was
That was the most echo chamber of all echo chambers, though.
This is a weird example why he "turned into a hack".
It's the transcription of a mediocre joke. Why not show an actual example of some terrible jokes.
This is just a standard "We had 5 hours to write a show" kinda joke
It's the transcription of a mediocre joke. Why not show an actual example of some terrible jokes.
This is just a standard "We had 5 hours to write a show" kinda joke
Havent been a fan since 2016
I like trump jokes, but as a non american it gets tiring when the whole monologues about the new stupid thing he said
I understand why colbert ought to bring up trumps stupidity but doesnt mean I have to find it funny
I like trump jokes, but as a non american it gets tiring when the whole monologues about the new stupid thing he said
I understand why colbert ought to bring up trumps stupidity but doesnt mean I have to find it funny
At least he had a message with Colbert Report. I think he sold out by going on the Late Show and it really shows. The segments with Stewart always seemed like a sad attempt to recapture the past.
This. Plus damn, just cause you don't like him anymore doesn't make him a hack. People's taste changes. His show is way different than before too. Like damn.
I've never seen Meyer's show, but I did like him alright on SNL. Maybe I should check it out. I miss Ferguson.
Meyer's is probably the single most relatable person working in late night right now and is a solid writer with a good team behind him, but I hate his delivery. I was fine with it until recently, when something clicked in my brain and now I can't ignore his mannerisms and cadence.
I think Colbert is one of the most consistent hosts in late night currently. The only other person as consistently on-point as him is Seth Meyers. The problem is people who were fans of him on The Daily Show and The Colbert Report are missing that extra edge and spice he had because he was younger, on a network that let him be more wild, and had less to lose. Now he's taken over for -the- name in late night so he wants to stick to his roots and stay political, but he can't get as weird or as deep because he and the staff on his show want him to retain Letterman-level numbers, not Colbert Report-level numbers, so he has to broaden his topics off just "today in politics". Everyone has shows where you think "this isn't as funny as last night" and you have to expect that. But even with that said, I find his show way more enjoyable than Fallon, James Corden, and Trevor Noah, of which the first two are basically just celebrity slideshows.
Trump dominates the news every single day. It's unavoidable. There is really nothing more pressing to talk about, or ripe to make fun of, than whatever the Trump administration is doing to destroy the country that day.
You see, because it's a comedy show he made a joke about his name being Brett. I could see any other late night show make that joke and I could see him making that joke about a liberal judge too.
I think you're reading "resistance" messages into every single joke is more your problem than Colbert's.
I think you're reading "resistance" messages into every single joke is more your problem than Colbert's.
I love Colbert. He actually makes me tune into the monologue which I normally would not give a good damn about, for any late night show.
His interviews are inconsistent though. And his rapport with Batiste is terrible. Sometimes awkwardly terrible. You never want awkward. I realize their run is only three years in but damn. Also it must be tough to succeed Dave and Paul, those two played off each other so well.
His interviews are inconsistent though. And his rapport with Batiste is terrible. Sometimes awkwardly terrible. You never want awkward. I realize their run is only three years in but damn. Also it must be tough to succeed Dave and Paul, those two played off each other so well.