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TheWraith

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Oct 28, 2017
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Black folks are getting shot without recourse. We can drop the facade of "law".
Please read my comment again, I said it is not really a democracy but at least far better then one-party dictatorships. Yes, there is lots of troubling things going on, but at least there are laws and there is legal recourse possible. To my knowledge the US doesn't currently jail black famlies into concentration camps in the 100,000's without any legal recourse just for being black, as just a small example.
 

abracadaver

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Nov 30, 2017
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Vern

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Oct 26, 2017
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Then please don't say make any uneducated blanket comments which are not true. The situation in China has only worsened when Xi came to power. Here is just a small example, among the many of someone in Shanghai who "disappeared", no arrest warrants, nothing for speaking out:

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2018/07/...xi-jinping-poster-twitter-account-disappears/


Obviously this is different than just talking shit about the government with your friends. Once again, you won't get disappeared for speaking out against the government here. You run into problems when you publicize it or share it or incite unrest/protest, or in this case "vandalize" Xi's image, and as well as do those things. I am not saying that this is ok, I'm saying you are talking about 2 different things.

Talking shit about the government is fine, no one cares. Spreading it online or organizing a public protest is a problem. If everyone that complained about Xi or the government got disappeared there wouldn't be any Chinese people left.
 

TheWraith

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Oct 28, 2017
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Just seems like you don't like someone who lives here and knows how things work telling you your sendationalism doesn't help and isn't correct.
I have lived in China, now living in Hong Kong and still travel there very frequently, speak two Chinese languages, and have many friends there. I think it would be best to take off the rose-colored glasses and look behind the facade, I don't buy into sensationalism.
 
Of course surveillance like this is bad and troubling in any country, and the US is far from a real democracy - but in one-party dictatorships like China it is far, far more worrying of course. In the US at least there is a rule of law, and at least some kind of minimum of checks and balances are in place. It is very important to make that distinction.
Mass surveillance is better in America because of the "rule of law"?

Ok.
 

Sedated

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Apr 13, 2018
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This is the future. Privacy outside of home i.e where you go, what you do with whom in public places will be non existent with cameras tracking your every movement. China is embracing it early and the rest will try fight back but give in eventually later.
 

Lady Murasaki

Scary Shiny Glasses
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Oct 25, 2017
680
Read the article scared af but couldn't avoid thinking how cool the pictures look lol This one is particularly good.

Maybe I read cyberpunk a little bit too much.

PS: But seriously, this is really scary. I wouldn't be surprised if we experience living in a full cyber society if we millennials manage to live until our 60's.

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