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Deleted member 25606

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Oct 29, 2017
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Mad suss.

Probably the same people that couldn't relate to CJ in San Andreas but relate to mythical beings in other games and find '1,000' year old anime dragons attractive.
That's one way to put it. Now that's a subject I get pissy about, especially since even with his flaws CJ is still my favorite. But I guess I just don't have those "I can't relate to him" issues.
 

zoukka

Game Developer
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
2,361
People outside my IT/Game industry bubble probably find my way of speaking incredibly annoying xD
 

Hassel

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,363
I like slang when communicating with my Cupertino.
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,977
Out of touch people yelling at clouds or something.

If talking about slang in general, let people express themselves how they wish as long as it's not hate speech related or intolerant by nature - then it needs to be called out.
 

MarineMountie

Banned
Jan 18, 2018
456
They should be more self-critical because everybody has their own slang.

I took it as trendy slang that come from Twitter or other social media that people decide to use in real life. Lit, bae, rekt, etc...almost like the person using it is trying hard to seem hip. Cultural slang like bro, hella, or whatever else is just that. Cultural or regional. That doesn't annoy me at all.
 

GamerJM

Member
Nov 8, 2017
15,645
It's silly but if that's their worst offense, I'll let them be mad. It's not a big deal.
 
Nov 30, 2017
809
It's a children's hospital. I can't be having naked asses showing on the main floor of a children's hospital. Sorry if you disagree with that.

How does naked asses correlate to "if someone doesn't speak English the way I deem appropriate, they must be lesser educated than me" position that you hold, which I'm sure if we examine is nothing but racism wrapped in a linguistics argument with a false premise that SAE is the gold standard of language.

Edit: also spoiler, all the slang you listed was in common usage regionally before it hit the internet. So your argument still doesn't hold any water.
 

TopherDL

Member
Oct 25, 2017
375
All I ask is that folks be consistent. I find it curious when people are annoyed by one particular type of slang but are seemingly okay with others. It's a completely arbitrary distinction.

Also, slang is just a part of the natural process of how language evolves over time. We'd all sound like a bunch of morons to English speakers from 1000 years ago.
 

skillzilla81

Self-requested temporary ban
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Oct 25, 2017
10,043


I code switch like a motherfucker. Lots of people in this thread already getting the side-eye.
 

DigitalOp

Member
Nov 16, 2017
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I took it as trendy slang that come from Twitter or other social media that people decide to use in real life. Lit, bae, rekt, etc...almost like the person using it is trying hard to seem hip. Cultural slang like bro, hella, or whatever else is just that. Cultural or regional. That doesn't annoy me at all.

I don't know what's funnier,

The idea you think lit or bae isn't cultural or that you think they originated in the internet

You sound like you in a midlife crisis lol
 

Achire

Member
Oct 27, 2017
456
In Finnish the spoken and written language have a certain level of divergence. Whenever I hear people speak exactly as written (and not the local or other regional dialect), I get the impression that they're either sociopaths or autistic. The only time a normal human being might do that is when teaching their small children to speak.
 

MarineMountie

Banned
Jan 18, 2018
456
How does naked asses correlate to "if someone doesn't speak English the way I deem appropriate, they must be lesser educated than me" position that you hold, which I'm sure if we examine is nothing but racism wrapped in a linguistics argument with a false premise that SAE is the gold standard of language.

Edit: also spoiler, all the slang you listed was in common usage regionally before it hit the internet. So your argument still doesn't hold any water.

The post I responded to mentioned slang and clothing. Good on you for calling me a racist though. I guess it's ok around here to slander people directly because they don't like trendy slang words or asks someone to pull their pants up while walking around a children's hospital. If you don't like my stance, that's fine. I'm not personally attacking you for your stance. Just leave it be. Toxicity on this forum is the worst I have ever seen on any forum I visit.
 

skillzilla81

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Oct 25, 2017
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The post I responded to mentioned slang and clothing. Good on you for calling me a racist though. I guess it's ok around here to slander people directly because they don't like trendy slang words or asks someone to pull their pants up while walking around a children's hospital. If you don't like my stance, that's fine. I'm not personally attacking you for your stance. Just leave it be. Toxicity on this forum is the worst I have ever seen on any forum I visit.

Ya'll people that read that something might be wrapped in racism and construe it as somebody calling you racist are funny.
 

skillzilla81

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Oct 25, 2017
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"I'm sure if we examine is nothing more than racism"

There was no "might" in there.

/shrug valuing academic or "regular" english over slang and other dialects is absolutely wrapped in racism. Still didn't call you a racist. Said something you are doing is wrapped in racist elements.

Go back to those other forums, fam.
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,177
It's always weird because a lot of folks that rail against it, end up co-opting it.
 

crienne

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,176
Only got a problem with it when some suburban-ass teenager goes around using appropriated slang.

Otherwise, I'm all for slang. Hell, I'm 34 and my girlfriend and I use slang we made up ourselves. It's just a part of our vocab now.
 
Nov 30, 2017
809
The post I responded to mentioned slang and clothing. Good on you for calling me a racist though. I guess it's ok around here to slander people directly because they don't like trendy slang words or asks someone to pull their pants up while walking around a children's hospital. If you don't like my stance, that's fine. I'm not personally attacking you for your stance. Just leave it be. Toxicity on this forum is the worst I have ever seen on any forum I visit.

Show me where I ever called you a racist. If EYE wanted to call you a racist it's literally the first thing I would have said with zero ambiguity.

But you can't, because you just made it up in order to not be held accountable for your beliefs and change the conversation to how you are the real victim here.

But thanks for admitting that you are racist (and read the Fox News playbook of racism no less) through projection I guess, so maybe you should do the work of unpacking why you think certain slang is evidence of them being lesser than yourself.

Good luck and god speed.
 

Lord Brady

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Oct 26, 2017
8,392
Depends on where it's used. If I see it in the press, I stop reading that outlet. Huffpo for example do this a lot and not coincidentally are a joke news outlet now. I presume that happened after Ariana left.
 

Deleted member 2109

User-requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
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My kid picked up bruv and mate from some British YouTuber. It's pretty annoying. Hoping he gets it out of his system before school starts back up.
 

MarineMountie

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Jan 18, 2018
456
Show me where I ever called you a racist. If EYE wanted to call you a racist it's literally the first thing I would have said with zero ambiguity.

But you can't, because you just made it up in order to not be held accountable for your beliefs and change the conversation to how you are the real victim here.

But thanks for admitting that you are racist (and read the Fox News playbook of racism no less) through projection I guess, so maybe you should do the work of unpacking why you think certain slang is evidence of them being lesser than yourself.

Good luck and god speed.

Real victim? There is no victim in this argument. How would I be the "real" victim when there is no victim at all? Also, you keep saying I'm racist, yet every race on Earth uses the trendy internet slang of the month. So.....yea. Real racist there.

I said that I value verbal skills as the first sign of ones maturity level. Not that they are "lesser" than I am. Those are your words. Not mine. People can talk however they like and use whatever slang they want. I don't think they are lesser than me, that would be ridiculous. Stop putting words in people's mouths and stop falsly accusing people that you don't know anything about of being racist. That is not ok and shows your lack of character.
 

Mr. X

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Oct 25, 2017
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From experience getting shit for ax instead of ask, shit was definitely prejudice or classist.
 

Cilidra

A friend is worth more than a million Venezuelan$
Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Ottawa
I adapt to whomever I am talking to. I deal with the public a lot and I don't talk the same if I am dealing with someone with a medical background (I am a vet) or if I am dealing with someone with low education and has very 'slang' version of language (French or English, where I live it's about 30% to 70%). I do try to carry the information in way they will understand better and in the language they understand better, not 'using the proper terms' unless they will understand it. People do appreciate that and often made the comment to me 'Doc I really like you, you explain a way I can understand'.

I don't take offence to slang, but I usually will only use slang words that have clear meaning in the context.
 

skillzilla81

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Real victim? There is no victim in this argument. How would I be the "real" victim when there is no victim at all? Also, you keep saying I'm racist, yet every race on Earth uses the trendy internet slang of the month. So.....yea. Real racist there.

I said that I value verbal skills as the first sign of ones maturity level. Not that they are "lesser" than I am. Those are your words. Not mine. People can talk however they like and use whatever slang they want. I don't think they are lesser than me, that would be ridiculous. Stop putting words in people's mouths and stop falsly accusing people that you don't know anything about of being racist. That is not ok and shows your lack of character.

So verbal skills are a sign of one's maturity level, but you don't think those that don't meet your arbitrary standards are lesser than you? Then why use the words "maturity level" which imply outright that one can not be on your "level" in "maturity" (whatever that means)? Who dictates what verbal skills are valuable? What language is deemed most acceptable and least acceptable? By whom?
 

Panther2103

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Oct 27, 2017
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Slang is fine. Every word morphs over time anyways, so common words now a days were slang a while back. I don't really think it's fair to be bothered by it, there have been times I've heard slang and thought about how stupid it sounds, but oh well, people can talk how they want.
 

synkling

Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Florida Man's Land
I grew up being told that I was better than peers of similar color because I often spoke properly, and enunciating all my words in a way resulted in me being told I "spoke White". This manner of speaking was usually followed up by "Don't be like those thugs," being the favored word at the time for people of that breed.

It sure was damaging to be internally racist for most of my teenage life, until my influenced viewpoint of the world was shattered by making some friends whose entire vocabulary consisted of slang amidst completely intellectual conversation.

The real blessing was the fact that I never managed to hurt anyone but myself in my period of arrogant youth. Heavens, what if I was in, say, a position of power? Could you imagine someone so subtly racist to a group, to the point where they'd go out of their way to demolish one's life just because they were raised to dismiss anyone who didn't look, speak or afford things like you?

That'd be dangerous af.
 

UltimateHigh

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Oct 25, 2017
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racism or oldness, or both.

it was mostly push back against different cultures in my experience i.e racism.
 

Volimar

volunteer forum janitor
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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm only bothered if it's crude or vulgar. I have an 18 year old so I hear a lot of young people talk.
 

runlikehell

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Oct 26, 2017
871
People who are bothered by slang are usually the types to instigate nofunallowed.jpg style nonsense in all social interactions/situations.
 

Dr. Doom

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,509
What truly irks me is when people don't use proper sentences and grammar in Whatsapp or any kind of written communication. Text speak is the worst.

My kid picked up bruv and mate from some British YouTuber. It's pretty annoying. Hoping he gets it out of his system before school starts back up.
listen bruv you'll be ok fam
 

HardRojo

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,138
Peru
Using slang is all we do here in Peru, it'd be really boring to communicate without it and we even go the extra mile and use slang for slang.
 

crienne

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,176
What truly irks me is when people don't use proper sentences and grammar in Whatsapp or any kind of written communication. Text speak is the worst.


listen bruv you'll be ok fam

"Text speak" or "netspeak" or whatever you want to call it has evolved to its current state where there are clear "dialects" in play based on the slang that's used.

But hey, I'm not going to judge you one way or another for not liking what you don't like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

shintoki

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Oct 25, 2017
15,123
I feel like slang went from something cool, to whomever spends the most time online now.

Doesn't really bother me as much as it's pretty funny seeing kids come up with new ways to say the same thing. Lol
 

Lil Peanut Brotha

Motion Graphics Artist at Riot Games
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Oct 25, 2017
670
CA, USA
I grew up around a lot of people who are relatively obsessed with European-derived etiquette and have been raised thinking it's the "proper" or "correct" way to do things. Very bourgeois attitudes, if you will. I used to be like this as well in some regards; in terms of speaking I had it drilled in my head to enunciate, and that language is far less fluid/dynamic than it actually is. A lot of folks seem to not be able to function outside of a clearly written list of rules (you can see this also come out in them when they act like social dynamics don't exist and just resort to "is there a law against this thing I did?" to defend their actions). I also know some rednecks who mock any kind of slang that they aren't used to because they see it on the Internet and associate it with attention-seeking youth who "don't know what the real world is like" or some shit like that.

Fortunately as I grew older and I started spending more time online and hanging around more people with varied dialects, and was introduced to their respective cultures, I dropped that shit. But a lot of others didn't, and still lord over other people because they see slang or dialects as "uneducated", "uncivilized", "classless", "immature", "thoughtless", or whatever other way you can word that kind of judgment.


As I've learned more about dogwhistles this started becoming apparent as well. In my area I think it's both expressing a pre-existing disdain for a group of people, as well as expressing disdain for the slang because it's different/perceived as "not proper" (especially since there is little diversity where I grew up which encourages homogeny) which ends up being attributed to whatever group speaks it over time due to it being a product of the influences you described.

And I think that latter part is an aspect of racism that a lot of privileged folks don't understand is racism because (again going back to the "clearly written list of rules" thing) it doesn't fit the dictionary definition of racism being personal prejudice. But looking down your nose at others' use of language because it's different than yours - assuming everyone should adopt your strict standards regardless of someone's culture or the internal consistency of their slang/dialect, refusing to acknowledge the dynamics of culture and language and all of that, and assuming someone is somehow lesser because of their different use of language - is thoughtless, needlessly dismissive, self-absorbed/self-righteous, and it contributes to negative stereotypes and carelessly marginalizes other peoples which in turn perpetuates prejudices including racism.

It's just different ways of expressing one's self ffs

So when I see someone who is bothered by slang, part of me assumes that they're either too stuck up to accept that their way isn't the only way, are extremely boring/vanilla people, or are simply prejudiced.

Give this man some ERA-gold, perfectly said. Also, dat was hella concise my duder.

The world is a huge place full of awesome smart people who use language differently and creatively, or just have fun with it. It's crazy people can't see that, or realize proper English is just slang with a published rule book.
 

Musubi

Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
23,611
If you've got nothing better to do than get upset about how people talk you need to go find a fucking hobby.
 

Strangelove_77

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,392
I don't care one way or another. Talk how you want. I personally don't use current slang though. I don't like keeping up with...anything.
I sometimes will use old 80s or 90s slang, though often sarcastically.

As long as I get the gist of of what someone's saying then I'm fine with it. That's all anyone can ask for really.
 
Nov 30, 2017
809
Real victim? There is no victim in this argument. How would I be the "real" victim when there is no victim at all? Also, you keep saying I'm racist, yet every race on Earth uses the trendy internet slang of the month. So.....yea. Real racist there.

I said that I value verbal skills as the first sign of ones maturity level. Not that they are "lesser" than I am. Those are your words. Not mine. People can talk however they like and use whatever slang they want. I don't think they are lesser than me, that would be ridiculous. Stop putting words in people's mouths and stop falsly accusing people that you don't know anything about of being racist. That is not ok and shows your lack of character.

So they aren't "lesser", you're just more mature and smarter because you hold SAE as the gold standard. Your culture is the most "mature", and dialects that you don't hold high in value are "immature".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_discrimination

So you're not racist, just prejudiced.

Against the language borne from Black America.

As a white dude.

Ok.