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Shauni

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,728
At my company we actually have the feedback written up, we just don't share it with the applicant. The reason is that some people just can't handle getting negative criticism, and if you give it to them will not believe it and instead think that it must be discrimination. Then they start harassing the company or try to file a lawsuit. This is why a lot of companies have a policy not to share feedback with the employee, because it protects them.

Even if it is only 1 in 100 applicants who is like this, they can cause enough trouble to scare employers off of sharing feedback. Especially because there is no particular incentive for employers to share the info.

Then why write any feedback? That doesn't make any sense.
 

gozu

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,315
America
Unfortunately once they decide to not go with you in most companies non hr employees are not allowed to interact with you anymore. To avoid anything that could come up they just send the same rejection notice to everyone if they send anything at all.

Yep. You can get sued for appearing to reject an applicant for the wrong reasons so no feedback is less risky than feedback that might backfire on the company.

OP is right that it's not super classy of them, but at least they gave him quick rejection. That's vital. Rating: B-
 

RogerK

Banned
Feb 3, 2018
296
If he didn't like my work, then fair enough, but I spent a good amount of time piecing together a video that they personally requested of me. All that to get a soulless copy and paste rejection letter, it feels shitty. If this was a rejection letter after an interview, then whatever, not a big deal at all. I shurg my shoulders when that happens, but this felt insulting to me. I felt like I just wasted two full days, that time I could have spent working on other projects and applying to other jobs. Has this ever happened to anyone else?
I mean...that's job searching for you. I've spent weeks interviewing with a company, even taking their technical programming exam only to receive a similar response in the end. You're skills weren't what they were looking for and/or they had a better applicant, no need to get upset about it, move on to the next one.
 
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Hyun Sai

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,562
You got a response and don't have to live in false hope. That's pretty respectful. Focus on what's next.
 

PancakeFlip

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,918
This sounds like they had more candidates doing this than they should have. I've only ever seen this done when it was down to like 2 or 3 people where it would be easier to provide feedback.

"We decided to go with other canidates" makes more sense than "Your style doesn't match ours and we won't explain why".

I recommend you try and add something more technical to your skillset, like learn a new editing program thats asked for a lot. Relying on something that is influenced heavily by opinion and taste is a recipe for disaster.
 

Ferny

FutureERA
Member
Oct 23, 2017
658
The fact that you got a rejection email at all is better than most. It seems like a standard rejection line. I wouldn't take it personal.
 

Ebullientprism

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,529
Generally I would say that is pretty standard and you have no reason to be upset.

But considering they had you do a serious try out and invest time and effort into doing a "test" they probably owed you more than a copy and paste email template.

Then again, chances are they are doing this because at some point they might have given more detailed feedback to some guy who turned out to be a cretin. So now they just dont bother.
 

The Albatross

Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,981
I think the response is fine. They gave you a reason, "Unfortunately, the style is not a fit for us at this time."

They don't have to give you a critique of your work, you're not paying them for a service and they're not your manager. I think the reason you might be upset, now, is that you spent a lot of time working on the video, and they did not spend as much time reviewing your video, that there's a perception that your level of effort is much greater than their level of effort. But, when it comes to applying for jobs, that's how it goes, because when you land one, they pay you money which compensates for your level of effort.

That said, I'd be suspicious of any company that had me do two days worth of work for an application. I once put a lot of effort into a coding exam for a company, and while I got the job, I was really suspicious of the exam because it seemed like they were having me do a project for them before getting hired. Ultimately, that wasn't the case, but I only knew that because I got hired and eventually became the person proctoring those exams for people we were interviewing in the future, but if I didn't get the job at the time I would have been really suspicious of it.
 

Potterson

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,410
They probably had tons of other people editing the same video, so it may be hard to actually give you feedback. Because I assume you would want a REAL feedback, not something they came up with in couple of minutes.
 
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Jangowuzhere

Jangowuzhere

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,505
Alright, I overreacted when I made this thread. Yes, I am still relatively new to job searching, but this was the first time I had to put in days of actual work when applying, so getting a soulless copy and paste feedback did not feel good in the least. I'll accept that this is par for the course from now on, and I will be more cautious about applying for work that requires me to put in days of work as an application.

Thanks everyone for your responses and feedback

...Except for the two responses in this thread saying "They dodged a bullet hiring you." That is a level of trashiness that I would expect from a youtube comment. What's worse is that there is actual constructive feedback in these posts, but then there's the insulting paragraph that's simply there to be shitty for no reason. If you want to complain about someone's immaturity next time, then maybe take a look at what you're writing as a response.
 
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LProtagonist

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
7,576
In like a "this is how business works and you should be insulted how people are treated as commodities" kinda way, maybe, yeah.
 

Beardz

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
284
I think they need to hire someone to answer everybody (in detail) why the got rejected, AND every candidate should receive a "You tried" medal in their mail and a free coupon for Starbucks.
 

carlsojo

Member
Oct 28, 2017
33,761
San Francisco
At my company we actually have the feedback written up, we just don't share it with the applicant. The reason is that some people just can't handle getting negative criticism, and if you give it to them will not believe it and instead think that it must be discrimination. Then they start harassing the company or try to file a lawsuit. This is why a lot of companies have a policy not to share feedback with the employee, because it protects them.

Even if it is only 1 in 100 applicants who is like this, they can cause enough trouble to scare employers off of sharing feedback. Especially because there is no particular incentive for employers to share the info.

Someone overreact to being rejected from a job? Where have I seen that before?
 
Oct 31, 2017
683
Responses like that are bullshit if you're made to take a long and involved skill test. It's one thing if it was just a 30 minute phone interview but to make a candidate take a test and not even have the decency to give feedback is terrible.

Nailed it. This candidate was asked to put in a lot of time into his application.

OP if the company stiffed you like this, they probably would have worked you to the bone and compensation wouldn't have been appropriate. Them not hiring you is for your best.
 

Beardz

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
284
Annnnd OP should consider than maybe how fast you could do it was a factor, I mean it was YouTube content after all.
 

Ryaaan14

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,055
Chicago
...Except for the two responses in this thread saying "They dodged a bullet hiring you." That is a level of trashiness that I would expect from a youtube comment. What's worse is that there is actual constructive feedback in these posts, but then there's the insulting paragraph that's simply there to be shitty for no reason. If you want to complain about someone's immaturity next time, then maybe take a look at what you're writing as a response.

Sometimes getting your ass kicked by a comment is the best way to learn. Don't take things so personally.
 

Kyrios

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,622
You are lucky they even bothered to notify you.

This. Applying to schools (employment, not enrollment) is the worst, they never get back to you. But they also have an absurd amount of applicants so in a way I understand they can't get to everyone. But an automated rejection email would have been nice.

I think the only place that ever sent me a personalized rejection letter was Princeton University for a major position.
 

Gaf Zombie

The Fallen
Dec 13, 2017
2,239
At least they responded so you know? Some people don't even bother doing that.

I wouldn't be insulted by it.

True. When I was on the job hunt I appreciated just hearing something back. A lot of times they just ghost. Although with the tight labor market I've heard that candidates have been ghosting employers either mid-process or just not showing up to work on the first day. And that brings just a little bit of warmth to this cold heart.
 

DorkyMohr

User requested ban
Banned
Nov 11, 2017
110
It's nice when companies leave feedback but they're under no real obligation to. At least be glad you didn't just get ghosted by your contact at said company because that can happen too.