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ReAxion

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,882
this is a long time coming considering how long biodegradable straws/utensils have been available.
 

Wiped

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
2,096
Hmm, I guess that's a potential solution. I hope they're usable for a decent amount of time.

Well If you don't like the straws there (and paper ones are reinforced and last ages), there's nothing to stop you bringing your own reusable one. Which could be plastic. That has always been the case.
 
I really dig the adult "sippy cup" lids as that's what they usually use whenever I get a nitro cold brew and I'm fine with either the compostable or paper straws.

Starbucks also sell reusable straws whenever they sell their cold drinkware in-store so you can always pick those up to use if need be.
 

R0b1n

Member
Jun 29, 2018
7,787
Y'all should switch to using metal straws. Reusable, easy to carry around and clean. Minimum waste produced.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,846
The alternate view on this subject is presented in this editorial:

People advocating for more environmentally friendly systems need to think about the ways that diverse people access the world. Before you eliminate a consumer system for ecological reasons, remember that many folks rely on convenient technologies, however environmentally unfriendly. That means persuasive messaging must avoid shaming those who need the technology. Because I want us to all stop sucking, but mostly, I want my son to have a drink.

I don't actually agree with their point (just carry plastic straws if your kid can't or won't use other ones) but the general advice that we should be mindful of how certain ecologically bad things can be far more important for small segments of the population is well taken.
 

Xythantiops

Member
Oct 27, 2017
703
I won't be impressed until we get edible cups.
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ShyMel

Moderator
Oct 31, 2017
3,483
A step in the right directions that other corporations need to take as well.
 

TyrantII

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,365
Boston
So, get rid of the PLASTIC straws, but keep the PLASTIC lids... I guess they have to start somewhere.

And cups.

But reading into it, straws pose problems for recycling machines and the vast majority are burned or put in landfills, or end up in the environment. Cups and lids can be recycled.

So the idea is to stop more unrecyclable plastics from ending up as waste.

Good on em.
 

Septimus Prime

EA
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
8,500
The sippy cup lids are nice. The current problem with their paper straws (other than that paper straws are rubbish) is that they come in plastic bags. Hopefully they shift to compostable plastic.
 

SugarNoodles

Member
Nov 3, 2017
8,625
Portland, OR
I've been reading about how this mostly hurts poor disabled people who don't have the capacity to wash and reuse straws (metal can be harmful) because compostable straws break down too quickly during use
 

Septimus Prime

EA
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
8,500
I've been reading about how this mostly hurts poor disabled people who don't have the capacity to wash and reuse straws (metal can be harmful) because compostable straws break down too quickly during use
Compostable paper straws are no good because they break down in minutes, but compostable plastic should be more durable. I've never tried pasta straws before, but I'd imagine they would be like the paper ones in terms of longevity.
 

Xe4

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,295
Yeah, plastic straws suck cause they're really difficult to recycle.
Good on Starbucks changing the type of straw it uses.
 

SpartyCrunch

Xbox
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,497
Seattle, WA
This is already in place in Seattle, and it works perfectly fine.

Plastic straws are such a damned waste. I can't believe restaurants which give you straws for your water by default. Ugh.

Usually you don't need a straw. And when you do, compostable straws work perfectly well and decompose easily.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,859
USA, Sol 3, Universe 1
No no no no no no no no NO!

I've posted my disdain before, but why are we regresssing? What about the handicapped (see some of the other threads if not in the know)? This only helps create more waste as far as I'm concerned because now I gotta buy straws in lower bulk numbers, which means more packaging wasted in the long run.
 

SpartyCrunch

Xbox
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,497
Seattle, WA
No no no no no no no no NO!

I've posted my disdain before, but why are we regresssing? What about the handicapped (see some of the other threads if not in the know)? This only helps create more waste as far as I'm concerned because now I gotta buy straws in lower bulk numbers, which means more packaging wasted in the long run.
The sheer notion that you and some other in this thread are simultaneously:

1) Too lazy to read the article which explicitly addresses the issues you're bringing up

2) So cynical to believe that multinational corporations like Starbucks didn't think about disabled customers

is pretty shocking. But sadly not surprising. Thus is the way of the outrage machine.
 

SugarNoodles

Member
Nov 3, 2017
8,625
Portland, OR
What's stopping people from bringing a reusable plastic straw for very specific needs? Nothing

There is no point damaging the environment when it's so damn avoidable
It's literally in the article I linked you:

And, if you have trouble drinking, you are quite likely to have trouble washing and carrying a reusable straw.

There are other articles out there too. Educate yourself instead of doubling down on your ignorance.