Was there any news when the second part of the operation gonna start?
What still baffles my mind is how the divers were able to find them in the first place. Imagine diving down into a cave where the visibility conditions were apparently close to zero and pushing forward not knowing what's ahead of you, or if you'll be able to get back. How on earth do you just head forward with like zero knowledge of what you're gonna find. Obviously they would have all their time calculated as to how far they could get before having to return but it all just sounds so damn scary to do. Ofc a lot of these people are trained professionals but they're all heroes. Every single one of them.
And just thinking about the moment they popped up out of the water where they all were. Probably initially was incredibly scary for them followed quickly by a huge amount of relief. What an ordeal they've been through. I can't remember the last time I was so glued to a story.
Sorry, just had to share some stuff I'd been thinking about the last couple days.
The cave itself was fairly well known. They had identified the logical refuge point early on, but rising water levels meant that they retreated further in.What still baffles my mind is how the divers were able to find them in the first place. Imagine diving down into a cave where the visibility conditions were apparently close to zero and pushing forward not knowing what's ahead of you, or if you'll be able to get back. How on earth do you just head forward with like zero knowledge of what you're gonna find. Obviously they would have all their time calculated as to how far they could get before having to return but it all just sounds so damn scary to do. Ofc a lot of these people are trained professionals but they're all heroes. Every single one of them.
And just thinking about the moment they popped up out of the water where they all were. Probably initially was incredibly scary for them followed quickly by a huge amount of relief. What an ordeal they've been through. I can't remember the last time I was so glued to a story.
Sorry, just had to share some stuff I'd been thinking about the last couple days.
Yeah. There is no exit obviously the way they went so I guess it was just a matter of time. I've watched quite a few cave diving videos since this all started and I have a new appreciation for what these guys have done. I thought I was squeamish watching people up on high buildings, this takes the anxiety to a whole other level.I think they found traces of them in the cave. The shoes, footprints and so on, that's why they kept searching them deeper and deeper into the cave.
Very well said, completely agree with all of it.The cave itself was fairly well known. They had identified the logical refuge point early on, but rising water levels meant that they retreated further in.
Finding them in time was the actual surprising bit.
The whole operation so far has been nothing short of impressive. From the heroism of the rescue divers, to the countless people helping with logistics, providing halal food for Muslim rescue workers, etc. The show of community and empathy is inspiring.
What still baffles my mind is how the divers were able to find them in the first place. Imagine diving down into a cave where the visibility conditions were apparently close to zero and pushing forward not knowing what's ahead of you, or if you'll be able to get back. How on earth do you just head forward with like zero knowledge of what you're gonna find. Obviously they would have all their time calculated as to how far they could get before having to return but it all just sounds so damn scary to do. Ofc a lot of these people are trained professionals but they're all heroes. Every single one of them.
And just thinking about the moment they popped up out of the water where they all were. Probably initially was incredibly scary for them followed quickly by a huge amount of relief. What an ordeal they've been through. I can't remember the last time I was so glued to a story.
Sorry, just had to share some stuff I'd been thinking about the last couple days.
No matter the dimensions a rigid pod isn't going to be able to flex itself around tight spaces.People on an internet gaming forum thousands of miles away and thousands of hours of experience/training/intelligence away from any situation remotely similar to this are going to second guess the dimensions of a possible rescue pod. Is it not too much to ask that we assume they know the fucking dimensions they are dealing with?
SMFH.
The Death of Expertise indeed.
Just repeating this as a last reminder. This is not an Elon Musk thread.Please move on from this Elon Musk derail. Neither Musk nor his plans are part of the ongoing rescue operations and these arguments about him invariably devolve into petty fights.
What still baffles my mind is how the divers were able to find them in the first place. Imagine diving down into a cave where the visibility conditions were apparently close to zero and pushing forward not knowing what's ahead of you, or if you'll be able to get back. How on earth do you just head forward with like zero knowledge of what you're gonna find. Obviously they would have all their time calculated as to how far they could get before having to return but it all just sounds so damn scary to do. Ofc a lot of these people are trained professionals but they're all heroes. Every single one of them.
And just thinking about the moment they popped up out of the water where they all were. Probably initially was incredibly scary for them followed quickly by a huge amount of relief. What an ordeal they've been through. I can't remember the last time I was so glued to a story.
Sorry, just had to share some stuff I'd been thinking about the last couple days.
Just repeating this as a last reminder. This is not an Elon Musk thread.
NINE HOURS?!?!?!?! I thought they went in the cave by accident and didn't go too far. How are they 9 hours deep?!
It was still people need to respect the admins and mod rules, let's stay on topic
Jonneh was asked to post it, he didn't reply for a few minutes, so I posted it. Then he came back and I didn't want him to have bothered for nothing.No i meant it was literally a post by Cerium and then it changed and was a post by a mod. Same text. Same place, Suddenly a different person.
Unless im going insane.
Jonneh was asked to post it, he didn't reply for a few minutes, so I posted it. Then he came back and I didn't want him to have bothered for nothing.
At any rate, please stay on topic.
Okay sorry. It's 4 am and I thought I was going mad.
Anyway I thought they were resuming operations?
They have. The same divers that went in originally have gone back in. They're doing a briefing now apparently so hopefully more specifics soon.Okay sorry. It's 4 am and I thought I was going mad.
Anyway I thought they were resuming operations?
So a little over 4 hours ago they went back in.Divers went in to extract more boys from the cave on Monday at 11am (5am BST), official reports have confirmed.
"The factors are as good as yesterday ... The rescue team is the same team with a few replacements," Narongsak Osatanakorn, the head of the joint command centre coordinating the operation said.
He added: "The water level is not worrisome ... Yesterday's rain did not affect water levels inside the cave."
So apparently someone was flying a drone over the location yesterday. Geez people, just let them do what they need to without distractions...
And this is good to see. They reportedly were worried about refeeding syndrome so prob having to take it really slow right now.
Jonneh was asked to post it, he didn't reply for a few minutes, so I posted it. Then he came back and I didn't want him to have bothered for nothing.
At any rate, please stay on topic.
Okay sorry. It's 4 am and I thought I was going mad.
Anyway I thought they were resuming operations?
They have. The same divers that went in originally have gone back in. They're doing a briefing now apparently so hopefully more specifics soon.
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That sounds very promising. Should be another smooth operation today unless something unexpected happens.
Could they bring plants to help with the oxygen levels inside the cave
Officials just said that the stronger and healthier boys will be coming out first and are expected to come out in another 4 to 5 hours.
I know there's an obvious answer to this, at least I imagine there is, but I can't think of what it would be: Why do you bring out the healthy and strong ones first? Wouldn't you want to get those most in need of care out and to the hospital?
They did also say 'the most ready' so maybe it's more about that.
Maybe they use the time to train those that don't feel ready. Basically use every minute to prepare them until they feel comfortable (as well as can be expected)Officials just said that the stronger and healthier boys will be coming out first and are expected to come out in another 4 to 5 hours.
I know there's an obvious answer to this, at least I imagine there is, but I can't think of what it would be: Why do you bring out the healthy and strong ones first? Wouldn't you want to get those most in need of care out and to the hospital?
They did also say 'the most ready' so maybe it's more about that.
Probably they want the weaker kids to get as much time as possible to get nutrition etc, and hopefully become a bit stronger, before it's their turn. They also said that they hope that hearing their friends made it out safely will be a morale boost.
Thanks, I knew there would be a good reason. That makes complete sense and obviously it's completely understandable for some of them to have apprehension.Maybe they use the time to train those that don't feel ready. Basically use every minute to prepare them until they feel comfortable (as well as can be expected)
Maybe they use the time to train those that don't feel ready. Basically use every minute to prepare them until they feel comfortable (as well as can be expected)
Officials just said that the stronger and healthier boys will be coming out first and are expected to come out in another 4 to 5 hours.
I know there's an obvious answer to this, at least I imagine there is, but I can't think of what it would be: Why do you bring out the healthy and strong ones first? Wouldn't you want to get those most in need of care out and to the hospital?
They did also say 'the most ready' so maybe it's more about that.
I'd be scared shitless. These boys are brave as all hell.Thanks, I knew there would be a good reason. That makes complete sense and obviously it's completely understandable for some of them to have apprehension.
The first video we saw of them, they all looked in very good spirits. Incredibly brave of them to go through this like they have. After 9 days in a completely black cave (before they were found) I'd be an absolute mess.
Also, the four who came out yesterday were the weakest, so presumably those remaining are all in a relatively decent state.
Diver Ben Reymenants thinks the coach'll be saved last and the weakest kids will be saved first today, he said this morning on Belgian radio (link if you speak Dutch). They hope to get 4 to 6 more out today.
A combo of the weaker kids having more time to recover and then letting the volunteers get more proficient in the operation as they get more experience with the dives. Remember that something like this has never been tried before.Officials just said that the stronger and healthier boys will be coming out first and are expected to come out in another 4 to 5 hours.
I know there's an obvious answer to this, at least I imagine there is, but I can't think of what it would be: Why do you bring out the healthy and strong ones first? Wouldn't you want to get those most in need of care out and to the hospital?
They did also say 'the most ready' so maybe it's more about that.
And other reports say the coach was already brought out because he was very weak due to having given the kids most of the food and water they had. Lots of confusion.
The cartoon above, by the artist Sisidea, is being widely shared on Thai social media. It portrays each of the groups taking part in this operation using animals.
According to the illustrator, the leader of the operation, TK, is the elephant – the elephant being the symbol of Chiang Rai province. He is a white elephant too – signifying the rareness of his leadership abilities, the cartoonist says.
The wild boars are obviously the boys – that's the name of their football team – while the white horses represent the volunteers. The seals are the Thai navy Seals who are coordinating this operation while the frogs represent the Thai and international divers.
The lions are the English divers, the kangaroos, the Australians. The Panda is the Chinese team, the cranes, the Japanese team and the moose are the Swedes. The tigers are the Burmese team and the brown elephants are the Laos specialists. The dogs represent the police and the Iron Man is Elon Musk.
And the birds – the ones flying the opposite direction to everyone else? They would be the media, and the Thai bloggers who have been criticising the operation. Ouch.
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Reuters is reporting that fifth person has been rescued.
Rescue workers in Thailand were seen carrying a person on a stretcher away from a cave complex and into a waiting ambulance on Monday, a Reuters witness said.
The first four boys, from the group of 13, including the coach, were rescued on Sunday.
CNN is reporting that a fifth boy has been seen being rescued from the cave. It cited a member of the rescue team who said a boy was seen on a stretcher at 4.27pm local time emerging from the entrance. This has not been confirmed.