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What rating do you think this game will get?

  • 90+

    Votes: 98 12.2%
  • 80+

    Votes: 475 59.2%
  • 70+

    Votes: 99 12.3%
  • 60+

    Votes: 13 1.6%
  • "Garbage like Xenoblade 2"

    Votes: 117 14.6%

  • Total voters
    802
  • Poll closed .

Truant

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,760
Someone finished the game and posted some thoughts on another form. It was in French, so here are the takeaways, and bear in mind I have no idea how accurate it is, but sounds likely:

There's no real overarching plot. It's exactly as advertised: 8 individual stories
-However the individual stories are good and interesting
-During banters characters will in fact reference other story beats for party members like they were there
-At least four optional superbosses
-Optional dungeons
-32+ bosses
-Combat, visuals, OST are at the top tier of JRPGs
-Some people will inevitably be disappointed at the lack of overall epic plot
-The way the stories are presented will take some getting used to by people, no doubt
-There's grind required, but the combat is so good you (probably) won't mind
-Reputation system doesn't have much impact on progression
-Between chapters, sidequests, grinding, exploration, optional bosses/dungeons there's easily over 100 hours of content
-There's no airship or vehicles
-Dont go in expecting a huge, sweeping epic story like FFVI; you won't get it. If you're expecting that you'll be disappointed. But it's a good JRPG.

Again, no idea how accurate anything here is.

Is this the first traditional JRPG without any elemental crystals in it? If so, this is a small revolution.
 

Totakeke

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,673
32 hours of story scenarios taken together isn't short by any stretch in any game. The actual issue here is again that having no central plot is quite a departure from what most people expect, and that's not the fault of the marketing either.
 

sanstesy

Banned
Nov 16, 2017
2,471
That reads like a random user doing a made up review after reading this thread. You couldn't write a more apt while barebones review than that.
 

Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,810
I honestly don't get why Jason should he held to a higher standard of "decency" when discussing games in a casual context like a public forum. He's just using strong words to refer to a game he heavily dislikes, I don't see the issue. If he was to call a game garbage in a review without elaborating on it tho, yeah, that'd be a bad look.

If anything his dislike for XC2 makes me trust his judgment more tho, so cool beans lol.
Chibi Primrose



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Nice! I haven't tried all characters yet (will get on that today), but I'm really tempted to start with her, I'm enjoying her premise a lot.
I really appreciate that all of the female designs aren't pandering garbage.
It's great, especially when even a dancer character whose story has lot of sexual undertones looks more dignified than a lot of female characters in modern JRPGs. Plus the Yoshida-like style is gorgeous.
 

Totakeke

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,673
That reads like a random user doing a made up review after reading this thread. You couldn't write a more apt review in that case.

The number of
bosses and optional superbosses, the statement about the reputation system, that there's no vehicles and airships new information.
Yeah sure they can be fake, but it's not just purely existing information.
 
Oct 25, 2017
17,537
It's great, especially when even a dancer character whose story has lot of sexual undertones looks more dignified than a lot of female characters in modern JRPGs. Plus the Yoshida-like style is gorgeous.

It also helps that she looks like an actual human being instead of two watermelons nailed to a ironing board in a spandex outfit with high heels

Primrose should be the standard.
 

sanstesy

Banned
Nov 16, 2017
2,471
The number of
bosses and optional superbosses, the statement about the reputation system, that there's no vehicles and airships new information.
Yeah sure they can be fake, but it's not just purely existing information.

These boss information bits are really not hard to guess (he essentially counts one boss per each characters chapter and put a + to it) by current information and especially that he points out there are no vehicles and airships makes me wary. Nobody ever expected that.

It just sounds like a made-up damage control review with him repeating 5 times that there is no overaching epic plot. But who knows?
 

MagitekDad

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Oct 25, 2017
574
These boss information bits are really not hard to guess (he essentially counts one boss per each characters chapter and put a + to it) by current information and especially that he points out there are no vehicles and airships makes me wary. Nobody ever expected that.

It just sounds like a made-up damage control review with him repeating 5 times that there is no overaching epic plot. But who knows?

Ok.
 

Totakeke

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,673
Eh, I've been in other review threads and they didn't have a problem with calling something fake, not commenting on it makes me believe it's real anyways.

Review threads or preview threads?

Also that's not how things work, and that's why you're not supposed to deny or confirm anything until you're allowed to.
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,053
I wonder when the "final boss theme" on YouTube plays. I had assumed that it was whenever the you completed any one of the main plots, like Legend of Mana.
 

ShinobiBk

One Winged Slayer
Member
Dec 28, 2017
10,121
Ok, I see we've gone into spoiler territory already.

Not going into any Octopath threads until I have finished the game
 

SuperSah

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
4,079
Personally, I like the eight separate stories. Every JRPG ever is a "team against enemy" type game, k why can't someone innovate?

It will be awesome, I can't wait.
 
Oct 25, 2017
9,053
So there's a song for each story boss and then a song with multiple phases called "Final Battle"...
This makes me think about a final boss for all the characters (The God from Ophilia's story).

People assumed "CS Battle" stood for Character Story, and then the operatic boss music was the "true" final boss. There's a handful of other boss themes as well, but not enough to have a different one for each character arc.

Is discussing the presence or absence of a final boss considered a spoiler? That has been like 2/3rds of the derails in the thread.
 
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Boiled Goose

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Nov 2, 2017
9,999
Yes I can watch endings later however that isn't the ending I got. You seriously think after playing the whole Witcher trilogy to answer some question the wrong way and get an awful ending is no big deal? It sours the whole journey knowing where my charecters ended up because I answered a question I didn't know would matter down the line.

That would be like paying money to go to the theater and you having a 1/4 chance to see the good ending. Nobody would want to do that. Or reading a book just to have the final page torn out and a new page inserted.

The developers clearly have an idea of what the intended ending should be and I want my journey to finish how they intended. Watching a YouTube video isn't the same as seeing it play out naturally on screen.

I don't get your examples because you can still watch the good ending for games on the same tv monitor you play the game.
 

Boiled Goose

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
9,999
It's more about having previous information about critical things. Lots of JRPG have "points of no return" for side quests , and most of them do a poor job explaining this to the user.
I don't like spoilers, but knowing that a certain game has certain decisions that can prevent me of playing some sections, or important decisions that can ruin my run because the game does a poor job explaining their importance can save me a few hours.
It's not about role playing or optimizing, is more about trying to have the best possible experience, and that's important when playing a long game that I won't be replaying.

Points of no return I get. There you are actually locked away from doing certain things.
 

Power Shot

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Oct 27, 2017
674
Well, despite the fact that I was hoping for greater cohesion between the narratives, I'm pretty sure I'm on board here. I've played enough characters to get the feeling like the game is worth the experience, and I deeply appreciate Nintendo/Square Enix giving me the opportunity to try it via both demos. Really looking forward to seeing where Primrose goes.
 

MrConbon210

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Oct 31, 2017
7,649
I don't get your examples because you can still watch the good ending for games on the same tv monitor you play the game.

It's the experience of playing. Those charecters on the YouTube video aren't my charecters I spent the game playing. I don't know what that Geralt did, I don't know if he was the hardass or the Geralt who gave money to the needy. I don't have a connection to that charecter.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'm confused by the eShop's wording...I was able to play the US eShop's demos in Japanese, however the eShop didn't list Japanese as a supported language for the (whole) game. Can anyone confirm if the US version will allow me to play in JP?
 

Zedelima

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Oct 25, 2017
7,718
Hey people! Despite playing the demo, and reading some impressions, i still didn't get what the game is about.

Is one major story and i can play 8 versions of it?
Or is 8 differents storys that i play with character?
 

Saint-14

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
14,477
Hey people! Despite playing the demo, and reading some impressions, i still didn't get what the game is about.

Is one major story and i can play 8 versions of it?
Or is 8 differents storys that i play with character?
Each character have a different story so 8 different stories, you can recruit all the characters and use any combination you want.
 

DecoReturns

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Oct 27, 2017
22,003
Actually. Now that I think about it. Jason kinda did call out a fake review one time, i believe before the embargo was over.

Remember FFXV? That was a wild thread
 

Saint-14

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
14,477
Actually. Now that I think about it. Jason kinda did call out a fake review one time, i believe before the embargo was over.

Remember FFXV? That was a wild thread
Yep, that's what I was talking about, I don't think saying if something is fake breaks the embargo, but it's fine if you think differently or don't want to risk it.
 

Exentryk

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,236
Good to hear that there are some super bosses. Will be fun coming up with strats to take them down.
 

Disclaimer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,532
It is but you will eventually have to get them since battles will get harder, I also don't think you can finish the game without getting all the characters and finishing their stories.

Developers have said it's technically possible to solo the game, though given how challenging combat becomes and the necessity of targeting weaknesses, that seems highly impractical.
 

jschreier

Press Sneak Fuck
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Oct 25, 2017
1,095
I don't know if that review is fake or not. I'm still wrapping up Chapter 3s, too low level for Chapter 4s.
 

Zedelima

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,718
Developers have said it's technically possible to solo the game, though given how challenging combat becomes and the necessity of targeting weaknesses, that seems highly impractical.
Speaking of combat, will be magicians in the game? Like summoners.
(Im totally blacked out with the game, but now im curious)
 

Disclaimer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,532
I'm not sure what they meant by that since you can't remove the character you start with.

It means that technically you could finish the game (i.e., their personal story) with only the character you begin with.

Speaking of combat, will be magicians in the game? Like summoners.
(Im totally blacked out with the game, but now im curious)

There are multiple magic-using jobs, yes, and Primrose and Ophilia have the ability to summon NPCs into combat, while H'aanit can summon monsters she's tamed.