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What’s up with kids and MAGA hats?

Dekim

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Khanimus said:
Good to know an open threat of the marginalization of minorities can be passed off as counter-culture. This won't at all negatively affect the kids these fuckers go to school with.
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Buzzman said:
I don't think most people are trying to use it as a defense. It's just what it is, sadly. We're seeing the rise of a new generation of Nazis, we're now sufficiently far removed from the horrors of WW2, and people have a short memory.
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Yeah.I Am not defending this. I am just saying where things stand right now. Kids today hangout at /pol/ and The_Donald where they pick up most of this stuff and reinforce their shitty behavior. They go to Youtube where they watch Milo, Sargon, Jordan Peterson, David Rubin and people like that. They find sticking it to SJWs to be funny. They have no sense of the damage they are causing to minorities. Or they don't care.

This is the next generation of conservative America being born right in front of us.
 
rjinaz

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Dekim said:
Yeah.I Am not defending this. I am just saying where things stand right now. Kids today hangout at /pol/ and The_Donald where they pick up most of this stuff and reinforce their shitty behavior. They go to Youtube where they watch Milo, Sargon, Jordan Peterson, David Rubin and people like that. They find sticking it to SJWs to be funny. They have no sense of the damage they are causing to minorities. Or they don't care.

This is the next generation of conservative America being born right in front of us.
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I mean this is pretty much it. "fuck liberal feelings, I just want to play games and say the N word" and they love it.
 
SugarNoodles

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Based0ne said:
I'm pretty sure this is the right way of thinking about it all sadly...
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It reminds me of this time when my family was watching I am Sam, and there's that kid at the birthday party who doesnt like Sam and says "dont touch me you retard" to him, and I remember asking my mom "why are some kids assholes?" and she goes "because their parents are assholes"

And I was like "really?" and she says "sure, think about the kids you know that are assholes" and I was like "well what about Steve?" and she didnt say anything.

The day I realized Steve's dad was an asshole.
 

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Shy said:
So he didn't know what he was doing, when was being a racist piece of shit his entire life
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You mean Trump? He doesn't self-identify as a racist (keep in mind yours and his definition of such are likely very different), and like many would think his actions are reasonable and not harmful to "good" people (see immigration strategy). That's my point, to understand the purpose of one's own actions and to understand the actual outcomes are two different things.
 
Shy

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Somnid said:
You mean Trump? He doesn't self-identify as a racist (keep in mind yours and his definition of such are likely very different), and like many would think his actions are reasonable and not harmful to "good" people (see immigration strategy). That's my point, to understand the purpose of one's own actions and to understand the actual outcomes are two different things.
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I understand.

Though i was referring to him ever since he was young and in real estate when he would flat out deny black people from moving into his places. Actions like that.
 
Polaroid_64

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Somnid said:
You mean Trump? He doesn't self-identify as a racist (keep in mind yours and his definition of such are likely very different), and like many would think his actions are reasonable and not harmful to "good" people (see immigration strategy). That's my point, to understand the purpose of one's own actions and to understand the actual outcomes are two different things.
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It's simple. Judge people by their actions and in his case, hate speech.

Not whatever word salad you threw up on the screen.
 
DigitalOp

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Somnid said:
You mean Trump? He doesn't self-identify as a racist (keep in mind yours and his definition of such are likely very different), and like many would think his actions are reasonable and not harmful to "good" people (see immigration strategy). That's my point, to understand the purpose of one's own actions and to understand the actual outcomes are two different things.
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In this case..

Spoken Words almost mean nothing. Actions mean everything.

The only words that matter are definitions.

Trump's words : "I am the least racist person out of everyone" lol (I'd like to think he'd say I'm not racist but thinking is hard)

Trump's actions :
- Barred black familes from his properties
- Called for the death of innocent black teens after proven evidence
- Questioned a sitting presidents citizenship (he just so happened to be black)
- Debased Mexicans
- Debased Muslims
- Thinks Black Americans are living in hell (They are now)
- Thinks African immigrants come from shithole countries
- Killed DACA
- Killed Hatian Immigrant program
- Conflates legal immigration with MS13
- Thinks of Immigration as a whole as an Infestation
- Baby Jails
-Thinks White Supremacists are fine people

His words don't mean shit. His actions talk alot tho.

His definition of Racism means fuck all.
 
Z-Beat

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Little kids wearing the hats probably got influence from their parents. Teens wearing the hats are probably just assholes because teens can be selfish and actively destroy each other to reach the top of the ladder, or just want to do the opposite of what everyone else is doing.
 
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Shy

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DigitalOp said:
In this case..

Spoken Words almost mean nothing. Actions mean everything.

The only words that matter are definitions.

Trump's words : "I am the least racist person out of everyone" lol (I'd like to think he'd say I'm not racist but thinking is hard)

Trump's actions :
- Barred black familes from his properties
- Called for the death of innocent black teens after proven evidence
- Questioned a sitting presidents citizenship (he just so happened to be black)
- Debased Mexicans
- Debased Muslims
- Thinks Black Americans are living in hell (They are now)
- Thinks African immigrants come from shithole countries
- Killed DACA
- Killed Hatian Immigrant program
- Conflates legal immigration with MS13
- Thinks of Immigration as a whole as an Infestation
- Baby Jails
-Thinks White Supremacists are fine people

His words don't mean shit. His actions talk alot tho.

His definition of Racism means fuck all.
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I wish could be as articulate as you Digi. Bravo.
 
Kayo Police

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Kids these days love memes, it actually shocked me when my little nephew knew more obscure memes than I did.
 
jwhit28

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I'll never understand how 4chan kids grew into government apologist of either party.
 
kamineko

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These wild punk rawk kids are into that deep underground shit like corporate welfare and tax cuts for millionaires

There's no line these provocateurs won't cross they are the youth of today and boldly forging their own new path.

Look out old folks these crazy kids are ready to set the world on fire with fresh new ideas unlike anything America has ever seen

Blaze on rebel kids

/s
 
SpaceRipperStingyEyes

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Conservatism is the new counter culture. A lot of young people would rather be called a racist than an SJW finger waving cringer. My senior year ended spring 2016 and sooooo many of my fellow students would go to Trump rallies and say they were gonna vote for him because it would be funny and generally saw him as a Homer-esque lovable dope. Not just white guys either but pretty much everyone except black women and even a few of them were in that circle. My class fell into the bracket of either youngest millenial/oldest gen z and our parents, older millenials and Gen X, are widely liberal as fuck. So supporting Trump was a way to rebel against authority for many.
 
MrRob

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new counter culture that privileged white males can be a part of...and it sucks.
 
Shark

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Scariest thing about the alt-right political and social 'Ideology' permeating society is how much young people have latched on to it.
 
gamerman

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Looks like America is raising a whole new generation of racists. The MAGA hat is this generation's Ku Klux Klan hood. Given how well these hats are selling, I think most of the country secretly owns one of these hats. They probably only wear it when they are in the safety of their kind.
 
Akira86

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i don't remember seeing any kids wearing obama hats

but the funny thing about the maga hat is that it's a necessity for anyone who wants to identify with the trump movement. and they have to pay Trump to get one.

that's genius, but if only the man's genius wasn't in being an unscrupulous shit.
 

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This thread is filled with the dumbest excuses for blatant racism.

It's not ~counterculture~. They are *agreeing* with culture, specifically their president and the party in power. The hat is literally worn as the opposite of counterculture, it's worn as "I can be a shit to people I view as subhuman, and nobody can do a thing about it."

And the bullshit one person is trying about "all parents being liberals" is even sillier. Over 60% of white dudes votes for Trump. That's not a counterculture in any way.

Somnid said:
You mean Trump? He doesn't self-identify as a racist (keep in mind yours and his definition of such are likely very different), and like many would think his actions are reasonable and not harmful to "good" people (see immigration strategy).
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So, exactly like Germans in Nazi germany. Like, exactly alike.

For some reason, people are desperate to think that Trump racists are just hapless buffoons that accidentally do racism, oops, while real racists in the pasts always said "I am racist, mwahahaha" in the mirror three times every day. But that's not how it works.

Real racists were *exactly* like Trumpites. They always think of themselves as the good people whose actions are justified. And their brainwashed youth, oddly, acted exactly the same as the kids this thread is about do. There's literally no difference.

And yet, people are desperate to pretend there is one, for some reason.
 
Skelepuzzle

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Machachan said:
This thread is filled with the dumbest excuses for blatant racism.

It's not ~counterculture~. They are *agreeing* with culture, specifically their president and the party in power. The hat is literally worn as the opposite of counterculture, it's worn as "I can be a shit to people I view as subhuman, and nobody can do a thing about it."

And the bullshit one person is trying about "all parents being liberals" is even sillier. Over 60% of white dudes votes for Trump. That's not a counterculture in any way.



So, exactly like Germans in Nazi germany. Like, exactly alike.

For some reason, people are desperate to think that Trump racists are just hapless buffoons that accidentally do racism, oops, while real racists in the pasts always said "I am racist, mwahahaha" in the mirror three times every day. But that's not how it works.

Real racists were *exactly* like Trumpites. They always think of themselves as the good people whose actions are justified. And their brainwashed youth, oddly, acted exactly the same as the kids this thread is about do. There's literally no difference.

And yet, people are desperate to pretend there is one, for some reason.
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It always comes back to the same dumbass talking point, that 10s of millions of Americans can't be racist. Yeah, they are, and yeah, they have been.

There's no "true" counter culture bullshit when you're adopting a platform that has long existed.
 
BossAttack

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DigitalOp said:
You gotta think about it yo.

The current counter culture is that it's cool to be racists/edgelord. YouTube pumps the fuck out of shitty videos to these kids. There fav tubers are preaching a bunch of garbage to them. Twitch boys and Incels are able to connect with them as well. If they are part of Republican familes then they already are indoctrinated wholesale.

The culture war was lost soon as Clown took office. Now his decency and bigotry is protected behind "support or respect" for the Presidency.

It's a load of bullshit but that's how their selling it.

Kanye didn't help because his dumbass got used as a tool to fight against racism claims.

It's cool to be racist, it's cool to be a Nazi.

When we were younger, the wave was Emo/Goth

Edit: Major factor here, this is primarily for young white boys. Maybe a few white passing Latinos. But def mainly young white boys.
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You just made me very sad. I just thought about all the MRA/Anti-SJW/Racist/Jordan Peterson videos that YouTube is constantly trying to push on me after watching anything gaming or geek related. And, realized how easy it is to indoctrinate those kids who don't know any better and likely feel completely insecure at their age.
 
Piston

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Just since you were in DC... they sell those hats on the side of the road near the National Mall/monuments, when school groups go through I'm sure it's a big peer pressure type thing along with availability and a general lack of understanding.
 
zoukka

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Eh people need to get out more. Kids wear the most stupid and edgy shit just to get looks. And they are kids, lost of them have hard time understanding the nuamces of politic climate. Plenty of adults who don't either.
 
Skelepuzzle

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zoukka said:
Eh people need to get out more. Kids wear the most stupid and edgy shit just to get looks. And they are kids, lost of them have hard time understanding the nuamces of politic climate. Plenty of adults who don't either.
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You're saying this in response to kids wearing a hate symbol, sold by known racist who employs at least one blatant white supremacist, perusing a Holocaust museum.

"Getting out more" is how the poster noticed it. Does getting out more make you numb as to what this implies? Because in this case it made OP consider the implications.
 
Spikematic

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Posted about this in another thread as well. I was in DC last month and was wandering around the national mall doing touristy stuff. Saw LOADS of kids and teenagers wearing the red hats and tshirts. It was mostly random kids here and there initially but I'd run into few fairly large groups as well. The largest one was when I went into the national museum of american history. I swear there were at least 50 kids walking around on a tour or something and none of them looked a day over 12. It was creepy as fuck and put me off enough to exit the museum quickly.
 
cosmicblizzard

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Machachan said:
This thread is filled with the dumbest excuses for blatant racism.

It's not ~counterculture~. They are *agreeing* with culture, specifically their president and the party in power. The hat is literally worn as the opposite of counterculture, it's worn as "I can be a shit to people I view as subhuman, and nobody can do a thing about it."

And the bullshit one person is trying about "all parents being liberals" is even sillier. Over 60% of white dudes votes for Trump. That's not a counterculture in any way.
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It's not counterculture in reality, but it is in their perception. They see a sort of "PC gone mad" thing going on with popular media like Hollywood, even if that's largely performative. Or they see their favorite Youtube and Twitch stars getting in trouble for something because they still think it's the wild west era of the internet because that's exactly what those personalities have hammered into their heads. Suddenly they're rebels, and rebels are cool! They're not gonna let the system tell them what to do because they answer to no one but themselves.

But because they're dumb kids, they don't realize the things they're supporting are literally part of the system. It's just an incredibly unpopular system, which just makes them gravitate toward it more.
 
Skelepuzzle

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cosmicblizzard said:
It's not counterculture in reality, but it is in their perception. They see a sort of "PC gone mad" thing going on with popular media like Hollywood, even if that's largely performative. Or they see their favorite Youtube and Twitch stars getting in trouble for something because they still think it's the wild west era of the internet because that's exactly what those personalities have hammered into their heads. Suddenly they're rebels, and rebels are cool! They're not gonna let the system tell them what to do because they answer to no one but themselves.

But because they're dumb kids, they don't realize the things they're supporting are literally part of the system. It's just an incredibly unpopular system, which just makes them gravitate toward it more.
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Which still makes them racist in practice.
 
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