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MarioW

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Nov 5, 2017
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At the very end of the movie, is Charlie literaly inside of her brothers body? I got the feeling that Charlie isn't particularly evil, but Paimon is. Is Paimon a passive host in Charlie, or does Paimom=Charlie.

As I read and understand it, Charlie's spirit/soul was primed over time by the grandmother to receive Paimon. Whether it was a last minute change of plan after her death or always the plan to get her spirit into a male body (which they said was Paimon's preference) is unclear. But ultimately, Charlie's spirit went into her brothers body when he fell, and they finished the ritual so that the brothers body and Charlie's spirit became host to Paimon's will.
 

gfxtwin

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Is there an analysis of this movie out there that goes into how this film might work as both supernatural horror and realistic horror? After watching it again, to me it really does feel like it can be viewed as an exorcism movie and also a movie about a family with severe mental illness being manipulated and picked off by the cultists (and the supernatural elements were dreamt or hallucinated). Not sure how well this holds up to scrutiny though.
 

Zampano

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Dec 3, 2017
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This is a really excellent film. The closest comparison for me was Kill List, which is a massively underrated, really, really nasty British horror/thriller/family drama by Ben Wheatley.
 

Fitzgerald

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Feb 23, 2018
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This movie is amazing and a modern classic.

I love the occult, and the imagery in this movie is appropriately absurd - in a good way. This was most apparent in the last 20 minutes or so. I thought it was extremely eerie when Peter jumped out of the window when confronted by naked coven members. Or when the headless corpse of Annie floats into the treehouse. Or the golden statue of King Paimon in the treehouse with Charlie's head perched on top of it. The whole thing seems absurd, almost amateurish, but in a way befitting of mythology written by 16th century occultists who describe demons as kings riding camels. I mean, it should be anachronistic, weird and outlandish, but the film somehow manages to make it seem grounded as well. I think it does a great job of translating century old horror to the big screen.

This is probably the thing that alienates a large part of the audience as well. People are used to seeing jump scares with dead nuns or ghosts. There were people laughing in the audience at these parts (and reading the thread the last third of the movie is not received as well as the rest) - however, I absolutely think the ending makes this movie and I'm glad they did not go with "it was all in her head".
 
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Jack Remington

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Oct 25, 2017
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I finally saw this. It was pretty good. Seeing all the pieces come together at the end was interesting. Really not what I expected either. I didn't know anything about the film coming in, and based on the name Hereditary, I thought whatever the evil/horror was, it was going to be more inside of them, something they couldn't escape. Instead it gets brought to them by bad decisions by the mother. You do get a nice twist on the "hereditary" theme when Peter is crowned king at the end.

The Charlie decapitation scene is going to stick with me, and the last half hour was pretty intense.

It doesn't come close to The Witch though, IMO, despite some posters in this thread saying it's better.
 

Jhey Cyphre

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm very late to checking this out. I meant to do it a lot sooner, but things kept getting in the way. Had to drive quiet a bit out there to catch it but it was so very worth it. This is without a doubt one of the best movies I have seen in a while and I can't even think of another horror movie that has made me feel this uncomfortable.
 

BrokenBox

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Oct 26, 2017
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Just caught this tonight. Really enjoyed it minus the feeling that the King was thrown in past the middle section of the movie to explain the ending. Although Peter being Charlie once he jumps makes more sense given the Gma's/Queen's wishes for a male child.

Also, it was completely implied the Gma breastfed Charlie, right? Seems obvious, but I also attributed Charlie's demeanor to this.
 
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ParanoidRED

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Nov 2, 2017
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Holy fuck what a fantastic movie, shot beautifully and the last 30 minutes creeped the fuck out of me

The VVitch is still undefeated tho!
 

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This movie was like The Witch with a modern setting. Jesus Christ at the imagery. Very good and spooky.

What was with the tongue clicks though?
 

snausages

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I just saw this, found it really scary. I was sort of expecting some Lynch at first cause of the audio design and the miniatures and the subterranean dive into the earth a la Blue Velvet but it became more conventional later.

But it's got a lot of really raw and real-feeling psychological horror and a very convincing performance by Toni Colette and the actor who played the son.

There's great use of surround sound with that tongue clicking stuff as well. Once or twice I thought I heard someone in the audience repeat it and wasn't sure if it was in the film or not, and vice versa waiting to see if the characters reacted to sounds I wasn't sure were real or not.

I got to say though some of the takes ITT trying to pass off like you have an informed opinion on a movie you saw barely any of and then defending your criticism against 'anti-intellectualism' is really dumb. I can see where this film divides people but at least some of the more lukewarm reviews I've heard (like from Kermode) actually watched the film.
 

snausages

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That stuff was confusing cause it didn't seem adequately signposted to me that Charlie 'was' Paimon.

Like from what I gathered it was that Peter basically was Charlie at that point on, the clucking is a Charlie thing.

But then Charlie and Paimon are always one and the same basically so it's a bit weird. Read somewhere that the head-cutting off stuff is like releasing the demon out.
 

obin_gam

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Oct 25, 2017
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Saw it yesterday with my so and we were completely stunned by how brilliant this was!
Like a (spiritual (or real...for that matter)) sequel to The VVitch :D
On the walk home we started to talk about Painmon and if he is talked about in the book I have at home...
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Reading about him makes the cult in the movie so much more fun as well, finding connections to stuff that happens
 

Arta

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Oct 27, 2017
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Movie's out on digital, and its still extremely effective, save for the last 2 minutes with the voiceover and the Burger King crown.

What a night it was watching this and Upgrade together.
 

Einchy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Watched it last night, loved it. It was very effective and causing me to feel genuine dread, which I honestly don't feel often from media. Charlie's death was extremely shocking and made my stomach sink when it happened and then everything leading up to the mom finding her body, masterful.

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I enjoyed her death a lot because it's also a really clever twist on these types of films. Normally Charlie would be the centerpiece of the whole movie where things start happening around her because of whatever supernatural shit is going on, so I would've never guessed that she'd die almost off the bat.
 

Carn

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Oct 27, 2017
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Watched it yesterday, and didnt immediatly like it. I pretty much got the whole story, but needed to read some interviews with the director to really get what he was trying to do. Now, I think its a really good film; but not "greatest horror movie ever" or anything like that. I think the movie would have been SO much better if they toned down some of the extreme supernatural stuff like spidermom, spidermom chasing down her son, and her floating headless corpse. That totally took me out of the movie and actually made me laugh a bit, while it should be a moment of terror. But everything else, especially the dread and family drama and (most of) the acting was stellar, especially the dinner scene. That's Oscar material for Collette.
 

Darkwing-Buck

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Oct 25, 2017
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That scene early on where the main character see's her dead mom in the dark corner of her eye was like the realist/creepiest shit ever.

Like I don't believe in ghosts but I can understand seeing things like that especially coming off of losing a love one and hallucinating just enough you think it's there for a split second.
 

Dmax3901

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Oct 25, 2017
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That scene early on where the main character see's her dead mom in the dark corner of her eye was like the realist/creepiest shit ever.

Like I don't believe in ghosts but I can understand seeing things like that especially coming off of losing a love one and hallucinating just enough you think it's there for a split second.
Yeah I saw this in the cinema and that first moment of the grandma in the corner absolutely set the tone for the rest of the movie. I was on EDGE, which made everything else afterward more powerful.
 

Moff

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Oct 26, 2017
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so I went in and watched it without knowing anything about it as everyone advised

I expected something subtle
the death of Charlie pissed me off because it changed the mood completely from subtle to something more like Braindead, and I couldn't emphasize with any character anymore and I disliked the movie for a few minutes

Then came Aunt Lydia and I love the actress so that got my attention again.

But then came the very short scene where the mother found the books of her mother and the movie went from 4/10 to 10/10 for me in a split second.
Rosemary's Baby is my favorite Horror movie and Satanic Horror is the best, the very best.
Everything after that was amazing, I actually rootet for the Coven for the entire last third of the film and hoped that indeed the Demon King could be conjured, the end made me very happy.
I'd be even up nor for an Aliens kind of sequel that goes full on Hell on Earth.

All Hail King Paimon.
 

More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah I saw this in the cinema and that first moment of the grandma in the corner absolutely set the tone for the rest of the movie. I was on EDGE, which made everything else afterward more powerful.
Oh yeah, that scene of her finding the note and seeing the grandmother in the shadows, I was in. The movie was speaking my language.

As soon as we saw that note, I was thinking cult in the back of my mind, so the whole movie had this uneasy aura because even the dysfunctional family drama felt like it could be dark cult machinations punishing the family to its breaking point.
 

chandoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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That scene early on where the main character see's her dead mom in the dark corner of her eye was like the realist/creepiest shit ever.

Like I don't believe in ghosts but I can understand seeing things like that especially coming off of losing a love one and hallucinating just enough you think it's there for a split second.

Near the end when the son wakes up (after getting his nose broken and after the father gets burned) and there is a very long shot of the son slowly waking up and you see the mother just hanging on the wall ....

That shot creeped the fuck out of me.
 

FunkyPajamas

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Rosemary's Baby is my favorite Horror movie and Satanic Horror is the best, the very best.
Amen! My favorite kind of horror too, by far.
so I went in and watched it without knowing anything about it as everyone advised

I expected something subtle
Kind of my experience as well. I was super hyped about the movie but hadn't even watched a trailer (was hyped due to word of mouth). But... the movie fell flat for me. I didn't find it scary at all. I thought the acting of the son was super weak and sometimes even annoying (then again teenagers are supposed to be annoying so I guess he was doing a good job?), Byrne was completely wasted as an actor (kind of reminded me of the dad in Stranger Things that's barely even there), and whatever sense of dread or creepiness was being built would be thrown away a few seconds or minutes later: the beheading was ridiculous, the mom crawling on the walls looked so out of place, then floating, etc. Honestly the parts with the miniature of the grandma, and the old naked people standing still around the house were the only scenes to make me feel uneasy.

Now, don't get me wrong; the "lore" part of the movie, even if super light on details, was pretty cool (I love demonology). The ending was fantastic (as in, it's nice to see a horror movie where the "good guys" lose), and the movie didn't rely on cheap jump scares, which is good.

But... man, what a letdown this was for me. I was expecting to be terrified out of my pants (I watched this alone in a cabin in the mountains at night), and I thought it was barely even creepy. I didn't feel any connection to the characters, hell, the kids actually took me "out" of the movie. The son looks like a 20+ year old guy but is supposed to be in high school, and the mom didn't really grab me with the acting; I felt it was pretty weak.

Even the dialogue seemed forced at times. The movie opens with the mother doing some exposition monologue at the funeral. "OH MY MOM WAS SUPER SECRETIVE AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN HERE I DON'T KNOW. HOW ABOUT THAT HUH!?". Yikes. Then a super obvious zoom into the necklaces/symbols. Blegh.

I actually rootet for the Coven for the entire last third of the film and hoped that indeed the Demon King could be conjured
Heh, same here. I mean, it's not like any of the characters were even remotely interesting to me, so why wouldn't I want the demon to be conjured and these bunch of paper bags to be eliminated? Not that there was really any pay-off to the summoning either. The final scene is just... not there. The kid is looking shocked/confused even though the demon is now supposed to be in him (her? they call him Charlie, right?), so... what, it didn't work? Did it? There's no tension in that scene at all, just... awkwardness? I know it's unfair to compare this to Rosemary's Baby, but... come on! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv3p8kIyqLI

I wish I could have enjoyed this like most of you did. I keep reading great things about the movie and it seems like maybe I didn't "get it". I'll probably watch it again sometime (I bought it on Amazon video), but... eh.
 

Arta

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Near the end when the son wakes up (after getting his nose broken and after the father gets burned) and there is a very long shot of the son slowly waking up and you see the mother just hanging on the wall ....

That shot creeped the fuck out of me.
Best part about that was the audience slowly realizing and pointing to the figure to their friends who hadn't seen it yet.
 

Mirage

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah I saw this in the cinema and that first moment of the grandma in the corner absolutely set the tone for the rest of the movie. I was on EDGE, which made everything else afterward more powerful.
That scene really got me, just them showing it so casually. Really had me creeped out for the rest of the movie.
 
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Best part about that was the audience slowly realizing and pointing to the figure to their friends who hadn't seen it yet.

The contrast in my theater was so poor I didn't even see her above the son in his bedroom until the shot where she scampered out the door. When I saw it at home I couldn't believe I had missed that.
 

Speevy

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Oct 26, 2017
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I liked the film overall, but I've never found possession to be a really effective storytelling device in most movies. Not that it isn't incredibly creepy, but it allows rules to be invented on the fly, like for who is being possessed, when and how the possession ends, and whether the "spirit" or "demon" has an intent to kill or just scare everyone.

Like...what's the risk of a demon-possessed person chasing someone around a house when that person is possessed 5 minutes later? Aren't these spirits invisible most of the time?

It makes you distrust yourself for having invested in characters because you're saying "Oh, they're compromised." and you never trust them again.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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This movie did almost nothing for me, I went in completely blind outside of having heard it's the scariest movie of 2018 and came away super unimpressed. The movie moves at a glacial pace and as a result the scares feel separated by legitimate eons of mildly interesting but ultimately boring family drama. There is entirely too much foreshadowing and it ruins the movie. The best scene by metric miles is the car decapitation but even that was ruined due to the awkward foreshadowing with the weird lingering shot of the symbol (which was also on the necklace of grandma in the coffin) on the post minutes prior. When it happened I was like wow that's some sweet coincidence, and then the rest of the plot happens, and the reveals happen, and I keep coming back to that pole in my mind. Why was that symbol there? Did the cultists know? How did they know? Was this their plan because it's a plan filled with amazing coincidences.

Then there's things like the grand ma in the corner & field of grass that just feel unconnected and confusing. Is she haunting them? I mean I guess she gave up after the pole decap but prior to that she was just like hey kids I'm chilling. It's bloat and it wasn't all that creepy to me, I mean, I've seen ghostly apparitions of dead family members a majillion times and it ultimately felt unrelated to the actual main plot to me.

As a final gripe I found the highschool kid that smokes pot, drives a car, looks 25, and has thick stubble being too much of a pussy to escape his clearly insane mom a bit unbelievable. Also the noise he makes when he cries is proper weirdo territory.

Ultimately I give this movie a rating of some old bullshit/10 and would only recommend it to people for the admittedly creepy shots near the end of mom self decapitating etc..
 
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Truant

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Oct 28, 2017
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Anyone remember being at a friends house as a kid and seeing their parents argue or get in a fight?

That's what this film feels like.
 

Mr. Fantastic

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saw this yesterday

holy shit

easily top 10 horror movie of all time, hell probably top 5

not sure if this or the witch is better
 

uniform

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Oct 27, 2017
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On the walk home we started to talk about Painmon and if he is talked about in the book I have at home...

Reading about him makes the cult in the movie so much more fun as well, finding connections to stuff that happens

First thing I did after viewing the film was search Paimon. Quite the interesting character.
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I love that they based him on and actual spirit in texts of old, unlike say the Pazuzu demon in the Exorcist, which seems to only be loosely based on the one in writings.
 

Conkerkid11

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Oct 25, 2017
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Maybe I'm just desensitized to scary shit at this point, but this didn't seem scary at all. Loved the acting and the way everything was shot though. Hate the bullshit we get so often where there's like 50 cuts in a single scene. The way it was shot also worked really well with the whole idea involving miniatures too, even if it gave us weird lines like

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Ending was odd though. Like, I paid enough attention that I understood what happened when the son basically died after leaping out the window, but it all boiled down to whether or not the audience paid attention to a single page in a book the mom was flipping through. If you paid attention for like 5 seconds of a 2 hour movie, you understood what the grandma and all these nutty characters were doing, and what would happen as soon as the son died. That seems like a strange approach.

And nothing else is really explained. Maybe I'll learn more by skimming through a Wikipedia article about Paimon, but I don't understand why he was still behaving strangely when in the correct body. Did Charlie ever really exist in the daughter's body, or was it always Paimon? What was with all the beheadings? Why was the mom doing crazy shit when sleep walking? Why wasn't Paimon capable of inhabiting the grandmother's son when he killed himself? It just kind of feels like most movies where they scraped together an ending as quickly as possible to push the movie out the door with all the naked dead people flying around. Like, I audibly said "whoa" when it took me awhile to notice the mom in the top left corner of the room when the son wakes up for the last time right after the dad's burned, but then every scene after that turns into Where's Waldo? with a random naked ghost hiding somewhere in a dark corner in every scene just smiling at the camera as if to say to the audience, "nice job, you found me."

Just... Everything's explained away as cultist shit. Why'd they go through so much trouble to kill the kid the way they did? How hard is it to find a male body for a spirit to inhabit? And who gets to reap the reward? The one woman in the cult still alive?

And to top it off, way to go the easy route of having the evil thing in the movie have a unique noise they make. Did this start with Ju-On, or even further back? All I know is I've seen it in Ju-On with the throat noise, The Conjuring with the clap, The Babadook with the "Babadook-ook-ook", and now this with the tongue clicking. I'm sure there's more, but it seems kind of lazy is all.
 

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Maybe I'm just desensitized to scary shit at this point, but this didn't seem scary at all. Loved the acting and the way everything was shot though. Hate the bullshit we get so often where there's like 50 cuts in a single scene. The way it was shot also worked really well with the whole idea involving miniatures too, even if it gave us weird lines like

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Ending was odd though. Like, I paid enough attention that I understood what happened when the son basically died after leaping out the window, but it all boiled down to whether or not the audience paid attention to a single page in a book the mom was flipping through. If you paid attention for like 5 seconds of a 2 hour movie, you understood what the grandma and all these nutty characters were doing, and what would happen as soon as the son died. That seems like a strange approach.

And nothing else is really explained. Maybe I'll learn more by skimming through a Wikipedia article about Paimon, but I don't understand why he was still behaving strangely when in the correct body. Did Charlie ever really exist in the daughter's body, or was it always Paimon? What was with all the beheadings? Why was the mom doing crazy shit when sleep walking? Why wasn't Paimon capable of inhabiting the grandmother's son when he killed himself? It just kind of feels like most movies where they scraped together an ending as quickly as possible to push the movie out the door with all the naked dead people flying around. Like, I audibly said "whoa" when it took me awhile to notice the mom in the top left corner of the room when the son wakes up for the last time right after the dad's burned, but then every scene after that turns into Where's Waldo? with a random naked ghost hiding somewhere in a dark corner in every scene just smiling at the camera as if to say to the audience, "nice job, you found me."

Just... Everything's explained away as cultist shit. Why'd they go through so much trouble to kill the kid the way they did? How hard is it to find a male body for a spirit to inhabit? And who gets to reap the reward? The one woman in the cult still alive?

And to top it off, way to go the easy route of having the evil thing in the movie have a unique noise they make. Did this start with Ju-On, or even further back? All I know is I've seen it in Ju-On with the throat noise, The Conjuring with the clap, The Babadook with the "Babadook-ook-ook", and now this with the tongue clicking. I'm sure there's more, but it seems kind of lazy is all.

What I understood, Somewhere before the birth of Charlie, grandma joined the cult. Annie's next child would be the host for Paimon. When Charlie was born, grandma thought it was a boy (even named her Charles initially), and she was her favorite (or the chosen one). When she turned out to be a girl instead, it was planned that she would be sacrificed and once dead, her spirit combined with Paimon will be in a male body, thus Peter's body was chosen as the vessel. When the family did the chant in the house, the ritual began, Paimon took over Charlie's spirit, and soon once Peter died, Charlie/Paimon took over his body.

Something like that. I think grandma first tried on her brother but didn't succeed (he ended up dying anyway or something?)
 

IMACOMPUTA

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Oct 27, 2017
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I watched this movie last night.
It was a fucking stressful draining mindfuck all the way through and probably my favorite horror movie of all time.
It's been said dozens of times in this thread, but the scene of Charlie dying and Peter's reaction into the shot of him eyes wide open as Mom discovers Charlies remains in the car is probably the most effective piece of cinema I've ever seen. Ho-ly FUCK.
I don't know if it was just because I was SO into it throughout, but I cannot even being to understand any laughing at the movie. Even the criticisms of Peter's crying seem so unfair. He's a kid, and he's BROKEN. He wants his mommy and he's crying like a little baby because of all the shit he's going through. This was totally believable to me given what was going on in this movie.
I want to watch this again but at the same time never want to see it again. It's so emotionally draining. I can't wait to see what the director does next.
Are we supposed to buy that the ending is happening for a fact?

The whole family has a history of mental illness and the tension of the film is rooted in whether Annie/Peter's visions are actually real or just one real long dissociative episode.
Is the demonic posession caused by mental illness or is the mental illness caused by demonic possession?
 
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metalgear89

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The scene with annie beheading herself whilst hovering in the attic, haven't shit my pants that bad in years. Initially i'm like what the fuck is she doing and then the zoom in killed me.

Tbh almost lost interest in the first hour, the second hour when everything started to fit together definitley made this one of the best horror movies i've seen.

Also why the hell did annie let charlie go to the party with peter? That shit made no sense, who the hell lets there troubled child go to a party where teenagers will just be doing drugs and shit, who the fuck is she gonna make friends with?
 

Pilgrimzero

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I liked it. Glad it was supernatural. I hate it when a film theses ghosts or whatever but nope she's just crazy!

Babadook being the latest offender.
 

rocketpunch

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Just saw it. This movie was so, so close to perfect for me. It was just so brutally gritty and dark with just the right amount of supernatural mystery. Then the last 15 minutes went super over the top starting with the wall crawling body, followed by the sped up body of the mother cutteing off her head, the headless floating corpse, and finally the long winded, strangely specific monologue that gives a precise plot summary that felt totally out of place in the movie. Those parts were so disappointing that I hope we get an alternate cut with some of that removed, including the entire ending speech. For me, that would absolutely take it from a 4 star movie to a 5 and place it in my top 3 horror movies of all time.

Ah well. So close to perfection!
 

Oilvomer

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The scene with annie beheading herself whilst hovering in the attic, haven't shit my pants that bad in years. Initially i'm like what the fuck is she doing and then the zoom in killed me.

Tbh almost lost interest in the first hour, the second hour when everything started to fit together definitley made this one of the best horror movies i've seen.

Also why the hell did annie let charlie go to the party with peter? That shit made no sense, who the hell lets there troubled child go to a party where teenagers will just be doing drugs and shit, who the fuck is she gonna make friends with?


We were like that, the first hour was "why is everyone saying this film is scary as hell" then the second hour.....was just wow
 

More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
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Rewatched the movie. In hindsight, the first classroom scene basically establishes the drama and horror of the movie
...It's more tragic because if all is inevitable, then that means the characters have no hope. They never had hope because they are all like...hopeless. They are like pawns on this horrible hopelss machine."
Which of course ties into the miniatures imagery and aesthetic
 

Hampig

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Just saw it. This movie was so, so close to perfect for me. It was just so brutally gritty and dark with just the right amount of supernatural mystery. Then the last 15 minutes went super over the top starting with the wall crawling body, followed by the sped up body of the mother cutteing off her head, the headless floating corpse, and finally the long winded, strangely specific monologue that gives a precise plot summary that felt totally out of place in the movie. Those parts were so disappointing that I hope we get an alternate cut with some of that removed, including the entire ending speech. For me, that would absolutely take it from a 4 star movie to a 5 and place it in my top 3 horror movies of all time.

Ah well. So close to perfection!
This is a perfect example of why no film can ever be perfect. I loved the last 15 minutes, and I think it totally made the movie for me.
 

Jakke_Koala

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Just saw it last night. The movie was alright. I laughed every time the son started crying. The sound of that was really funny.
5minutes into the movie and i thought it was gonna be like Rosemary's baby. I don't know why i thought it, but I read somewhere here There's a lot of exposition during the movie and i have to say i agree, and it's not really subtle.

I can understand why people like it, but if you're quite into the horror genre, it's all a bit "been there, done that"

The inspirations it took from were all better in my opinion. And the acting was quite good. A solid 7 out of 10
 

meadowdrone

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Re. laughing, honestly I found the movie to be pretty decent and was enjoyably tense and spooky throughout, but the shot where the mother floats up into the treehouse near the end was so cartoonishy unconvincing and cheap looking that we all started giggling and it totally broke the atmosphere.

Enjoyable movie though! Don't do much horror because so many trailers look so generic and uninspired so was nice to see an actually interesting one.