If you were an employer, would you hire a Trump supporter?

If anyone brought up their political views in an interview that would be kind of a red flag in my mind, left or right... lol

Overall, political views should really have nothing to do with hiring unless it leads to someone showing destructive behavior that can do harm... obviously showing any racial bias or discriminatory views is under that.

That said I'm also only human, if I was doing an interview and knew they were a trump supporter... I would have unease in the back of my mind. There would be a google/social media search for damn sure lol

As someone who was outed at one job after hire and had it effect me with promotions I would never want someone to repeat that experience over a political view or because they wear a cross etc,

Now, if 2020 happens to come up trump and people still didn't get the lesson, my impartial feelings will go wayside lol

While you can't really ask people that kind of shit during an interview, you are allowed to ask for their social media. If I ever started a company it would most likely be in software development and my team would be the complete opposite of silicon valley in terms of make up, that means you'll see many black women, LGBT, etc. So I'd make a decision based on their social media and the things they expound upon whether or not I'm going to hire them.

Goldenroad said:

If they are the most qualified person for the job then yes. If there are two equally qualified people and one is wearing MAGA hat, I'm hiring the other guy. At the end of the day if I hire a less qualified person because of their political beliefs I am only hurting myself and my other employees.

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One can argue you'd also be hurting your employees if they're minorities and/or LGBT and that most qualified person is a Trump supporter.

If they are the most qualified person for the job then yes. If there are two equally qualified people and one is wearing MAGA hat, I'm hiring the other guy. At the end of the day if I hire a less qualified person because of their political beliefs I am only hurting myself and my other employees.

Ehhh, if I was in an employment position I wouldn't get into my employees political opinions. It's not really supposed to be my place. If I found they were trying to push their position in a way I deemed harassment that would be another story.

Ashidome said:

So you think that German people voted for Hitler's reign?

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Did they rise up and kill him? No? I guess by your own logic they didn't think he was that bad.

Only if they were the best candidate amd kept their views to themselves and didn't instigate shit like putting a maga hat on their desk.

I work with a left wing nut that you cant even mention the government let alone Trump before dude is red in the face yelling conspiracies and big brother bullshit.

So in the end.. I don't want anyone that pushes their political views on anyone no matter the side.

Good news bad news.

The good news is that the millennials here won't have to worry about this.

The bad news is that the one hiring them wears the maga hat!

Nope.

Even if I didnt mind the racism, sexism, xenophobia etc. I dont hire stupid people. Anyone who has seen Trump talk and thinks he is an intelligent person clearly isnt one themselves.

Ashidome said:

So you think that German people voted for Hitler's reign?

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Yes.

Yes they did. Barely.

Hitler was legally elected.

Ron Mexico said:

As someone that does have responsibility for personnel decisions, I'll know plenty about a candidate before ever getting to their political affiliation. You're not going to see a blank canvas with nothing more than "Trump supporter".

I hire for the fit within my team. The rest takes care of itself.

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Unlike the majority of responses, this is spoken like someone who actually does the hiring. This is spot on.

You hire for their skills/knowledge and compatibility for the team. If a candidate can't separate politics from work, then they just aren't the right candidate.

Doesn't matter party affiliation.

Spoopy Boatington said:

Did they rise up and kill him like you said Americans would do to Trump if they really thought Trump was that bad?

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No, they didn't. Which is why current day Germans would never allow for it to happen again.

But you seem to be fine with just venting on an internet forum, instead of doing something. I find that phoney.

Ashidome said:

So you think that German people voted for Hitler's reign?

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Alright, I see where you were going with your argument, but next time you may want to take a look back at history before you try to use it to emphasize a point...

As long as they don't bring their politics into the office, seems a non issue. I'd hire them if I think they would do the best job.

Not if I could help it. I've found that most Trump supporters will make themselves known one way or another, and it's usually by saying something needlessly offensive. There's also a greater chance the Trump supporter will get into some political altercation as controversies arise and election time nears. While I don't think all Trump supporters are necessarily racist or misogynist (most are), they all turn a blind eye to it.

If the candidate was far and away the best candidate for the job, I believe I would because it seems like it would be in the best interest of the company. I've noticed most Trump supporters can measure the temperature of the room and keep their thoughts to themselves.

Ashidome said:

I'll report this posting now. Come on, is that the level of discourse on Resetera? Sheesh ...

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Have you looked at the list of what the trump administration has done? Have you looked at the list of racists that actually are part of it.
And you think that doesn't warrant responses like that? Have some perspective and maybe appeal first to the human scum that are trump supporters first to stop being human scum. Then they'll be met with mutual respect.

Ashidome said:

No, they didn't. Which is why current day Germans would never allow for it to happen again.

But you seem to be fine with just venting on an internet forum, instead of doing something. I find that phoney.

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If that were true, the far-right wouldn't be gaining ground.

The poster you misunderstood before mentioned voting for a reason. There's also protesting, and donating, and getting others to vote. If nothing short of assassinating Trump qualifies as doing something in your eyes, then don't whine about violent language in the discourse on this forum.

If my boss hired an ardent Trump supporter, it likely would not go well. It's a small, social and diverse office where people feel free to talk about their interests, even occasional political talk.

An ardent Trump supporter would not mix well and thereys no way I'd advize my boss to do it.

Hell nah. I would rather hire DACA recipients.

entremet said:

In some states this is illegal actually. Discriminating based on political beliefs.

Key phrasing is not about asking, but making your decision on that knowledge. That is illegal in NY and California if I recall.

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Yeah, but if I had my way it'd still be a hard pass.

Supporting Trump goes beyond political beliefs.

id just have to fire them later when they're recorded being racist to some black toddlers or sommit

Goldenroad said:

If they are the most qualified person for the job then yes. If there are two equally qualified people and one is wearing MAGA hat, I'm hiring the other guy. At the end of the day if I hire a less qualified person because of their political beliefs I am only hurting myself and my other employees.

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But then couldn't the more qualified MAGA hat wearing employee also hurt your employees. Presuming any of your other employees are minorities.

The Woods said:

And what else would you expect them to do? Mid terms aren't until November in the States, the next presidential election is years away. For all you know they attend protests or spread awareness in their social circles or community.

It sounds like they are being true to themselves.

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Again: You think nazis are defeated by words and votes? What if the midterm vote ends in Trump's favor? Waiting for the next vote while Trump and his supporters shape the country?

Spoopy: The AfD is far from being nazis. They're shitty and dumb, but not nazis. And they still only got 12% of the vote. Your country is being ruled by, as you say, a nazi. Completely different.

What exactly has the qualifications of that person got to do with his political beliefs as misguided as it could be? Politics should be kept out of the office realm anyway. Though that's just my opinion.

Ashidome said:

Against, as some of you say, a nazi? Yes, absolutely.

Of course, my point as a German is that you should be more careful what to label people of differing political views as. Trump is bad, but he isn't nazi-bad. I advice reading up on German history if you still choose to disagree. Or put your mouth behind actions and do something to remove Trump. Not hope he goes away.

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As a german, your country understands that speech is a tool that can be harnessed as a weapon by malicious actors to the detriment of the general welfare and the public safety. You do not allow nazi ideology and symbology to be spread in the public sphere because you understand the horrors that such views cause.

In the US? Nazis march freely, because "free speech." There is a 24/7 web of right-wing propaganda that has been operating with impunity for decades under the guise of "free press" and "free speech" to indoctrinate a bubble of tens of millions of people to support whatever the Republicans do, say, think, and advocate for.

This has fermented over the decades to transform the sphere of conservative politics in the US into a cult, that is unified, destructive, and hostile to anyone not part of the group.

We are going through the same steps that the ultra-nationalistic european states went through in the early-mid 20th century, but with far more effective, organized, and widespread methods of propaganda, and a devotion to civil religion that is uniquely American.

Honestly, the entire world should be treating us like North Korea, or like how the US (except under Obama) has been treating Cuba for the last 70 years.

Ashidome said:

Spoopy: The AfD is far from being nazis. They're shitty and dumb, but not nazis. And they still only got 12% of the vote. Your country is being ruled by, as you say, a nazi. Completely different.

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Quote the post where I call Trump a Nazi, please.

Lord Brady said:

I'm a programmer. That would never come up in an interview. I wouldn't care otherwise as long as they were qualified.

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I'm a programmer too.

Roughly 50% of our staff is non-white, mostly Hispanic and Middle-Eastern. The other half is white, but most are still immigrants, from the US or Europe. Only maybe 15% of the staff is non-immigrant.

You can bet your ass I would never hire a Trump supporter. Doing so would create a hostile work environment. Besides, I wouldn't want to hire someone who openly supports a blatant misogynist.

Hiring programmers isn't just about hiring the best coder. Programmers interact with other employees too. Programmers need skills like teamwork, critical thinking, analytical minds. A Trump supporter would fail at those criteria.

FeistyBoots said:

This is the real answer. I could never hire someone who disagrees with factual reality on such a regular basis. Plus, I wouldn't willingly choose to work with racists/sexists/homophobes/transphobes like trump supporters. That's just creating a toxic work environment where other employees don't feel safe, on the dubious chance a trump supporter is better at the job than a non-racist.

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This.

Fuck no.

i'd hire someone to put more effort into making threads and not simply rely on 'trump' as a clickbait thread title and discussion point

Absolutely not.

TokyoJoe said:

What exactly has the qualifications of that person got to do with his political beliefs as misguided as it could be? Politics should be kept out of the office realm anyway. Though that's just my opinion.

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Being able to be a teamplayer within a diverse environment of say software developers I sure as hell would question someone that votes trump to possess that qualification. There you go.

This is like people talking about this mythical fiscal republican.

The mythical capable trump supporter that won't let his toxic views bleed into his work when interacting in a diverse environment. Fact is if you're hiring and it was easy for you to find out they're a trump voter you're hiring a PR disaster, someone that might make the work environment toxic by doing subtle harassment of the people they hate or someone that is simply too fucking stupid to do the work given their blatant ignorance of reality.

dr_octagon said:

i'd hire someone to put more effort into making threads and not simply rely on 'trump' as a clickbait thread title and discussion point

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id hire someone to tell you not to thread whine 400 posts in

Fat4all said:

id hire someone to tell you not to thread whine 400 posts in

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would they be a trump supporter though?

Holundrian said:

Being able to be a teamplayer within a diverse environment of say software developers I sure as hell would question someone that votes trump to possess that qualification. There you go.

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Isn't Peter Thiel a body of Trump?

dr_octagon said:

would they be a trump supporter though?

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no

Trump's not a nazi, he just allies with them and thinks there are good people in the neonazi groups, and his family has white supremacist history, and he has a history in his life of being a racist shitlord, but hes tooootally not a nazi guys

No. It means they probably lack critical thinking skills or empathy for others. There is no justification for supporting such a depraved man at this point.

TokyoJoe said:

Isn't Peter Thiel a body of Trump?

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Is Peter Thiel a software developer that has to work in a diverse team? Or is he someone calling the shots that doesn't need to care about that?

Also how does this relate to the original answer?

Morrigan said:

I'm a programmer too.

Roughly 50% of our staff is non-white, mostly Hispanic and Middle-Eastern. The other half is white, but most are still immigrants, from the US or Europe. Only maybe 15% of the staff is non-immigrant.

You can bet your ass I would never hire a Trump supporter. Doing so would create a hostile work environment. Besides, I wouldn't want to hire someone who openly supports a blatant misogynist.

Hiring programmers isn't just about hiring the best coder. Programmers interact with other employees too. Programmers need skills like teamwork, critical thinking, analytical minds. A Trump supporter would fail at those criteria.


This.

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And yet I work with plenty of people who voted for Trump who have no track record of failing at those criteria in the commission of their work. Doesn't matter anyway since we'd never be allowed to ask the question.

I'd they're doing some kind of labor then yes. If they're interacting with the public then no. If it's an office like job then maybe, it might be good to get them out of their bubble.

Holundrian said:

Is Peter Thiel is software developer that has to work in a diverse team? Or is he someone calling the shots that doesn't need to care about that?

Also how does this relate to the original answer?

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Then you will probably have to quit if you worked for him

Of course not. Anyone supporting Trump is a moron or a dishonest swine, or both.
Having employees like this is bad for business.

Plenty of places in Trumpville will discriminate against LGBT. Right-to-work means you can make up any reason to get rid of someone or not hire them, so I wouldn't.

I'd have to find out, it wouldn't be a question I ask.

TokyoJoe said:

Then you will probably have to quit if you worked for him

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Good job talking about something unrelated.

The Woods said:

You didn't answer my question, what are you expecting Spoopy Boatington to do? You called them out on being a phoney, when that doesn't sound accurate to how they've presented themselves. More so you just sound frustrated on being challenged here and are lashing out.

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If you're convinced that your president is a nazi, I'd expect you to form a weaponized rebellion and attack. That's the only reasonable course of action. Hitler didn't go away via words and votes.

And no, I'm not lashing out. I'm speaking realities.

Yeah. Just keep the craziness in check.

crazyfunster said:

Plenty of places in Trumpville will discriminate against LGBT. Right-to-work means you can make up any reason to get rid of someone or not hire them, so I wouldn't.

I'd have to find out, it wouldn't be a question I ask.

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Right to work has literally nothing to do with what you just said.