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Vandaas

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
81
If that person qualifies and matches the job description, yes.

Don't give a shit about someone's political leanings as long as that person does what I ask and does it well enough and earns his/her payment because of it.
 

The Artisan

"Angels are singing in monasteries..."
Moderator
Oct 27, 2017
8,096
I work in healthcare in an ethnically diverse neighborhood, so the complete lack of empathy would be a dealbreaker, even putting aside 'politics.'
I work in healthcare too but I don't see how politics would be brought up during an interview, unless someone went off on a tangent
 

Ashidome

Banned
Jun 28, 2018
107
HE IS RUNNING CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR ABDUCTED CHILDREN

Then why are you sitting at home only typing words on a screen? If YOUR PRESIDENT is as bad, no, evil as you claim, why not organize a weaponized rebellion now?

I'm sorry, but as a German I cannot understand that. If I was convinced that my government has been overtaken by literal nazis, I wouldn't sit at home, ranting on an internet forum. I'd try to get in touch with other people and look to violently remove the nazi.

That is if Trump was that bad. Maybe you don't think he is?
 

Frester

Member
Oct 25, 2017
424
I do hire/fire people as part of my job and making your decision to employ someone or not can't be affected by something like that, as people have previously pointed out it's illegal (in New York anyway).

Sure, if someone I'm interviewing says something blatantly racist, I don't hire them and that is justifiable. But their political leanings can't legally inform your decision about whether or not they can do the job they are interviewing for.
 
Oct 30, 2017
8,706
Then why are you sitting at home only typing words on a screen? If YOUR PRESIDENT is as bad, no, evil as you claim, why not organize a weaponized rebellion now?

I'm sorry, but as a German I cannot understand that. If I was convinced that my government has been overtaken by literal nazis, I wouldn't sit at home, ranting on an internet forum. I'd try to get in touch with other people and look to violently remove the nazi.

That is if Trump was that bad. Maybe you don't think he is?
Yeah... trying to organize to overthrow your government leaders isn't exactly a great idea.
We can't even make significant progress to tell people that these fascists aren't worthy of civility in the public sphere.
 

Son Goku

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
4,332
Then why are you sitting at home only typing words on a screen? If YOUR PRESIDENT is as bad, no, evil as you claim, why not organize a weaponized rebellion now?

I'm sorry, but as a German I cannot understand that. If I was convinced that my government has been overtaken by literal nazis, I wouldn't sit at home, ranting on an internet forum. I'd try to get in touch with other people and look to violently remove the nazi.

That is if Trump was that bad. Maybe you don't think he is?
I don't think the government would just allow an armed revolt. They have a lot of guns and most liberals aren't gun owners. None are tank or air force plane owners either afaik. Hell the NSA might get us If we ever even talked about starting this
 

Einbroch

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,978
Here's the thing... I would be pretty wary of hiring anyone who's being overtly political during the interview process. None of my questions should relate to politics, and I definitely would not be expecting political answers (unless they somehow relate to past experiences).

If you come into an interview in a MAGA hat, or you turn the conversation political my first thought is "This is the type of person who's going to butt heads with people."

Not that I'm against politics being discussed at work, but if you can't get one or two interviews without pushing your political beliefs forward I don't see you working at a company for years without butting heads with people.

This is not 'both siding' it. Undoubtedly Trump and the GOP are wrong, but at the same time when I was manager, my job was to insure that our team worked together well and confrontational types never gel well in the long run.
This.
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,888
Then why are you sitting at home only typing words on a screen? If YOUR PRESIDENT is as bad, no, evil as you claim, why not organize a weaponized rebellion now?

I'm sorry, but as a German I cannot understand that. If I was convinced that my government has been overtaken by literal nazis, I wouldn't sit at home, ranting on an internet forum. I'd try to get in touch with other people and look to violently remove the nazi.

That is if Trump was that bad. Maybe you don't think he is?

He is. At the very, very least he is enabling outright nazism and the rise of facism as a normalized system.

It's incredibly dangerous and not something a shockers can be tolerant of if it has any hopes of remaining just. Lending people like this tolerance will only allow their intolerant systems to take hold wider and tighter.

Again: the paradox of tolerance.

Maybe people should be in the streets, that doesn't make this any less true.
 

TheCthultist

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,442
New York
Then why are you sitting at home only typing words on a screen? If YOUR PRESIDENT is as bad, no, evil as you claim, why not organize a weaponized rebellion now?

I'm sorry, but as a German I cannot understand that. If I was convinced that my government has been overtaken by literal nazis, I wouldn't sit at home, ranting on an internet forum. I'd try to get in touch with other people and look to violently remove the nazi.

That is if Trump was that bad. Maybe you don't think he is?
Is the German government really that incapable of quelling a potential armed rebellion before it gets going? Because the US has systems in place to find out when stuff like that is happening and get rid of it pretty early. You'd be hard pressed to get enough people organized and armed in America without the government already knowing its coming and shutting it down well in advance with military or CIA intervention.
 

Ashidome

Banned
Jun 28, 2018
107
I don't think the government would just allow an armed revolt. They have a lot of guns and most liberals aren't gun owners. None are tank or air force plane owners either afaik. Hell the NSA might get us If we ever even talked about starting this


So a nazi is at the top of your country and you just roll over? Do you think you can defeat nazis through words?
 
Oct 27, 2017
42,700
I'd probably pass. People keep stating this bizarre logic that the person's political leanings don't make a difference, as if politics is completely divorced from their everyday societal interactions. People aren't just friendly and accepting Monday to Friday, then bigots on weekends. If they harbor hate, or support an administration that harbors hate, then they're hateful people ALL the time. At best they might hide it or keep it to themselves, but it still influence their worldview and interactions, if only just subtly. It'd be one thing if they were, say, Republican, but didn't vote for Trump and are vocal about their disagreements with the current party, but being a Trump voter is a very deliberate and telling act
 

rokkerkory

Banned
Jun 14, 2018
14,128
Then why are you sitting at home only typing words on a screen? If YOUR PRESIDENT is as bad, no, evil as you claim, why not organize a weaponized rebellion now?

I'm sorry, but as a German I cannot understand that. If I was convinced that my government has been overtaken by literal nazis, I wouldn't sit at home, ranting on an internet forum. I'd try to get in touch with other people and look to violently remove the nazi.

That is if Trump was that bad. Maybe you don't think he is?

You are trying to promote him to take up arms against the government? WTH?
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,888
I would only discriminate against comnunists. We've seen time and time again what they do to countries. Trump supporters are fine as long as they're not obnoxious dickwads about it.

Trump supporters are facism enablers that should be utterly ashamed of what their doing to the world. Dialing back progress by decades.
 
Oct 30, 2017
8,706
When you hire someone, you often want to make sure someone is a good fit for your organization beyond just possessing the right skills.
More often than not, diversity and inclusion are big parts of a company's mission.

Trump supporters are likely to be hostile towards that idea.
 

Ashidome

Banned
Jun 28, 2018
107
You are trying to promote him to take up arms against the government? WTH?

Against, as some of you say, a nazi? Yes, absolutely.

Of course, my point as a German is that you should be more careful what to label people of differing political views as. Trump is bad, but he isn't nazi-bad. I advice reading up on German history if you still choose to disagree. Or put your mouth behind actions and do something to remove Trump. Not hope he goes away.
 

Amnixia

▲ Legend ▲
The Fallen
Jan 25, 2018
10,411
Nope. I won't limit on this persons personal freedoms, but I sure as fuck won't give them any money.
 

XMonkey

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,827
I would totally hire a Trump supporter / voter. Workplaces need diversity and discriminating against people because of their political views is so wrong, that. I'm surprised this question is even being debated, on what is supposedly a liberal forum.
So let me get this straight, you say you want workplace diversity and that discrimination is bad, but then turn right around and say you're totally cool with Trump supporters even though what they support is blatant anti-diversity and pro-discrimination? Ok.

I'll quote the good post below to illustrate further why your stance is baffling.

"Just a political opinion" is a misnomer. Even in less divisive times, political opinions inform your core values, morals, and ethics. You are your politics. And these days, Trump supporters are not your garden variety "family values" conservatives. Anyone still on the Trump train displays a flagrant lack of empathy and critical thinking skills, as well as complete disdain for facts and intellectualism. Also a high likelihood of holding regressive views towards women and minorities.

All of these would be incompatible with my workplace.
 

Deleted member 8257

Oct 26, 2017
24,586
LOL fuck no. These pieces of dirt can beg on street and I wouldnt piss on them if they were on fire.
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
Then why are you sitting at home only typing words on a screen? If YOUR PRESIDENT is as bad, no, evil as you claim, why not organize a weaponized rebellion now?

I'm sorry, but as a German I cannot understand that. If I was convinced that my government has been overtaken by literal nazis, I wouldn't sit at home, ranting on an internet forum. I'd try to get in touch with other people and look to violently remove the nazi.

That is if Trump was that bad. Maybe you don't think he is?
Lol
 

Son Goku

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
4,332
So a nazi is at the top of your country and you just roll over? Do you think you can defeat nazis through words?
Through elections yes. I think military officials would revolt if he ever tried to impede free and fair elections in any manor. I also don't believe things are as bad as some claim. My area hasn't changed much since trump took over. The situation on the border is awful and he obviously won't be getting my vote but that's been a mess for a looooong time and when Reagan tried to solve it before by giving amnesty somehow immigration reform got put off again. I wish they'd go ahead and give him his wall and get quicker and easier immigration and a greatly increased number of immigrants allowed in in return. The cost of the wall is miniscule compared to most government expenses like the military budget so at this point I'll take that over kids in cages
 

Deleted member 7878

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
382
So let me get this straight, you say you want workplace diversity and that discrimination is bad, but then turn right around and say you're totally cool with Trump supporters even though what they support is blatant anti-diversity and pro-discrimination? Ok.

I'll quote the good post below to illustrate further why your stance is baffling.

I think discrimination is a bad thing. I think discriminating against people because of their political views is intolerant and illiberal. I think the path that most people are following in here leads to increased polarisation and further poisoning of society. Which is why I'd definitely hire someone even if they have political views I disagree with. It would even marginally be a plus point, if they could articulate why they vote how they do.
 

rokkerkory

Banned
Jun 14, 2018
14,128
Against, as some of you say, a nazi? Yes, absolutely.

Of course, my point as a German is that you should be more careful what to label people of differing political views as. Trump is bad, but he isn't nazi-bad. I advice reading up on German history if you still choose to disagree. Or put your mouth behind actions and do something to remove Trump. Not hope he goes away.

Good thing we have this thing called voting to remove people we don't like in power.
 

aerie

wonky
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
8,030
Then why are you sitting at home only typing words on a screen? If YOUR PRESIDENT is as bad, no, evil as you claim, why not organize a weaponized rebellion now?

I'm sorry, but as a German I cannot understand that. If I was convinced that my government has been overtaken by literal nazis, I wouldn't sit at home, ranting on an internet forum. I'd try to get in touch with other people and look to violently remove the nazi.

That is if Trump was that bad. Maybe you don't think he is?
They aren't literally nazi's, but it is a new wave of American fascism, and the nazi comparison can be apt with the excessive authoritarianism, bigoted, hateful policy and racial, xenophobic fear mongering and Trumps disturbing habit to imitate Hitlers speeches and parlance*.

Are we going to reach ethnic cleansing? No. Do American citizens need to start an armed revolt? No, but what is happening is appalling, and people are right to be shocked, outraged, and to carry that anger forward until they can vote, and past that so the nation doesn't make these mistakes again.

This isn't conservative ideology anymore, this is Trumpism, and it is fascism.

* - http://thehill.com/homenews/media/3...ty-for-reading-anything-were-the-adolf-hitler
 
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Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
I think discrimination is a bad thing. I think discriminating against people because of their political views is intolerant and illiberal. I think the path that most people are following in here leads to increased polarisation and further poisoning of society. Which is why I'd definitely hire someone even if they have political views I disagree with. It would even marginally be a plus point, if they could articulate why they vote how they do.
Ah yes it's the intolerance of bigotry that's poisoning society, not the people who are actively discriminating in the first place. Get a grip.
 

How About No

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,785
The Great Dairy State
I think discrimination is a bad thing. I think discriminating against people because of their political views is intolerant and illiberal. I think the path that most people are following in here leads to increased polarisation and further poisoning of society. Which is why I'd definitely hire someone even if they have political views I disagree with. It would even marginally be a plus point, if they could articulate why they vote how they do.
why are you hiring people to discuss politics

let them do their job til they inevitably fuck it up

nah wait I for one would love a jovial discussion over tea on the merits of putting children in cages and permanently separating them from their parents
 
Oct 28, 2017
27,072
Too slippery a slope. I'm not letting the zeitgeist dictate, even if I agree with the principle. This is how shit goes bad.
 

Hyun Sai

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,562
Being a Trump supporter is not a political view. Not anymore. It's much worse than that.

So no, fuck these people.