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Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
Would I hire someone who voted for laws that actively antagonize me and my fellow workers?

Lol
 

Deleted member 18360

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm not sure how it would be possible to dissociate it from their character, it really can't be framed as a 'conservative vs. liberal' thing anymore. At this point it denotes either a lack of empathy or a lack of critical thinking, so no, I wouldn't.
 

Alternade

Member
Oct 27, 2017
711
No. And if somehow they slipped through the cracks, like the roaches they are, I'd do everything within my power and reason to make their life a living hell at work
 
Nov 2, 2017
951
All that matters to me is a person's ability to do the job, and being respectful to the guests. I would expect them to leave politics at the door, just like I do.
 

Chronos

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,204
Or I could just hire someone more qualified who isn't a shitheel that will bitch and whine about my policies for employee behaviour and how it's "against freeze peach!".

Every company has policies that enforce federal law or they will be sued into compliance/oblivion. No employee whines against it if they want to keep their job. You are being unnecessarily hyperbolic. This just doesn't happen on any scale worth worrying about.
 

RDreamer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,106
I would have a very strong apprehension to it because my company tries to be very inclusive and welcoming of everyone and anyone. The jobs we mostly hire are customer facing and they're hard enough to pull off without having some sort of inherent bias against what might very likely be our customers at that time.

That's mostly if they're outwardly showing it to the point where we'd even know.
 

Rayne

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,634
I'm not sure how it would be possible to dissociate it from their character. At this point it denotes either a lack of empathy or a lack of critical thinking, so no, I wouldn't.

This is where I'm at.

I've yet to meet a Trump supporter I haven't found to be an idiot or actively malicious.
 

TheGhost

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
28,137
Long Island
Or I could just hire someone more qualified who isn't a shitheel that will bitch and whine about my policies for employee behaviour and how it's "against freeze peach!".
So just because someone voted trump they are automatically a shit heel? With out knowing jack shit about them?

Sticking on topic you would have a pretty small hiring pool if everyone else is only hiring people with your ideal idealogy. That's half the country being unemployed probably. Your business would probably fail. A lot of businesses would fail if they had purity tests for jobs.

Face it, people can vote republican and.....be great at their jobs. It's work, stop acting like everyone who does not think like you hates all minorities as well, that is simply not the case.
 

Dark Knight

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,314
I think that has more to do with their judgement. How could I hire someone who had or has the judgement to support that thing.
 

Tbm24

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,329
Probably not, if only because that would mean he'd want my brown self deported. I don't associate with Trump supporters or people who argue with me that voting doesn't matter.
 

FreezePeach

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,811
There is something off about modern Trump supporters, so if i was privy to that information beforehand, in an effort to only hire the best qualified, the only logical choice is to not hire them. This is what happens when you jump on the stupid hate train.
 

aerie

wonky
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
8,036
As someone who used to employ people i'd never bring up politics during a hiring process, but would certainly hire someone who i felt was conservative, if somehow i knew they were some MAGA type hardliner however i would not feel comfortable in the slightest bringing them into the work place, and would pass, for many reasons (lack of sympathy, perspective, compassion, critical thinking, etc etc).
 
Dec 2, 2017
20,640
So just because someone voted trump they are automatically a shit heel? With out knowing jack shit about them?

Sticking on topic you would have a pretty small hiring pool if everyone else is only hiring people with your ideal idealogy. That's half the country being unemployed probably. Your business would probably fail. A lot of businesses would fail if they had purity tests for jobs.

Face it, people can vote republican and.....be great at their jobs. It's work, stop acting like everyone who does not think like you hates all minorities as well, that is simply not the case.

Yes because they are endorsing everything him and his administration says and does.
 

Fisty

Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,227
So just because someone voted trump they are automatically a shit heel? With out knowing jack shit about them?

Sticking on topic you would have a pretty small hiring pool if everyone else is only hiring people with your ideal idealogy. That's half the country being unemployed probably. Your business would probably fail. A lot of businesses would fail if they had purity tests for jobs.

Face it, people can vote republican and.....be great at their jobs. It's work, stop acting like everyone who does not think like you hates all minorities as well, that is simply not the case.

I have a few Republican friends

I have zero Trump-supporter friends
 

Riversands

Banned
Nov 21, 2017
5,669
It's also kinda a dilemma. One side says it's freedom of speech, the other side says they are shitty people. So yeah. I pick the latter
 

mindatlarge

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,926
PA, USA
I am in charge of hiring new personnel at my work. People are hired due to the merits of their skills, not for any other reason, political or otherwise. Anyone in the position of hiring should know better than to discriminate for any reason.

Our staff is made up of all sorts of people, some love the president, others don't but in the end, we all get along and make a great team.
 

yogurt

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,847
If they're the best candidate for the position and their political beliefs don't interfere with their job-related duties, then yes, I guess?

As others have said, if someone just marches into an interview and says "IM A TRUMP SUPPORTER MAGA" then that speaks to a bigger issue with work place behavior, but by the same token I also wouldn't hire someone that marched in and said "DUMP DRUMPF #THERESISTANCE".

If your political views don't affect the job I'm hiring you to do, then they're not my business. And vice versa, my employer has no business knowing my political views when they're not relevant. I would be appalled if I were asked about my political beliefs for most non-political jobs.
 

adj_noun

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
17,217
It was made pretty clear to me early on that political discrimination during our hiring processes is a teensy bit of a blaring klaxon of a no-no.
 

PhazonBlonde

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May 18, 2018
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Somewhere deep in space
So just because someone voted trump they are automatically a shit heel? With out knowing jack shit about them?

Sticking on topic you would have a pretty small hiring pool if everyone else is only hiring people with your ideal idealogy. That's half the country being unemployed probably. Your business would probably fail. A lot of businesses would fail if they had purity tests for jobs.

Face it, people can vote republican and.....be great at their jobs. It's work, stop acting like everyone who does not think like you hates all minorities as well, that is simply not the case.
If they're still supporting Trump now in July 2018 that means they want concentration camps. If you think it's discrimination to not hire nazis, then so be it
 

Deleted member 1041

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Oct 25, 2017
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So like, how do people plan on seeding out trump supporters in this fantasy of theirs

Its not a common interview question
Its not a question on the application.
 

flyinj

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,961
It is an interesting question.

On one hand, it is illegal to not hire based on political beliefs. On the other hand, there are laws in place that outlaw discrimination based on race.

So if you hire a Trump supporter and you have minorities that work for you, you are potentially putting those minorities at risk of discrimination if the Trump employee is their superior.

If anything it sounds like an HR nightmare.
 

Stouffers

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,924
Anyone who brings up politics, any politics, during a job interview probably isnt fit to hire. Unless the job calls for it, of course.
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
It was made pretty clear to me early on that political discrimination during our hiring processes is a teensy bit of a blaring klaxon of a no-no.
On a more serious note though it r rally depends on their attitude. Discriminating on hiring political beliefs is wrong and maybe illegal depending, but again if they're a blatant supporter it'll probably come out that they're racist or sexist or homophobic and that's a solid reason to not hire or fire someone
 

JABEE

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,854
Yes. I would hire someone with different political beliefs than me. I'm not sure how I would determine their political beliefs during an interview, because asking that type of question is pretty damn illegal.

If i was using some kind of heuristic to find out which side of the political spectrum they were, then I would be disgusted by myself.

If someone was racist or clearly an asshole during the interview, then I would weed them out.
 

Rayne

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,634
So like, how do people plan on seeding out trump supporters in this fantasy of theirs

Its not a common interview question
Its not a question on the application.

I'd imagine most HR look you up before the interview and a lot of people aren't careful with what they put on their social media.
 

Anthony Mooch

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
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You would get sued into oblivion if they found out thats the key reason. Thats an easy multi million dollar lawsuit right there.
 

Unicorn

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Oct 29, 2017
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In some states this is illegal actually. Discriminating based on political beliefs.

Key phrasing is not about asking, but making your decision on that knowledge. That is illegal in NY and California if I recall.
Well, considering the sort of people that are Trump supporters, their core idealogy/ethics/values would often oppose what a company is looking for... so it wouldn't even need to come down to "we didn't hire you because you support Trump," but would instead be, "We didn't hire you because you don't possess a level of empathy required for this position. Or, you don't have social/personable skills required to makes sales, meetings, etc. productive."

Why should any science-related, evidence-based, or socially-dedicated field hire anyone that fundamentally opposes any of those core features?
 

Spine Crawler

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
10,228
about half of the us supports trump so it would be foolish to limit yourself to half of the candidates for a position
 

aerie

wonky
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Oct 25, 2017
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So like, how do people plan on seeding out trump supporters in this fantasy of theirs

Its not a common interview question
Its not a question on the application.
Thats irrelevant to the question stated. OP isn't asking how would you go about not hiring a Trump supporter, or someone supportive of this new wave of American fascism, OP is asking would you feel comfortable hiring a Trump supporter. He literally says: "you just magically know".
 

Xe4

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,295
If I magically knew, I'm sure I'd know other stuff like whether they'd be a complete jerk in work and stuff. Essentially, can you treat everyone equally (y/n)?
I'd certainly never ask, because I don't think asking for peoples political views is moral (or even legal TBH).

about half of the us supports trump so it would be foolish to limit yourself to half of the candidates for a position
The number is actually closer to a quarter.
 

FreezePeach

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Oct 25, 2017
12,811
Well, considering the sort of people that are Trump supporters, their core idealogy/ethics/values would often oppose what a company is looking for... so it wouldn't even need to come down to "we didn't hire you because you support Trump," but would instead be, "We didn't hire you because you don't possess a level of empathy required for this position. Or, you don't have social/personable skills required to makes sales, meetings, etc. productive."
Yeah, the right has adopted the idea of being the enemy of common decency across all spectrums as a political belief.
 

Unicorn

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 29, 2017
9,555
about half of the us supports trump so it would be foolish to limit yourself to half of the candidates for a position
That's hardly true at all. Maybe you had a leg to stand on right after election season, but now... Several supporters have voiced remorse and regret for their vote.
 

dpunk3

Member
Oct 27, 2017
376
Massachusetts, USA
It's not really black and white, if the person is a conservative that won't assist LGBT or African Americans because that's what they are, then no fuck off. If they just believe he will help them economically why not. They're just stupid, but they only need to be smart enough to do the job they are hired for.
 
Oct 29, 2017
5,354
I would only hire them if they never brought it up and it didn't become apparent in the interview process (by "apparent" I mean them saying something blatantly xenophobic/sexist/racist/MAGA). If that DOES come up, that shit wouldn't fly regardless of what Cheeto they like in the White House.

Ex: if I'm running a store and this is some douchebag that's gonna call the cops on black clientele or deny gay people service they can get fucked with a 10 foot cactus
 

Rayne

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,634
Also Republican/Conservative =/= Trump Supporter. I don't have any issues working with the former two.
 
Oct 27, 2017
39,148
No.

I would want the workplace to be going smoothly without any problem and if there is someone actively supporting Trump then problems will arise.
 

Johnny Blaze

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Oct 29, 2017
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DE
Anyone who brings up politics, any politics, during a job interview probably isnt fit to hire. Unless the job calls for it, of course.
Yep.

But if the Facebook profile is public and consists of conspiracy theory nutjob shit then I would have no issue with not employing such a person. Would obviously not use it as reason though.
 

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No Depth

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Oct 27, 2017
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Realistically, I wouldn't broach the subject in the interview or hiring process, it wouldn't be related to the work itself and asking their personal politics is a slippery slope to profiling candidates in a way I wouldn't prefer to make a norm. However...

If I were to be informed of their support for bigotry, immoral social design, and unethical practices that Trump-ism condones? (Either by them, their contacts, or through external research during the hiring phase) Well they would have no place on our team. They would be immediately cut from their standing in the process. Zero tolerance for intolerant pricks I say.
 

shan780

The Fallen
Nov 2, 2017
2,566
UK
from what i understand, employers arent allowed to ask this sort of thing
if any candidate felt the need to bring up their political affiliation during an interview, i'd probably be asking questions

if i were to find out after searching for them online or something, i would probably try to ignore it (seeing as it's apparently illegal to discriminate based on that information). if it was reflected in their attitude during or after the interview, they'd be out