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Walked by over 10-Cops detaining 3 people
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This is not remotely true in America; even if the cops are completely wrong you have no "right" to resist arrest.
Never said that. Never commented on the cops in this thread at all.
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going back and reading your posts in this thread it seems like you are commenting against OP's "assumptions", and doing it in defense of the police.
Yes that was focused on you and your assumption, nothing to do with me "staning" or feeling safe among the police.
You still didn't answer that by the way
That last bit is something you have brought to the party. I'm not defending anyone.
those are some amazing gymnastics. you're quite flexible. but how is your digestive health? Are you regular?
i mean you come in here making multiple posts finding fault with his argument, and asserting that he is making false assumptions against the police. but you're not defending the police.
dunno how that works, but perhaps you're full of it?
i mean you come in here making multiple posts finding fault with his argument, and asserting that he is making false assumptions against the police. but you're not defending the police.
dunno how that works, but perhaps you're full of it?
Not false assumptions, just assumptions because they can't be proved either way. Much to OPs chagrin apparently.
it looks like you are assuming the OP wanted to catch some police wrongdoing, instead of just assuring the safety of those being detained. Since you're so focused on evidence and if someone has the right to question police.
Safety of someone being detained and police wrongdoing are the same thing. If the police were rightdoing there would be no need to assume that the suspects were in danger.
despite you are clearly ignoring (intentionally?) context by applying the "done something" with the things he said he could have done a few lines above that. the "Done something" in this situation is record, inquire the reason or just sit there and be a witness. None of these 3 things is actually interfering once the situation is handled i.e. the 3 people are sitting down, and the cops are relaxed enough to be laughing
tell that to the people killed by the police's right doing
you're defending the police with your forward assumptions again.
you're a pretty mixed up kid.
This is getting stale but I don't know how I'm doing that.
"You're a pretty mixed up kid" - a worthy edit, thank you
And in this situation is it an assumption or not that wrongdoing was taking place? Is it an assumption to think the suspects might be in harm?
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Try to remind me of where I said that the cops did anything wrong or right in this situation. It may be hard because I never did.
Also you have admitted to being a white male, that lives in a bubble, not from the US. Your posts show you have no understanding of the issues with the police system in America.
You lie and try to pretend you are just pointing out grammatical errors and not engaging in the discussion, when in fact you are.
So let me ask you why the fuck are you in this thread?
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Then answer the question I asked, that you quoted and still didn't answer.
Just catching up with this...
You have been paying attention to how the Police handle things with PoC in the US, right?
There's a very good reason why a PoC would feel the way OP felt in this situation.
Why?
We should all be well past giving cops the benefit of the doubt. The profession attracts bullies and there's absolutely nothing that good cops can do to curtail the rampant abuse and corruption.
Because we're having a conversation. Did OP make an assumption about what was happening? I say yes, who says no...
Why should OP do it when you just ignored my question blatantly?
Here, I'll re-post it for you:
Just catching up with this...
You have been paying attention to how the Police handle things with PoC in the US, right?
There's a very good reason why a PoC would feel the way OP felt in this situation.
I'm ignoring your question blatantly because it has nothing to do with whether OP assumed or not and to entertain that question does not go how you'd think.
Thats because your question answers for the OP in the positive. Yes, he did assume because there's a good reason.
the op had a question about the safety of the detained. is that the same as assuming that the officers are committing wrong doing? no it is not.
to have the question, even to assume the need for the question is not the assumption that they are doing wrong. the question is the point, and the focus on assumptions and who can have them is beside the point.
why are you even attempting to have this muddy "conversation" when really its you accusing the OP of unfairly maligning police?
User banned (3 days): antagonizing OP and arguing in bad faith.
It wasn't obvious if we're still here
"We're" still here because you're playing a game for some reason...
OP clearly was fearful for the safety of these people because of the history surrounding police interactions with PoC.
I mean, come on.... what even is this line of questioning?
"Yes they were black" Tells us everything we need to know about OP's (justified) fears here.
So?
Police have a long, long history of over responding to situations where they're not required in that number. All over the world.
They also have a long, long history of violence against PoC.
"So?" should be obvious.
not really. see that body cam footage of the 3 cops casually planning and planting evidence that was blowing up last year
It's normal for there to be way too many cops for any given pedestrian situation. Way too few when you actually want them around.
OP doesn't even know what happened, seems strange to make a thread about the number of police involved
Yeah putting myself into the shoes of a minority seeing that go down I can understand the desire for clarification or even precaution.
I went down a semantic rabbit hole regarding the use of the word assumption which detracted from the point of the thread I guess.
It doesn't seem strange in the slightest given the context of the country and history of violence against PoC committed by their police force, no.
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