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What rating do you think this game will get?

  • 90+

    Votes: 98 12.2%
  • 80+

    Votes: 475 59.2%
  • 70+

    Votes: 99 12.3%
  • 60+

    Votes: 13 1.6%
  • "Garbage like Xenoblade 2"

    Votes: 117 14.6%

  • Total voters
    802
  • Poll closed .

thefro

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Oct 25, 2017
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https://venturebeat.com/2018/07/06/octopath-traveler-hands-on-the-march-of-endless-beginnings/

Venturebeat is a little more negative but it sounds like they've only played a few hours (only have 6 of the 8 characters so far)

Venturebeat said:
Typical stories have a three act structure. You know — beginning, middle, and the end. The first 10 hours or so of Octopath Traveler is like a parade of only first acts. Just as you become invested in one story, you suddenly jump to another. Like I said, I'm eight hours in, and I've only recruited six of the eight heroes.

And these stories, at least in these first chapters, never mingle. Since any character can be your first, each one has to proceed as if it's a solo adventure. So, if you go up to a new character and you already have a party of three adventurers, your previous heroes will show up in battles, but they have no impact on the story.

So far, this feels disjointed. The weirdest example came when I was recruiting a thief. His introduction story included a bit where he rejected others who wanted to join him on his latest job, saying he works alone. But then he accepts the help of my party. Keep in mind that this is a party that includes a priestess, a scholar, and an honorable hunter. These three suddenly decide to help a thief steal something for pure profit.
 

Disclaimer

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Oct 25, 2017
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Honestly it sounds pretty bad from listening to the GameXplain vid. No interactions between characters, no plot involving them all etc. Gameplay doesnt evolve. Least i'll have the amazing OST.

He hadn't even unlocked the secondary job system, per his footage, so I'm unsure why you're concluding gameplay doesn't evolve. There's an enormous degree of customizability.
 

Shepherd

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Oct 25, 2017
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Damn, hype deflatedt. I thought that after you recruit all 8 it would work as a normal RPG, with party interaction and a common story. Too bad it looks like this isnt the case. The fact that you have absolutely 0 reason to team up with your allies in the demo ehen you meet them shouldve been a red flag.
 

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Wow. Crazy how this game first seemed like a neat little project and now people are talking as if it might end up being an all time classic.

Only thing stopping me from being there day 1 is I already have a handful of longer games I want to get through. Not really sure when I'll ever have time to get to this. Games keep getting longer and I keep having less and less free time!
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Yes, it's especially weird because when you're doing a chapter for a given character, only that character shows up in all the cut-scenes, making it feel like they're traveling solo. The other characters only show up in battle and then in those optional one-on-one banter scenes.
Seriously i do not want to engage in this "Not a $60 game" discussion but this just feels so cheap. The game looks gorgeous, sounds amazing, has some interesting ideas, but it doesnt look like theyve bothered to bring it all together.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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The lack of interaction other than conversation scenes between chapters does sound disappointing, but I don't believe there is no overarching story covering all the eight characters.
 

jschreier

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Oct 25, 2017
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Look, as one of the biggest FFVI fans on the planet, let me just say that from what I've played so far I'd advise relaxing with the "all time classic" stuff. At least wait for proper reviews -- ones from people who don't worship at the altar of hyperbole. It's not that this is a bad game, but the repetitive structure and lack of party interaction are no small thing.
 

Minsc

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Oct 28, 2017
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So crazy how one post is someone saying they are being turned off from the game now, and the next post is someone saying how it sounds like it'll be up there with all the classic games from the past.

I also think you can't take Venturebeat's criticism about party ethics very far, it's not the kinda game that is going to be pushing realism and morals - clearly indicated by the systems involved for negating your reputation etc. There's probably a handful of games if that which manage to get the penalties for stealing from NPCs right (basically death) and mix in unethical characters with good ones in a believable manner - where the unethical ones can continue being unethical (basically this requires the game to have the characters split apart and drop from the party - or fight to the death).
 

Saint-14

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Nov 2, 2017
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Definitely can't wait for the reviews, this will either be a mess or something great, hopefully it's the latter.
Seriously i do not want to engage in this "Not a $60 game" discussion but this just feels so cheap. The game looks gorgeous, sounds amazing, has some interesting ideas, but it doesnt look like theyve bothered to bring it all together.
Eh, I don't see how they are related, that's a design choice.
 

Plum

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May 31, 2018
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Look, as one of the biggest FFVI fans on the planet, let me just say that from what I've played so far I'd advise relaxing with the "all time classic" stuff. At least wait for proper reviews -- ones from people who don't worship at the altar of hyperbole. It's not that this is a bad game, but the repetitive structure and lack of party interaction are no small thing.

Damn. Expecting a lot less now, but I've already paid off most of my preorder so it's not enough to cancel. These reviews are going to be very... interesting, though, I can tell already.
 

DNAbro

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Oct 25, 2017
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Look, as one of the biggest FFVI fans on the planet, let me just say that from what I've played so far I'd advise relaxing with the "all time classic" stuff. At least wait for proper reviews -- ones from people who don't worship at the altar of hyperbole. It's not that this is a bad game, but the repetitive structure and lack of party interaction are no small thing.

Are you expecting it to change as you progress? Like has there been any hints of a full overarching story?
 

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https://venturebeat.com/2018/07/06/octopath-traveler-hands-on-the-march-of-endless-beginnings/

Venturebeat is a little more negative but it sounds like they've only played a few hours (only have 6 of the 8 characters so far)

wait a sec, developers said that you can decide to do all 8 stories in one run or focus on few characters instead.

So if the reviewer decided to have them all, he/she should have expected that parade.

Brace yourself for a bunch annoying reviewers like in Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

"I skipped entirely the tutorial pretending to know everything already... This game is too complicated!!"
 

Minsc

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Oct 28, 2017
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Look, as one of the biggest FFVI fans on the planet, let me just say that from what I've played so far I'd advise relaxing with the "all time classic" stuff. At least wait for proper reviews -- ones from people who don't worship at the altar of hyperbole. It's not that this is a bad game, but the repetitive structure and lack of party interaction are no small thing.

So what games released in the past few years have done the FFVI/old-school JRPG throwback better than this? I'm sure you have some in mind, perhaps even BD? Though that would require bending it to more than just a few years. I'm not looking to discredit your or anything, I'm actually wondering if I've missed any other games similar to this - seeing as I'm really looking forward to this and if I do end up being disappointed, perhaps there's a few other games to give a shot to.
 

Starphanluke

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Nov 15, 2017
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Look, as one of the biggest FFVI fans on the planet, let me just say that from what I've played so far I'd advise relaxing with the "all time classic" stuff. At least wait for proper reviews -- ones from people who don't worship at the altar of hyperbole. It's not that this is a bad game, but the repetitive structure and lack of party interaction are no small thing.

I definitely think it's important not to get carried away with hyperbole, but also think it's important to note most of these previews are from just the first 2 chapters of the game. I'm optimistic those issues will be resolved later in the game- at the very least, I expect there will be some sort of larger story to lead to more character interaction.
 

jschreier

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Oct 25, 2017
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wait a sec, developers said that you can decide to do stories for all 8 characters in one run or not and focus on few characters instead.

So if the reviewer decided to have them all, he/she should have expected that parade.
The reason to go around and do all eight characters is because the Chapter 2 level recommendations are in the 20s while you'll be around level 10-12 after getting four. So you can either grind for levels or you can go do all eight Chapter 1s.
 

ASarafanov

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Oct 31, 2017
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Look, as one of the biggest FFVI fans on the planet, let me just say that from what I've played so far I'd advise relaxing with the "all time classic" stuff. At least wait for proper reviews -- ones from people who don't worship at the altar of hyperbole. It's not that this is a bad game, but the repetitive structure and lack of party interaction are no small thing.
Kotaku trashed Xenoblade 2, and yet the game was amazing. So...
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The reason to go around and do all eight characters is because the Chapter 2 level recommendations are in the 20s while you'll be around level 10-12 after getting four. So you can either grind for levels or you can go do all eight Chapter 1s.

Do you feel like you need to grind, or can the gap be covered by clever usage of the Path Actions? Stealing stuff that has 10-20% odds and recruiting 4-star NPCs felt like it was good for the level 20 areas in the demo, but maybe that is too narrow to consistently survive fights.
 

rando

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Oct 25, 2017
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Any more new info on how much the characters actually interact with each other? There was basically none in the demo which was disappointing
 

Tebunker

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have all the characters and am about 20 hours in, and there's no over-arching story (yet?). It's eight different stories. The characters only interact via one-on-one optional "banter" scenes, sort of like a Tales game.
this excites me and makes me nervous. If they can bring it all together and wrap all 8 stories up it will be awesome
 

SolidChamp

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Oct 27, 2017
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Look, as one of the biggest FFVI fans on the planet, let me just say that from what I've played so far I'd advise relaxing with the "all time classic" stuff. At least wait for proper reviews -- ones from people who don't worship at the altar of hyperbole. It's not that this is a bad game, but the repetitive structure and lack of party interaction are no small thing.

Okay. This is the only quote I care to pay attention to now. Sane and rational.
 

SheriffMcDuck

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Oct 27, 2017
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My fears are becoming true. Waiting for reviews for more late game information, but if the party never comes together in a story sense and has very little interaction it's not the game for me.

I hope I'm wrong; I've been so excited since this games reveal.
 

BlueManifest

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Oct 25, 2017
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Look, as one of the biggest FFVI fans on the planet, let me just say that from what I've played so far I'd advise relaxing with the "all time classic" stuff. At least wait for proper reviews -- ones from people who don't worship at the altar of hyperbole. It's not that this is a bad game, but the repetitive structure and lack of party interaction are no small thing.
Do you like it more than xenoblade 2?
 

Łazy

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Nov 1, 2017
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Are they discovering the saga series ? : P
I can't wait for the Scarlet Grace previews ha ha.

I'm kinda hyped for Octopath though.
I dont' think I can (re) finish Ys on time, so I'll have find a way...
 

cw_sasuke

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Oct 27, 2017
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Weird to see people complaining about no overarching story or much interaction when they just reached chapter 2 and are the beginning of the game.

Playing all origin Storys first means you get to know the characters and their ambitions ...after that there is still plenty of time for more interaction between them. Looking forward to the reviews next week.
 

Phonzo

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Oct 26, 2017
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I do think there will be an overaching story to all the characters, but for non hardcore jrpg fans, that may mean going 20+ hours until that starts to happen. If that matters to them, not sure they can finish it.
 

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I haven't really played it enough to get a good impression (I will one day), but I'm not sure what that game has to do with Octopath.
Just that Jason hates that one too lol, and general reception disagrees with him on that.
I'm not saying that invalidates his opinion or anything, to be clear. I'm saying that if you disagreed with him on that, you may disagree with him on this, too.
 

Minsc

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Oct 28, 2017
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Weird to see people complaining about no overarching story or much interaction when they just reached chapter 2 and are the beginning of the game.

Playing all origin Storys first means you get to know the characters and their ambitions ...after that there is still plenty of time for more interaction between them. Looking forward to the reviews next week.

I get the impression people are saying there are no connecting stories between the characters for the entire game, and there is no plot in the entire game beyond just the individual stories either.
 

Phonzo

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Oct 26, 2017
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Are they discovering the saga series ? : P
I can't wait for the Scarlet Grace previews ha ha.

I'm kinda hyped for Octopath though.
I dont' think I can (re) finish Ys on time, so I'll have find a way...
Holy shit, you probably arent talking about Ys Origin, but thats what im trying to finish before next Friday rolls around.
 

Saint-14

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Nov 2, 2017
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Weird to see people complaining about no overarching story or much interaction when they just reached chapter 2 and are the beginning of the game.

Playing all origin Storys first means you get to know the characters and their ambitions ...after that there is still plenty of time for more interaction between them. Looking forward to the reviews next week.
So people have to go through 20 hours just to get some party interaction?
 
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Meelow

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Oct 31, 2017
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Yes, Xenoblade 2 is garbage. I like Octopath from what I've played so far - it's just not striking me as an all-time classic or much like FFVI in any way. It's more like a new SaGa game.

I appreicate your opinion but I am loving Xenoblade 2 so I have a good feeling I will love this to, but hey that's what makes games. Not everyone loves the same game, doesn't mean it's the end of the world.
 

Bunkles

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Jason's like or dislike of Xenoblade 2 has nothing to do with this specific complaints on Octopath. It feels like a very defensive tactic to outright dismiss his critiques because he didn't like a game you liked. There is a lot to not like about Xenoblade 2 btw.