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You know, reading the comments on youtube, and reading the posts here, really highlights the difference of mindsets between the two sides.
I am more solidified in my belief than ever because of it.
 

Azerare

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Wow saw the video on Twitter and those kids handled it really calmly. Good that they found the guy
 

saenima

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If you want to actually address my points please do. Reiterating does nothing.

You have no points to address. You whole stance consists of 'let nazis spread their propaganda because slippery slope'. You know what's the counterpoint to your stance? 'don't let nazis spread their propaganda because slippery slope'. Guess which slippery slope led to the holocaust.
 

BDS

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You have no points to address. You whole stance consists of 'let nazis spread their propaganda because slippery slope'. You know what's the counterpoint to your stance? 'don't let nazis spread their propaganda because slippery slope'. Guess which slippery slope led to the holocaust.

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With that being said, I recommend not engaging with the "usual suspects" who always show up in these threads caping for Nazis and fascists. They can't be reasoned with. As I said a few pages back, those of us who are willing to fight can and will continue to do so on behalf of those who lack the spine.
 

ctj

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Some of the people on here are acting like the MAGA idiot got the shit beat out of him or something. He had a fucking soda poured on him.
 

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I would call that a valuable life lesson.

Be careful of what you say, don't be racist, respect other people. It's not glamorous but hopefully those teens got a shock and will learn from this but I suspect there is a chance that all the sympathy they are receiving might make them naive.
 

Lwyn

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Is there any proof that the confrontation started because of the 16 year old sprouting out racial hatred? Because if so, the 16 year old fellow is lucky that it was just the his hat taken.
 

Hydrus

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I would call that a valuable life lesson.

Be careful of what you say, don't be racist, respect other people. It's not glamorous but hopefully those teens got a shock and will learn from this but I suspect there is a chance that all the sympathy they are receiving might make them naive.

Eh, I think both side can learn. I'm just following this story now and just read that the guy got arrested, lost his job, tried to delete his social media and people found cached versions of them, got publicly kicked out of his political party, and is getting his name and face plastered everywhere.

I mean damn, he's gonna be a target for a while. I'm all for standing up for your beliefs, but just do it in a way that won't ruin your life.
 

Skelepuzzle

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Eh, I think both side can learn. I'm just following this story now and just read that the guy got arrested, lost his job, tried to delete his social media and people found cached versions of them, got publicly kicked out of his political party, and is getting his name and face plastered everywhere.

I mean damn, he's gonna be a target for a while. I'm all for standing up for your beliefs, but just do it in a way that won't ruin your life.

By saying that "both sides can learn" are you saying that one side needs to learn how to mitigate the legal consequences from disputing the other, which was a hate group? I honestly don't get this. They chose to stand up to it and knew it would have consequences.
 

Lwyn

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Absolutely disgusting. I can't believe people here advocate and encourage violence against others because of their political views. It shows how much screwed up you are.

Lol, no it doesn't. A growing subset of Trump supporters are a different breed of republicans, the ones that are willing to put out the gun on a minority because they feel entitled. I can't blame minority or white people for being fed up and seeking justice.
 

Hydrus

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By saying that "both sides can learn" are you saying that one side needs to learn how to mitigate the legal consequences from disputing the other, which was a hate group? I honestly don't get this. They chose to stand up to it and knew it would have consequences.
I'm saying the guy could've got his point across without ruining his life.
 

Buzzman

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I bet you think it's a smart to make this false equivalency.
Still waiting for a response dude. They're both misogynistic, homophobic, theocratic, murderous groups that are looking to kill off "undesirables" and create a totalitarian ethnostate. Just because their religions have different names does not mean they aren't made out of the exact same mold.
A guy waving an ISIS flag VS a guy waving a Nazi flag.
Same scum, different name.
 

NoRéN

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With that being said, I recommend not engaging with the "usual suspects" who always show up in these threads caping for Nazis and fascists. They can't be reasoned with. As I said a few pages back, those of us who are willing to fight can and will continue to do so on behalf of those who lack the spine.
I do it to point out the failure of the mods to use reason.
 

Skelepuzzle

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I'm saying the guy could've got his point across without ruining his life.

He believed that standing up to white supremacy was worth it. It is up to the rest of us to prove him to be right.

Ruining his life? Let's see how the MAGA child internment camp supporters are treated in 20 years. We will have to resist this.
 

Jexhius

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This is bizarre on a few levels:

- Why would you need to involve the police in something so trivial
- Describing this as an 'attack' is some absolutely twisted language (as would be the use of the world 'assault')

Sounds like a police state enforcing the status quo. Another way to enforce the status quo is to support racist people wearing symbols of hate and oppression.
 

NightMarcher

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You have no points to address. You whole stance consists of 'let nazis spread their propaganda because slippery slope'. You know what's the counterpoint to your stance? 'don't let nazis spread their propaganda because slippery slope'. Guess which slippery slope led to the holocaust.
Sure.

I've said my peace enough. Just to say in parting:

I get the impression many seem to hate this country.....well I'm not one of them. I hate Trump, this administration, racism, white supremacy, the lot of it. But this country's worth fighting for and there's a lot of decent people here. I'm sure I'm not viewed as one of them because, Heaven forbid, I believe in protecting a higher principle that's at the core of what makes America great rather than wishing to take a shit on it because of the vile views of what some human filth embrace. Don't make these people worth it.

There are other places to live if you and others here don't care for freedom of expression and assembly, or only selectively so. It just strikes me as odd that you and others here embrace and enjoy freedoms until they fail to serve your own interests. Then you suddenly want them curtailed.

It's just unfortunate that you can't recognize that that will ultimately work against your best interests as much as it will for them.
 

Leek

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An article I found showed a mugshot of Kino Jimenez from a 2017 arrest as his newest one wasn't available. Has it been revealed what that arrest was for, or is there a way to find out?
 

EDebs1916

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An article I found showed a mugshot of Kino Jimenez from a 2017 arrest as his newest one wasn't available. Has it been revealed what that arrest was for, or is there a way to find out?

People with anime avatars always just asking questions.
 

Absent

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The TV station reports the witness was eating with his family at the Whataburger and says the three teens involved in the video mention the film "The Purge", wishing it was real, but only against African-Americans and Latinos.

He also said the teens were joking about 'hanging blacks' and killing off minorities.

"They said they wanted it to be legal for white people to kill any other race for the Fourth of July," the witness told KENS.
He said another man in the restaurant asked the teens to stop making such comments.

The witness said he and his family cut their dinner short after that before things escalated.
Yeah, that doesn't sound like something a kid with a MAGA cap would say.

/s
 

Hydrus

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He believed that standing up to white supremacy was worth it. It is up to the rest of us to prove him to be right.

Ruining his life? Let's see how the MAGA child internment camp supporters are treated in 20 years. We will have to resist this.

He stood up to white supremacy by calling the teen a "nigga" . Like I said, there were better ways to handle the situation without it back firing on him. I don't care about the soda throw or hat grab.
 

saenima

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Sure.

I've said my peace enough. Just to say in parting:

I get the impression many seem to hate this country.....well I'm not one of them. I hate Trump, this administration, racism, white supremacy, the lot of it. But this country's worth fighting for and there's a lot of decent people here. I'm sure I'm not viewed as one of them because, Heaven forbid, I believe in protecting a higher principle that's at the core of what makes America great rather than wishing to take a shit on it because of the vile views of what some human filth embrace. Don't make these people worth it.

There are other places to live if you and others here don't care for freedom of expression and assembly, or only selectively so. It just strikes me as odd that you and others here embrace and enjoy freedoms until they fail to serve your own interests. Then you suddenly want them curtailed.

It's just unfortunate that you can't recognize that that will ultimately work against your best interests as much as it will for them.

Fortunately, i live in Europe. Where hate speech laws do exist. And contrary to your belief, they work pretty damn well.

And freedom of speech cannot be absolute. Otherwise, it becomes the freedom to exterminate through strength.

Where should I go, as a Comanche man? Even if in your dire scenario that I were to hate the United States,

If you are a racist: Get the fuck out of my land.

This is the extra layer that gets to me. These motherfuckers always conveniently forget that they are the immigrants in a land they stole through genocide.
 

Tagyhag

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Reminder that there are even people in Era that think the alt-right love minorities and don't have any Nazis within their ranks.
 

Skelepuzzle

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He stood up to white supremacy by calling the teen a "nigga" . Like I said, there were better ways to handle the situation without it back firing on him. I don't care about the soda throw or hat grab.

I'm not going to tell a black* person how to use racial verbiage that pertains to them. You do whatever you want.

*person of color, perhaps I got it wrong

Apparently this is his mug shot:

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People with anime avatars always just asking questions.
Compare that with them making a dozen posts to defend why a white supremacist who has committed hate crimes shouldn't face justice because the damage is done and it wont change anything. Suddenly a soda is thrown at one of them and here Shadio is combing the web for dirt on the attacker. I hope that filth is gone from this forum when I wake up tomorrow.
 

Kayla

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The only victim here is Kino Jimenez. Guy got arrested for defending himself.
 

Kyra

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Enemies should be treated as such. If you change now we wont have to escalate to more drastic measures. Yes this is a threat.
 

saenima

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Man i love Era, but sometimes i'm sincerely fucking baffled by some of the decisions. Comparing gay people to nazis, a-ok. But don't shame the anime underage girl 'just asking questions'.

Heh
 
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