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4gamer Octopath Traveler review
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Compare the price of Octopath to the price of Super Mario Odyssey for example, it is the same.
In France for example, games are usually cheaper because supermarkets are selling videogames without making any margins. Thus, you can find games at a lower price because of this competition. In dedicated shops (Micromania, indie shops), games are 60€ tho because they need those full margins to survive.
Maybe it's just a semantics thing, but I feel there's a notable difference between "I don't plan on paying $60 for this from what I've seen" and "this thing never should have been priced at $60 to begin with." It seems to me like a lot of the down-talk of the game, in this and other threads, shades more toward the latter, and that's what people are taking issue with.
If you're not interested in the game, fine! If you want to wait for a sale, fine! That's your opinion and personal budget choices playing into things. But trying to pretend that this isn't a full-scale retail RPG in the vein of a long history of classic meaty retail RPGs is just factually incorrect, and yet that attempt is made so very often and with very little to back it up beyond the assumption of pixel graphics making it cheaper or easier to produce. I just don't understand coming at it from that direction.
If you're not interested in the game, fine! If you want to wait for a sale, fine! That's your opinion and personal budget choices playing into things. But trying to pretend that this isn't a full-scale retail RPG in the vein of a long history of classic meaty retail RPGs is just factually incorrect, and yet that attempt is made so very often and with very little to back it up beyond the assumption of pixel graphics making it cheaper or easier to produce. I just don't understand coming at it from that direction.
Pretty much. I got Octopath Traveller from FNAC for 46 euros with a 10 euros voucher for future purchases.
Good for you. Nothing about Octopath says "premium" to me though.
At least nothing I encountered in the demo.
Saying that this does not have the look of a current 60$ product is not far fetched:
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At least TO ME.
You should get someone to check your attic for any Jackson Pollocks knocking around.. Not you mind given your.. errr .. "meat and potatoes" view on artistic merit.
I'm playing wit ya :)
User Banned (1 Day): Trolling + Driving derailment over game pricing
Looking for a funny cherry picking gif. I´ll get back to you when I find one ;)
While you're at it let us know about these other games with similar art style that did it better.
Interesting. Thank you for the clarification. I'm quite unaware of prices as I buy all my Switch games through the US e-shop while being in Europe because the swiss e-shop is absolutely ridiculous with its prices.
Entire regions of the game are cherry-picking now because they contradict your ugliness claim. Oof.
That's true. The argument of whether or not Octopath Traveler is worth $60 has no place in this thread, so we both are.
You can beat Detroit in 15 hours. Perhaps for me that game is not worth $60. Maybe I'll wait until it hits $30.
But you know what I won't do? Go to the Detroit thread where people are enjoying talking about the game (and not currently discussing price) and announce that I don't think it's worth $60.
Because it's rude.
But you know what I won't do? Go to the Detroit thread where people are enjoying talking about the game (and not currently discussing price) and announce that I don't think it's worth $60.
Because it's rude.
You not gonna find nothing. What they posted is what the game look like
Just browse through the Voxel category on steam.
BTW, Imagine Octopath looking something like this:
That´s an Art Style I could get excited about.
EDIT: That is also nice:
If you see a post that you feel is objectionable, report it. The mods typically respond to reports rather than scan every thread individually.
I find it funny that you call out for "cherry picking" from the gif thread, when a page or two ago you picked out a single battle screenshot and propped it up as the evidence of why the game isn't worth $60 to you. I guess art really is subjective after all!
The difference for him is that his view is objective, and he's set on pushing it regardless of how much sense it makes not to.
From that same thread.
Is it okay to say that this look muddy and boring and blurry? And I'm not talking about the depth of field here. Textures and sprites are blurry too.
Is it okay to say that early Saturn / Psone RPG like Grandia looked miles better than this.
Again, not to pile on that stupid discussion about price relative to the artstyle, but people can NOT like this kind of render.
I did a quick photoshop. I still hate these effects but eh, I like this artstyle better
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It looks okay but I like others were sadden that 2D Pixel art went one of two ways, either hand drawn sprites or back to 8-bit/16 bit inspired art. This game I think is an evolution of 2D art. That is just 3D pixel, which isn't the same thing and looks okay but I don't think it would've suited Octopath. The boss sprites for Octopath look amazing, these people understood what made FFVI and other SNES RPGs amazing and expanded on it.Just browse through the Voxel category on steam.
BTW, Imagine Octopath looking something like this:
That´s an Art Style I could get excited about.
I don't feel like these opinions are drive-bys and hot-takes. These posters have fair opinions, if you don't want to see them defend those opinions stop answering them. People usually don't come back with the same criticism if they are ignored
I like what they were going for I guess, but I don´t think it really came together.
I´d be very interested to see what it looks like without all this post processing.
I mean, the screenshot doens't tell antyhing beyon the visuals that indeed look nice.Good for you. Nothing about Octopath says "premium" to me though.
At least nothing I encountered in the demo.
Saying that this does not have the look of a current 60$ product is not far fetched:
At least TO ME.
There is also the voice acting, the writing, the amount of content, the music, etc... and all of those are several levels above most retro attempt JPRG that go for that classic look but almost always seem to falter in one aspect (or several in the case of Tokyo RPG Factory efforts)
EDIT: Oh, you got a Day 1 ban, asldkaslkd
OMG NOJust browse through the Voxel category on steam.
BTW, Imagine Octopath looking something like this:
That´s an Art Style I could get excited about.
EDIT: That is also nice:
NO
I don't like this style ( i don't like the look of 3d dot heroes ) and this overcubic presentation doesn't have even half of the quality animation octopath has.
Anyway , your exemple doesn't make octopath ugly , you just don't like it
You're right it is fine. Its an opinion after allFrom that same thread.
Is it okay to say that this look muddy and boring and blurry? And I'm not talking about the depth of field here. Textures and sprites are blurry too.
Is it okay to say that early Saturn / Psone RPG like Grandia looked miles better than this.
Again, not to pile on that stupid discussion about price relative to the artstyle, but people can NOT like this kind of render.
Yep, you can! Playing normally, each 3hr save should allow you to see ~3 characters' prologues. After you finish your first, you're free to travel to any others' towns, recruit them, and play their prologues.
Do you understand how litte sense that makes? What about this made you think it'll be $20?
edit: Oh, he got a 1 day ban. nevermind.
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I mean... I wouldn't say ugly, I think there's a time and place for voxels. Like say... 3D Dot Game Heroes, though Im not even sure fi thats "voxel" or just based on the style. It sure as fuck doesn't work in a game trying to evoke FF6 and other RPGs of the era.
To each their own. I prefer Octopath's style by a mileFrom that same thread.
Is it okay to say that this look muddy and boring and blurry? And I'm not talking about the depth of field here. Textures and sprites are blurry too.
Is it okay to say that early Saturn / Psone RPG like Grandia looked miles better than this.
Again, not to pile on that stupid discussion about price relative to the artstyle, but people can NOT like this kind of render.
I did a quick photoshop. I still hate these effects but eh, I like this artstyle better
Thursday next week. Seems like every first party Nintendo game embargo has been lifting the day before launch.
From what I understand: preview embargo lifts tomorrow, review embargo next Thursday.
Just wanted to chime on saying that this doesn't look good at all.Just browse through the Voxel category on steam.
BTW, Imagine Octopath looking something like this:
That´s an Art Style I could get excited about.
EDIT: That is also nice:
There's a very good reason why 3D Zelda never looked like that.
I don't like at all this style. I never liked how 3Dot heroes looks, and Octopath's looks better IMO.Just browse through the Voxel category on steam.
BTW, Imagine Octopath looking something like this:
That´s an Art Style I could get excited about.
EDIT: That is also nice:
I played the Prologue demo a few hours ago, and besides the blurry menus and some flickering, the game looks amazing.
Just browse through the Voxel category on steam.
BTW, Imagine Octopath looking something like this:
That´s an Art Style I could get excited about.
EDIT: That is also nice:
I don't want to. That looks so much worse
Considering this looks like a 3DS tier JRPG ala Bravely Default, it absolutely should have been $40. But since the Switch userbase is ravenous, they'll eat up anything. Admittedly, Im part of the problem as Im picking up Octopath day 1 but only through a tradein promo from EB.
It seems the Switch is only a hybrid when it comes to hardware performance, not retail game pricing.
It seems the Switch is only a hybrid when it comes to hardware performance, not retail game pricing.
How do some of you post such embarrassing shit and not expect to be called out on it?
A little less embarassing than stanning for billion dollar corporations for free, I imagine.
From that same thread.
Is it okay to say that this look muddy and boring and blurry? And I'm not talking about the depth of field here. Textures and sprites are blurry too.
Is it okay to say that early Saturn / Psone RPG like Grandia looked miles better than this.
Again, not to pile on that stupid discussion about price relative to the artstyle, but people can NOT like this kind of render.
I did a quick photoshop. I still hate these effects but eh, I like this artstyle better
The blurryness of the sprites seems intentional to make them look/feel more natural in the context of the surrounding world. I think if they had real sharp pixels they would kind of stick out strangely. Thats just my hunch, and probably why the art decision was made. Its an easy thing to complain about but really I think its the right decision. Plus the sprites are actually dynamically lit so the "muddy-ness" in your example is actually a result of the surrounding area's lighting - some of the other scenes/areas give the sprites more favorable shades (like the winter scene in the gif a few posts above)
What you seem to want is high saturated colors and super sharp pixels, which doesn't work with dynamically lit and rendered sprite assets that this game is built to render.