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Do you want a Defenders Season 2?
- Thread starter NTGYK
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A lot of people didn't appreciate what kind of show Jessica Jones season 2 was trying to be.
I didn't watch two of these, but I don't understand people here praising Jessica S2. It was bad. I'd rather watch Defenders S1 again over that.
I'm only half way through Luke Cage season 2 but it and JJ season 2 have almost reached the heights of DD season 1. I didn't think Defenders was bad, it was just a damp squib of a show when the hope was for an Avengers style team up.
I've officially checked out of every MCU TV Series at this point. Daredevil and Jessica Jones season 1 had fantastic antagonists (in contrast to the MCU movies at the time). Everything else that's followed has been forgettable at best, particularly anything involving The Hand. They got the casting right (mostly), the writing is what's letting them down.
So I can't say I'm excited for a new season of Defenders.
So I can't say I'm excited for a new season of Defenders.
No. I had trouble finishing it. These Netflix / Marvel shows need a shake up. There is some good in each series ( except Iron Fist ) but they are mostly bad.
Yes and they'll give it. To me the real issue behind the Hand and Iron Fist was a failure to embrace the goofy. They wanted so hard to make a more realistic version of Iron Fist that they totally ruined his character and they did the same to the Hand.
DD1&2 set up lots of plot elements for the Hand, most of which end dropped by Iron Fist & Defenders. Reasons I have no idea as to why. Iron Fist mentions Kun Lun so often that it get's cringey. If you are going to add a character with literal magic, then go balls to the wall. Set half the series in Kun Lun & half of it in present day. Actually give us a reason to be invested in this bull shit and why the Hand are so dangerous. Also just make the Hand fucking ninjas. In Defenders it's comical. They've all become fucking Johnny Business types and it makes no sense. Why pull the ninja crap in DD1&2, just to make them all non descript henchmen?
There are lots of other reasons both series didn't work, but the failure to embrace the goofiness of the characters was in my mind, a real cause behind the show sucking.
DD1&2 set up lots of plot elements for the Hand, most of which end dropped by Iron Fist & Defenders. Reasons I have no idea as to why. Iron Fist mentions Kun Lun so often that it get's cringey. If you are going to add a character with literal magic, then go balls to the wall. Set half the series in Kun Lun & half of it in present day. Actually give us a reason to be invested in this bull shit and why the Hand are so dangerous. Also just make the Hand fucking ninjas. In Defenders it's comical. They've all become fucking Johnny Business types and it makes no sense. Why pull the ninja crap in DD1&2, just to make them all non descript henchmen?
There are lots of other reasons both series didn't work, but the failure to embrace the goofiness of the characters was in my mind, a real cause behind the show sucking.
Yes, I would like it.
But I would rather use that budget to get back Kilgrave for a complete season of JJ and keep improving Daredevil's following seasons.
But I would rather use that budget to get back Kilgrave for a complete season of JJ and keep improving Daredevil's following seasons.
Still haven't watched S1. Not much interest either. Daredevil and The Punisher are the only good marvel shows. The rest alternates between eh and mediocre, so putting all that together is not interesting
I mean yeah if you wanna miss out on like, the only Marvel production with some legitimate old school action sure
I loved the Defenders, Jessica Jones in her only tolerable role (imo) I enjoyed the chemistry of the team.
See unlike most here, I love the hand and the ninjas and all that mystical shit. But to have the whole thing being run by Sigourney Weaver was......weird....someone that had presence like Nobu should have been the big bad. I can't just take Ripley being in charge of this secret organization seriously.
I like the idea of the black sky but I feel like it would be a lot more effective if it was a child like hinted at in DD1.
See unlike most here, I love the hand and the ninjas and all that mystical shit. But to have the whole thing being run by Sigourney Weaver was......weird....someone that had presence like Nobu should have been the big bad. I can't just take Ripley being in charge of this secret organization seriously.
I like the idea of the black sky but I feel like it would be a lot more effective if it was a child like hinted at in DD1.
Sure, a chance to do it better. I liked seeing all those characters together, is just that basing everything on Iron Fist was a mistake.
Honestly I think they should wrap up this chapter. The netflix stuff was conceived when Marvel was still kinda of playing it safe. They gotten better but still kinda scared to go in. Cloak and Dagger kinda of what should come next
Nah plenty other action stuff out there
Maybe give it the 13 episodes they give to every other season so it doesn't feel totally rushed.
And hire people who can actually shoot action in an engaging way.
And hire people who can actually shoot action in an engaging way.
They spent so much of The Defenders refusing to even make them a team. I'd like another season, but with more team ups and shared scenes. They could also use a couple of new additions to spice up the chemistry. Still such a shame that there is almost zero chemistry between Luke and Jessica.
Jessica Jones exist, S1 in particular is like the most acclaimed outside of Daredevil S1 lol
Nah
Well Jessica Jones didn't make me stick around in season one so i didn't try season two. I won't tell anyone who liked it that they shouldn't. It's also cool if you liked cage. It was terrible to me.
There was some good chemistry, but it was uncut by bad writing throughout and some weird choices for the action (the hallway fight is cool, the pow-wow in the restaurant is good, but everything revolving around the ending, from Danny reverting to a dumbass solely to progress the plot to Matt's dumb sacrifice.)
Having the Hand on the ropes was a really odd choice considering that DD stood up to them at their height and with everyone there it should be a cakewalk.
I've found JJ and LC continuing to suffer from having to fill 13 episodes, but I at least given them some props for ending up in interesting places. Iron Fist wasn't great, but it was nowhere the dumpster fire people like to exaggerate it to. I guess I think together everyone has far more of a chance of being interesting than apart (plus, Defenders didn't suffer from the pacing issues since it was shorter.)
Having the Hand on the ropes was a really odd choice considering that DD stood up to them at their height and with everyone there it should be a cakewalk.
I've found JJ and LC continuing to suffer from having to fill 13 episodes, but I at least given them some props for ending up in interesting places. Iron Fist wasn't great, but it was nowhere the dumpster fire people like to exaggerate it to. I guess I think together everyone has far more of a chance of being interesting than apart (plus, Defenders didn't suffer from the pacing issues since it was shorter.)
We had to wait like 4 episodes for them to officially team up lol
I want a second season, and a longer season than the first. I'm not sure how I feel about The Punisher being "on the team" though; his methods don't jive with everyone else's. I do agree with the "Combine Luke Cage and Iron Fist in HfH" line of thinking as well.
The 1-2 combo they pulled with Iron Fist and Defenders put me out of watching any Marvel Netflix series, I love JJ but I couldn't even finish the 2nd episode of the 2nd season just because I couldn't think of anything else that it would eventually turn to shit like those 2 series.
Model it after the comic. Give them a fearsome villain: the Kingpin.
Also, include Black Cat.
Deadpool optional.
Also, include Black Cat.
Deadpool optional.
I thought the first season of Defenders was pretty bad. As others have said, I would prefer if the characters just popped up in each other's shows.
Yeah, but I think there was enough going on that I never felt like I was being unnecessarily delayed. Everyone has to figure out what's going on independently and come together.
They made a point that everyone involved has strong personalities, and they played them well (Danny being all righteous gung-ho about teaming up while everyone else was iffy was a nice touch.)
There's still some weird structural issues I had with it (the decision to kill off Sigourney Weaver so early, for instance, I don't think worked) but I don't think pacing was one.
In comparison, Luke Cage S2 added a lot of what I thought felt like wheel-spinning and weird retrogressions in characters because they had the ending they wanted but wanted to take a meandering path towards it. Like what feels like it should be the climactic fight between the main villains happens halfway through, and then there's there a series of developments that are reversed immediately, sometimes in the same episode, because they have to keep things going (I beat the bad guy! But now he escaped!)
Even the Danny-Luke teamup that I think was one of the highlights of the season because the characters together are great still feels like a weird spinoff that shouldn't be in the back half of the show.
