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Zenimax Online is in pre-production on a new AAA game, new engine, new IP
- Thread starter Theorry
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huh interesting. New IP is indeed intriguing. Wonder how long they've been in pre-production.
One can only hope that Game Pass might rein in some of the monetization excesses that ESO has experienced at times. But in general, people have good things to say about ESO. So, interested in what comes out of this. When they say "new engine" I wonder if they're creating something new from scratch. That does speak to some ambition, I feel. Kinda surprised they didn't use an established engine with a lot of internal support like Unreal. But, maybe this is smarter for an in-house long tail live service game.
One can only hope that Game Pass might rein in some of the monetization excesses that ESO has experienced at times. But in general, people have good things to say about ESO. So, interested in what comes out of this. When they say "new engine" I wonder if they're creating something new from scratch. That does speak to some ambition, I feel. Kinda surprised they didn't use an established engine with a lot of internal support like Unreal. But, maybe this is smarter for an in-house long tail live service game.
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Not all engines work for different kind of games. A FPS game engine might be difficult for a MMO game. Kinda the problem Frostbite had/has
All their engines fit different needs. Unless you want a Frostbite scenario here :p
how many engines are the Bethesda studios working on? Isn't the Starfield team working on a new engine too?
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No. They just massively overhauled it, "their biggest overhaul since Oblivion," according to Todd.
Looking forward to see what this is about.
The studio's name is Zenimax Online, its gonna be an online game.
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Different engines are built for different games.
Id Tech would need a massive revamp to work on BGS titles for example, that's why it's only DOOM and Wolfenstein so far.
Arkane made their own engine with Dishonored 2
Tango also made their own engine with TEW 2, but they switched to UE4 for GhostWire.
But for how long? :D I guess Microsoft will rename that particular studio sooner or later. It's unlikely that the game will be SP though, but even that isn't set in stone.
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I mean thats their expertise, game has been in production since 2018 and they ask for MMO experience in jobs.
To be fair, and I say this as an unintentional member of the Bethesda Defence Force who tries to best back at the internet meme that is Bethesda, Todd has said this basically every release. While not exactly a lie every time, the results don't always mean their games are suddenly on the visual level of, say, Sony's 1st party titles. So, expect folks to still complain about the look and feel of Starfield because it's simply part and parcel of a Bethesda game.
Yep, they've been hard at work on this for quite a while. I think that's why we've seen very little of Matt Firor on ESO updates (project lead, ostensibly) and a lot more of Rich Lambert (creative director). Baton was effectively passed years ago while Firor finally gets to make the MMO he really wanted to make (he always said he wanted to make ESO DaoC2 in all but name). I think that's why it was such a misfire at launch on so many levels.
They did a fantastic job turning ESO around though, and have a really good handle on what people want from a modern MMO now (mostly solo content, with optional group PVE and PVP end game, and the odd multiplayer focused world event like world bosses). I'm really interested to see what they're cooking up!
Well, to be fair to Todd, their games always improve visually, FO4 looked better than Skyrim, and FO76 looked better than FO4, but you're right, their games always look just decent graphically. However, this time I'm inclined to believe him more, because the CPU upgrade in the consoles will help Bethesda immensely. Bad CPU was always the bottleneck that held back their games because of the sheer numbers of interactive objects their worlds have. So I do expect their games to make a big leap forward this time.
Yeah, Elder Scrolls Online is the best MMORPG on the market as far as I'm concerned. I would hope they'd add some sandbox elements in their next title, though.
It'll never happen. Not because designers can't think of alternatives but because the MMO diehards hate games that don't have the trinity roles. GW2 sold itself hard on being an anti-trinity MMO with no raids, but what happened when the first expansion dropped? They added raids and trinity roles.
Yeah honestly I don't really see what is there to talk about here, it's cool and all but we won't hear anything until halfway into next-gen at the earliest
Sort of. It's really more like of a custom fork IDT5 (which TEW1 used).
imo they have "evolved" but into mmo-lites and 'traditional' MMOs (WoW, ESO ect) became but a handful of games that suck up that particular part of the market
i remember playing Lineage 2 back in the day and chatting with my clan i was bitching about how rigid these type of games were and somebody said "look man this is basically aim chat on a treadmill, how do you really 'fix' it. it's what it is"
Guild wars 2 removed the trinity and they still eventually managed to make classes heal everyone eventually.
Yeah the pace and quality of their expansions and updates have been great for ESO. I have no doubt that this game will see great support out the gate.
I think it might be a sci-fi or science fantasy setting since they hired Colin Campbell as a lead level designer, and he was a level designer for the Mass Effect games. That's a stretch, though, since he can obviously do other kinds of level design.
No Starfield is still built upon the wreckage of CE so adjust expectations accordingly with that one.