confirms what we knew all this time, whedon can't direct action scenes for shit
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Zack Snyder's Justice League |OT| #ReleasedTheSnyderCut (HBO Max)
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confirms what we knew all this time, whedon can't direct action scenes for shit
it's just one image in a thread full of wonder woman killing dudes
My favorite too. Superb visuals and music giving pay off to the climax of the movie. Shocking they removed this in the theater cut.Just posting my fav scene
For a second I thought she just legit killed all the hostages, lol.
I'm about an hour and a half in and it's definitely the Snyder cut. It's seems more coherent than MOS and BvS though.
I don't personally like it very much and I find it to be largely self-important and pretentious, if beautifully shot. I don't think this will necessarily convert people who aren't into Snyder's style, but for his fans I think this will be exactly what they're looking for..
As someone who didn't like the way that scene ended because there were clearly much better options available to her, Diana killing Max Lord being a character break is not a popular opinion. She's not a murderer. She's one of the most caring members of the League. But she also knows when you're playing for all the marbles, the wellbeing of the persons deliberately putting everyone else in danger is a bottom tier priority maybe just above or below your own depending on how squishy they arr.
I think the place where Arthur goes in JL isn't the same one we see in Aquaman. I think it's just a statue/monument dedicated to the past king. Cause in the Aquaman movie, you actually see the real trident and armor there, where as this one is just all stone.
Neither film is good. But being better than the Snyder Cut is a very, very low bar to clear.
Uff, I remember that in 2017 I though this was just a bolted on scene to the movie because Wonder Woman was really popular from BvS and her own movie. It was so bad with the one liner and how it was cut. Snyders version is a lot better.
Don't forget the other ass shot when she was meeting up with cyborg for the first time.
Gonna get a yelling at for this but I much prefer the 2017 one of these, the newer one is just too long and stuffed with a borderline comical amount of slow mo, holy shit. Plus it's just more vibrant colour wise.
Saw someone mocking the crab walk block thing as a Whedon addition a few weeks back, pretty funny that it wasn't..thought that bit looked pretty neat mind!
So Whedon changed it from
Guy: "I don't believe it"
Diana: "Believe it"
to
Guy: "I don't believe it, what are you?"
Diana: "A Believer"
lol
The epilogue Knightmare scene was filmed last year, right? So they brought Amber Heard back after Aquaman for her to use the British accent again when it was already retconned?
Woops, I missed that - I thought in the Snyder cut they didn't exchange words at all.
Both are not great but the shorter one is better.
The moment of her throwing up the briefcase was so bad in 2017 I was dreading it, but here it was done so different and I fucking loved the shot of her in the air over the city.
It would make sense to keep it. Would be weirder for her to change accent in the same movie even though its different in the AQ movie.
Both of these explanations make sense, thanks. I'm willing to rock with it either way.
I'm a little over an hour into the movie and I have to say I'm enjoying it. Some of the "new" scenes are really exposition heavy and I can see why they were cut. But the upside of them now being in the new film is...we're getting a lot of exposition and I'm suddenly more emotionally invested in these characters and what's happening in the story. Funny how that works.
Some of the scenes are a bit over stylized, and Snyder could have turned down The Snyder Filter to about 85%, but I'll give the movie so far the same compliment I give every DCU movie: it's gorgeously shot and beautiful to watch.
Also have to say that when Snyder is at his best, he's really good at the surprise emotional gut punch. I paused the movie after the football scene, when Victor scores the touchdown and looks up in the bleachers at his mother cheering for him...and then the camera pans down to the empty chair next to her. Whew, that was good.
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Yeah, I said the same thing out loud while watching it, lol. Like okaaay, that's a choice.
There are scenes that 100% would understandably get cut in a theatrical version but are still great to see, like Batman and Alfred about to board their plane, Diana making tea and Alfred trying to butt in, or maybe even Bruce and Alfred talking together in the hanger while they are working on the Batmobile. So yeah, glad we get to see more of Jeremy Irons who is so great at that role in BvS and this movie.
Very much enjoyed that. I love how insane the action gets and that I can follow along, and that the characters have consistency in their abilities (unlike the MCU).
Loved seeing it in 4:3, how refreshing.
Oh, that epilogue made no sense to me.
Loved seeing it in 4:3, how refreshing.
Oh, that epilogue made no sense to me.
This was me. Loved the first viewing in a single sitting, but I've been rewatching in chunks. The title cards really do give nice stopping points instead of just having to decide on one.
I have a question. This is not a complaint or a nitpick, this is me suspecting I missed something in the mythology as presented in the film, or perhaps some of the statements made were false/exaggerations.
Allegedly, earth was the only planet to successfully defend against Darkseid's invasion, right? Pretty sure Wonder Woman said that in her exposition dump. So when they get a call from some Mother Boxes stranded on a planet outside their control, how did they not immediately conclude that this was the lost location of the Anti-Life Equation?
Like, I've gotta conclude that the whole "nobody else defeated the forces of Apokolips" bit is false, right? Maybe it was accurate at the time, and Earth was the first, but since then others have pulled it off as well? Or perhaps it was always propaganda: Darkseid rolls up, "resistance is futile, nobody has ever defeated us!" but turns out he's got like a 50/50 win-loss and is just fronting, but the Amazons believed it and wrote it down on their murals "we're the best, nobody else ever wins, yay Earth!"
Allegedly, earth was the only planet to successfully defend against Darkseid's invasion, right? Pretty sure Wonder Woman said that in her exposition dump. So when they get a call from some Mother Boxes stranded on a planet outside their control, how did they not immediately conclude that this was the lost location of the Anti-Life Equation?
Like, I've gotta conclude that the whole "nobody else defeated the forces of Apokolips" bit is false, right? Maybe it was accurate at the time, and Earth was the first, but since then others have pulled it off as well? Or perhaps it was always propaganda: Darkseid rolls up, "resistance is futile, nobody has ever defeated us!" but turns out he's got like a 50/50 win-loss and is just fronting, but the Amazons believed it and wrote it down on their murals "we're the best, nobody else ever wins, yay Earth!"
This will be me tonight. I'm going again for a bunch of reasons. Maybe not all in one sitting but if that ended up happening I wouldn't be shocked at all lol
Haha yeah, but in this case it'd make sense to keep the voice consistent within just this one film.
Yeah honestly watching this and BvS just make me wish Snyder had simply done his own Batman movie instead. It's a shame we won't be getting more Jeremy Irons Alfred or that much more Affleck Batman (I know he's in Flash but it's prob a cameo).
Been a few theories floating around about that, but nothing conclusive. I really felt like they should have omitted the line about Darkseid finding a power hidden on Earth during the first invasion, and have Steppenwolf be the one to find Anti-Life.
I also didn't get this but think it's just a plot hole. Because otherwise the reason Darkseid has gone thousands of years without using the Anti-Life Equation is because he just forgot where Earth was.
Just finished watching and I really liked it. It's a really good film. One criticism is that it could have easily trimmed to 3 hours and world have received even better reviews.
- Diana scenes make perfect sense. She is trying to make a point that even after superman's death there are protectors there.
- Women sniffing Arthur shirt also is not weired at all. Many of people in poorer countries behave same way when they meet some religious preacher etc
- Diana scenes make perfect sense. She is trying to make a point that even after superman's death there are protectors there.
- Women sniffing Arthur shirt also is not weired at all. Many of people in poorer countries behave same way when they meet some religious preacher etc
Old Gods HBO Max mini-series, I'd be down.
Like, I know this was supposed to be a one and done and the situation behind it was unique (footage already shot, things like that) but man, there are so many things that could come from this.
Yes I want both an Old gods and an Amazons series on HBO max
I think you are missing the point...his cut is/was made for the fans. There is no point in leaving things in the cutting room floor, so he just put everything he shot in it. Complete fan service.
100% The world building in this film was fantastic. It left you wanting to explore more!
Yeah I kinda got that feeling too when darkseid couldn't remember which planet he left the mother boxes on and which had the most important thing to him.
Well seemingly Darkseid didn't wanna mess with any place that had kryptonians or a large lantern presence either. Idk it seems that just forgot about earth lol
Yup, rather have it all.
Can always skip stuff on subsequent viewings.
Yes if this was gonna be in theaters they could easily get down to 3 hours but this is just a thanks to fans so here ya go
For real tho, I'd love for them to #RestoreTheSnyderVerse lol. Some amazing potential here and no point in "starting over" imo, especially when they're already going all in on the whole multiverse idea so they can still have their one-offs like Joker, The Batman, Watchmen, etc. Not everything needs to be connected to the Snyderverse like the MCU is.