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Zack Snyder’s Justice League Coming to HBO Max 2021
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The absolute worst thing in JL, among all of its other bad additions and reshoots, was its ending.
You have a genuinely cool shot of superman doing his classic shirt pose and . . . There's no MOS Score
Easily one the best modern superhero scores and its not used once.
I'll take this as WB admitting their massive fuck up.
Can they just stop showing and printing that Whedon cut now?
Can they just stop showing and printing that Whedon cut now?
He's done when it comes to theatrical DC films, but I wouldn't rule out a continuation of the Snyderverse on HBO Max in some form if Snyder's Justice League proves to be a huge win for the service. Despite being owned by AT&T, HBO Max and WB are separate entities. Just because WB no longer wants to work with Zack Snyder (assuming here), doesn't mean that HBO Max won't. This is why I wouldn't rule out the possibility of the Snyderverse continuing on HBO Max even though I think it's highly unlikely.
Having said that, if Netflix and Disney+ is willing to spend Blockbuster sized money on films like 6 Underground or a series like the Mandalorian, why wouldn't HBO Max at least consider the same for a new Batman, Superman, Cyborg, Deathstroke, etc. similar budgeted film or series? Having a concurrent WB led theatrical universe doesn't stop HBO Max from releasing more films on their service, particularly when the idea of multiverses will be cemented in the upcoming Flash film.
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I'm pretty sure Zack has a new netflix movie coming out? Something about a gas station and an army of zombies?
Edit: https://cosmicbook.news/zack-snyder-wraps-army-dead-netflix
something i think he will do a lot better at than superheroes, but i might be biased in that i love a good heist movie
Edit: https://cosmicbook.news/zack-snyder-wraps-army-dead-netflix
something i think he will do a lot better at than superheroes, but i might be biased in that i love a good heist movie
So far what I've seen...
- Give HBO Max a gritty mini-series a la The Mandalorian.
- Using existing footage, remote work CGI/VFX, some new footage, and finishing a new soundtrack they're able to effectively produce something "new" when most of the content studios are closed/work from home.
- Garner word of mouth buzz and hype right for HBO Max right before launch.
- Garner goodwill from a fanbase. Not sure how large or important that is, but it's a thing.
Yes, its called Army of the Dead
Staring, among other people, Bautista.
Sounds like a great premise, casino heist during a zombie outbreak
yeah I think Zack will do good in that, I'm excited for the premise and the cast, and he has good talent shooting action so an action film should be a better avenue for him.
Yep, Avengers, Buffy, Firefly, Dr. Horrible, Cabin in the Woods, his Astonishing X-Men comics run.
All such garbage.
I am really excited about it - Its actually quite a unique genre mashup and the cast seems great.
Ahem, this, was, in fact, the worst thing in the film, the literal final shot :
Ahem, this, was, in fact, the worst thing in the film, the literal final shot :
. . .
Okay yeah fair enough haha
What. Why would you want to see this on an inferior service that's bound to be dissolved due to duplication?
It's longer and 100% Snyder, so it will be worse by the odds.
Bold of WB to start a new trend of sinking more money and time on a box office and critical dissapointment.
It remains to be seen if an online movement can make this worth the effort. Snakes on a plane was the grandaddy of this, and while on the Internet it felt massive, on the box office floped.
I hope it does well, so there are more chances of more "cuts" and movies rebuilt for streaming, good or bad.
It remains to be seen if an online movement can make this worth the effort. Snakes on a plane was the grandaddy of this, and while on the Internet it felt massive, on the box office floped.
I hope it does well, so there are more chances of more "cuts" and movies rebuilt for streaming, good or bad.
Considering that its probably being worked on right now, its hard to say
Not at all.
This seems to be something a lot of people don't really understand. Basically every big budget movie has scheduled reshoots these days.
That doesn't mean they don't go into production with a full shooting script, and it doesn't mean that the initial shoot is incomplete.
Reshoots are desirable often enough that it makes sense to schedule them and contract the actors for them. You shoot the whole movie and wrap, then you edit together what you have, and decide what parts could be improved, are unclear, whatever.
They shot the entire movie as scripted by Snyder. They don't need to bring anyone back to reshoot anything (though they are doing some ADR as is common in post production) and aren't bringing anyone back for reshoots.
I can't imagine that Snyder was the one who wanted to bring in Joss Whedon to add comedy to the movie, as was the original plan for the reshoots. That sounds like the studio to me.
TLDR. They shot a complete story. All big budget movies schedule reshoots and use them to try and improve what they have in the can, although that doesn't always bring the movie closer to what the director envisioned.
I've read nothing to suggest the original shoot was incomplete or a mess, and judging from the Whedon comedy in the final picture I'm not sure the film was improved by those changes.
I mean, yes.
If I am to be serious instead of over the top hyperbolic for a minute:
- I thought the first Avengers was boring quip fest and did not enjoy it at all, haven't even watched Age of Ultron
- Buffy is mediocre (and the original movie is just straight up bad)
- Firefly is probably one thing of his that I like the most and that's just because it got mercifully cancelled before he could properly Whedon it up with his angst shit (or not, given Serenity and the comics)
- Cabin and Horrible I haven't watched
- Whedon's AXM is ass, so sorry, not sorry, and not even Cassaday's art could salvage that trainwreck; but yay, back in spandex, wheeeee, groan, kill me now, oh fuck, I guess hyperbole is back again, yes, it's worse than Chuck Austen, &@?%§!
But hey, maybe Whedon will also get to come back to some of his properties and we will finally get that Inara gang rape storyline, can't wait
This is one of the stranger auto corrects I've seen.
Okay, so it's officially hard to take this seriously.
That "trainwreck" is one of the all-time great X-Men runs.
Lmao, can't believe it exists
All the whining from people here about how stupid others are for believing in the snydercut and it actually exists. What a time to be alive.
I also see the same ten or so posters who have had a hate boner for Snyder since I first started on this site are on pretty much nearly every page on this thread looking for reasons to shit on the movie and discourse.
You see less salt in a salt mine. And I say that as someone who isn't even a fan of Snyder's work.
All the whining from people here about how stupid others are for believing in the snydercut and it actually exists. What a time to be alive.
I also see the same ten or so posters who have had a hate boner for Snyder since I first started on this site are on pretty much nearly every page on this thread looking for reasons to shit on the movie and discourse.
You see less salt in a salt mine. And I say that as someone who isn't even a fan of Snyder's work.
Thank you!!!
This has gone on for years with mods never batting an eye even when reported. It's actually something that just came right over wholesale when Era was even created. Why do you think people stayed in the Hangouts thread for so long, just to get away from this damn abuse and just straight up toxicity. Seriously people have a little damn introspection and look at what some of you are actually typing here and have been typing every single damn time this topic even comes up.
I think I need some information on the original issue.
When he was directing the original movie, did his budget get cut or something? I just know Superman had a fake mouth in the beginning and maybe the film cut reduced a bit. Not sure what the big deal is.
When he was directing the original movie, did his budget get cut or something? I just know Superman had a fake mouth in the beginning and maybe the film cut reduced a bit. Not sure what the big deal is.
What auto correct?
Not really, no. The only good thing it accomplished was shooting Kitty Pryde into space, but she sadly came back to be annoying anew.
Oh boy this is gonna be such a spectacular trainwreck, considering Whedon barely managed to make the film mediocre instead another trashfire like BvS, I can only imagine how bad Snyder actually doing his own fully solo directing take on the film is gonna be. There's no way this'll be even remotely good, his track record with DC material has been abysmal.
Snyder's daughter died and he left the film before it was finished. WB brought in Whedon to finish it and he ended up reshooting and cutting stuff.
Opinions vary on how much Snyder's exit was voluntary.
There were already 2 weeks of reshoots planned prior to the Whedon shift, and after the announcement from WB, that schedule went from 2 weeks to 2 months. That doesn't mean reshoot footage that was intended under Snyder was seen through as planned, or even filmed at all.
Reshoots are inherent to big cg movies like this, for pickups, clarity, or narrative economy. Those shoots not being done as Snyder intended still leaves those gaps to be filled.
Okay, so you're trolling. Never mind. This is usually what happens with the hyperbolic Whedon hate.
Wait... you think people not liking the movies you like should be a moddable offense?
I'm not trolling, I just don't like a thing you do. Big whoop.
I don't actually think it was worse than Chuck Austen though, that's true
I love this enthusiasm, considering this was memed into existence
You go man
There is nothing wrong with saying you dislike a movie and why. Not at all. What is wrong is people insulting, lying, posting misinformation, trolling, harassing, being dismissing, etc of and to other posters. Generally saying untrue stuff and trying to make it seem like fact about people and things. That stuff does and has been modded in the past when it comes to many things. However that shit has been allowed to run wild in DC threads for years.
Out of curiosity, what are some of your favorite X-Men runs?
Why so negative on this, regardless of if it's garbage or not, it's a totally different direction and film. It'll be certainly an interesting watch and it's GOOD they are allowing the original version to be shown.
I'm not expecting anything great out of this, but I do expect it to be interesting seeing the two totally different visions.
Holy shit I didn't know. I apologize if I came off like a jerk.
Man thats tough to hear. Now I'm rooting for him to make the film he always wanted.
How are you calling Snyder trash and then batting for Whedon in the same breath smh
Morrison, Carey. Not much of a Marvel fan, really.
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