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Yuri Lowell is best boy
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I can't opine, haven't played any Tales game past Eternia. Sounds pretty neat from your OP, I'll take a wiseass that can back it up infiniteny earlier than the average dumb-as-a-rock JRPG protag.
It was refreshing to get a guy who's story is in the making than your JRPG character with a traumatic past or having lame 'coming of age' protag spouting platitudes.
Right. They left all the preachy shit to Estelle, awkward puberty shit to Karol and the edginess to Judy. It's like he is is trope free.
I want to replay Vesperia because I remember it being on the "good average" Tales of category. For me, the "good" Tales of are Shymponia, Phantasia and Abyss. The "good average" ones are Destiny, Vesperia, Berseria. The "bad average" ones are Zestiria and Hearts. And all the others are in the "neutral average" category.
Having not played any other Tales game, Yuri makes the strongest case for me that a good voiced main character with his own morals and beliefs is superior to the self-insert silent protag of most other jrpg's at least for me. All the fanfare about him i heard before made the impression to me that he comes out perfect from the beginning but to my surprise he gets humbled on his old views and takes criticism pretty seriously and is never too melodramatic about stuff either. Really like how many of these skits there are to flesh out the charcters in a fun way. I will probablly get broken by my completionists needs and just take it easy for my first playthrough.
There's a prequel anime? Holy fck
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What really bums me out is that this is clearly a winning formula they have, and one that the fan base for the series took to well, judging by Yuri's popularity, and yet they have refused to follow up on it in ten years. How can you be this stupid?
Yuri spoke in a cutscene as I was playing this in front of my wife and she was floored to find out he wasn't a she. And mind you, she watches a bunch of Anime, so she's no stranger to androgynous Anime dudes.
But yeah, Yuri is indeed amazing and the only other JRPG protagonist I like more is maybe Zidane (FFIX).
IIRC this was the first tales game I played after Vesperia, and holy hell could they not have 180'd harder. Asbel is an insufferable protagonist that falls into every trope Yuri avoids.
I don't understand what you meam. Bamco released tons of Tales of games after Vesperia, most of them fairly similar. They even used the rogue hero again in Berseria, this time even more "anti-hero" than ever.
Will be interesting to see how you like it as the game progresses.
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Haven't played Berseria, but Graces, Xillia/2, and Zestiria all eschewed this template for the protagonist entirely.
I don't think it will beat out, say, Xenoblade 2 or Dragon Quest 11 for me (let alone something like P5), but I think I will like it a lot if it continues along this path... which it may not, judging by some recent developments in the story lol.
Who knows what game they announce at Tales Festival this year. Might be Vesperia 2.
The thing is about Flynn is that his method would probably eventually get him killed if Yuri didn't go vigilante.
Well, Berseria was exactly a response to this criticism. The main hero is edgy as hell (I prefer Yuri) and fights again the "system" during all the game. Also the bad guys are not that bad and there are some genuine ambiguous situations where the MC decisions are all about her interest and against the common wellfare.
Edit: the game has the main problem as Vesperia or most JRPGs, at the end it's all about saving the world and fighting almighty entities, which is a shame really.
Yuri is fantastic. It's refreshing to see a JRPG protag who's a bit older and on the mature side without treading into Gary Stu territory.
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Yeah, Flynn would probably have ended up on the wrong end of a sword if Yuri wasn't looking out for him.
I'll get to Berseria eventually. It's good to hear Velvet is more like Yuri.
Yuri is da boi, especially with the Dark Enforcer costume.
I remember buying my first 360 just for this game and I didn't regret it at all, the game instantly became my favorite jRPG that gen. Having a protag with basically no tropey bullshit was really refreshing.
I remember buying my first 360 just for this game and I didn't regret it at all, the game instantly became my favorite jRPG that gen. Having a protag with basically no tropey bullshit was really refreshing.
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I think that's the key thing, you have a protagonist who somehow falls into none of the usual tropes. It's so cool to have a character like him, and so sad that there aren't more of his type around.
In terms of Tales games, yeah, Yuri is definitely at the top (Velvet is probably the only one to come close since then).
In comparison to general JRPG protagonists though? Eh... he's up there but Yuri still has a ways to go before touching the likes of Yuri from Shadow Hearts, Stocke from Radiant Historia, Lenneth from Valkyrie Profile, etc.
In comparison to general JRPG protagonists though? Eh... he's up there but Yuri still has a ways to go before touching the likes of Yuri from Shadow Hearts, Stocke from Radiant Historia, Lenneth from Valkyrie Profile, etc.
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Yuri murder Cumore. I honestly expected
his murder of Ragou to be a one time thing only, I didn't expect this to be a path he goes down continuously. Surprised Estelle seems to be on board as well.
Totally agree with you OP.
Yuri is one of my favourite protagonists of all time and he just gets better and better as the game goes on
Yuri is one of my favourite protagonists of all time and he just gets better and better as the game goes on
Well, Graces is the "Discovering the Strength to Protect RPG" after all, though they went a bit overboard with that tagline :p
Vesperia and Symphonia are the best Tales games imo. So yeah you should play it. Yuri is a great main character.
Symphonia feels dated today though. Hate the chibi artstyle also.
Nier came out in 2010.
Yuri is a big part of why Vesperia is the best Tales game, though (at least among those released in the west -- ToD Remake/2 might be better overall?).
Only an hour and a half in, but yeah, I'm liking Yuri as a protagonist. Definitely a change of pace from the protagonists we usually see in JRPGs.
Side note: when does the battle system get good?
Side note: when does the battle system get good?
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No, am I supposed to? I've got no impression of her so far
I'm bummed I didn't listen to you before :P
It builds up slowly over a few hours. It gets a bit more nuanced around where you are, and then gets more mechanics added to it over time. I recommend switching the difficulty to a higher level of it gets too button mashy as well.
It's been over a decade, but I remember being disappointed
that he never has to confront his own hypocrisy in any meaningful way. I remember that phoenix thing literally turning his own words against him about how an infected body part should be cut off to avoid killing the whole. But because the greater good involves killing one of his own friends this time instead of a cartoonishly evil government official, he refuses. I like him a lot, and the hypocrisy humanizes him, but I was disappointed that nobody grilled him harder over it.
Sodia is an annoying ass bitch but to be fair she doesn't do anything worth hating
until later.
Yuri is phenomenal as far as JRPG leads. A decent head on his shoulders, a sense of humor, a badass but also is warm and empathetic to those he interacts with. And a sense of morality that doesn't just leave him to content to sit on the sidelines and presume that systemic injustice will sort itself out.
Yuri is a bar that no other game in the genre has been able to meet.
Yuri is a bar that no other game in the genre has been able to meet.
Vesperia had the best all around cast
Can't think of another Tales game that did it so well
Yuri was icing on the cake
I think the cast also had a lot of chemistry that I didn't feel in other Tales games, the way they teased each other was one of my favorite things
Can't think of another Tales game that did it so well
Yuri was icing on the cake
I think the cast also had a lot of chemistry that I didn't feel in other Tales games, the way they teased each other was one of my favorite things
Well yuri saves everyones bacon again and again but she is always hostile towards him. It annoyed me atleast.
I will disagree here, most tales games are good with this. You can fault the game play or main story but the skits system actually provide a lot of nice characters interactions and moments.
I played Vesperia a decade ago and Berseria a few months ago, but can't remember any of the latter's party members save for Velvet and her pseudo-brother (and that the pirate had an awful character design).
Notice how Estelle herself doesn't slide into a neat little box labeled "sheltered royal ingenue".
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Yup, sounds about right.
Though my award for best Tales genre still goes to Tales of Rebirth for its incredibly gripping 「クレア！」と叫ぶ RPG ("Yelling 'KUREA' RPG").