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Ys vs. Trails
- Thread starter Phediuk
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I've yet to play a Trails game, but think I'll probably like those more despite currently grinding out map percentage in Ys: Memories of Celceta, after completing all Ys I and II and all three campaigns in Origins in the space of a couple of months and having an incredible time.
YS for sure, the gameplay is far too superior and refined in almost every way.
I like Trails, it has its own merit and I don't think there's another jrpg series who have that strong world building, but outside of that and the continued plot it's not that fun to play. There are some pretty cool character (like, really, I wish every jrpg have a charismatic protagonist like Estelle), but most of the time people talk too much and say something futile or obvious. The battle system is not bad, but it's just too slow, I don't know how I could have handled Cold Steel without the Turbo Mode. Overall it's a pretty good series, it's just that YS is way more attractive to me with its excellent battle system and addictive gameplay, nice exploration and environments, some metroidvania mechanics, cool dungeons ecc.
I like Trails, it has its own merit and I don't think there's another jrpg series who have that strong world building, but outside of that and the continued plot it's not that fun to play. There are some pretty cool character (like, really, I wish every jrpg have a charismatic protagonist like Estelle), but most of the time people talk too much and say something futile or obvious. The battle system is not bad, but it's just too slow, I don't know how I could have handled Cold Steel without the Turbo Mode. Overall it's a pretty good series, it's just that YS is way more attractive to me with its excellent battle system and addictive gameplay, nice exploration and environments, some metroidvania mechanics, cool dungeons ecc.
Gonna go with Ys.
Trails is recently falling into the so called otaku bait dark hole and I hate this. It is getting worse and worse. Ys meanwhile is just as it was aside from some problematic issues here and there. Trails Sky trilogy were the best trails.
Also the gameplay in Ys is far superior in all it's three forms.
Trails is recently falling into the so called otaku bait dark hole and I hate this. It is getting worse and worse. Ys meanwhile is just as it was aside from some problematic issues here and there. Trails Sky trilogy were the best trails.
Also the gameplay in Ys is far superior in all it's three forms.
Ys has the better gameplay and you don't have to spend a thousand years interacting with every NPC to get the most out of the game so that.
Can't really decide, I only played Ys Origin and Ys 8 which was one of the best A-RPG of the gen imo.
I'm now going through the trails series. (In the middle of Ao currently) and it's amazing how everything connects, it definitely became one of my favorite jrpg series. Can't wait to get into the Cold Steel games.
I'd say I love both series for different reasons currently.
I'm now going through the trails series. (In the middle of Ao currently) and it's amazing how everything connects, it definitely became one of my favorite jrpg series. Can't wait to get into the Cold Steel games.
I'd say I love both series for different reasons currently.
Trails because I love how interconnected the world is in these games. Like the stuff you see in Sky games will later connect to the other games and so forth.
Also the music is fantastic and the gameplay is really fun.
Whenever this OST played I remember getting extremely hyped for a certain boss lol.
Also the music is fantastic and the gameplay is really fun.
Whenever this OST played I remember getting extremely hyped for a certain boss lol.
My opinions tend to be a bit transient in terms of specific order but if I had to list right now;
pre "party" ys > sky trilogy > ys viii >> rest of "party" ys >> cold steel (though 3).
pre "party" ys > sky trilogy > ys viii >> rest of "party" ys >> cold steel (though 3).
Trails.
I dropped Ys 8 around 10 hours in. I found it simply mediocre in all aspects except music.
I finished the Trails of Cold Steel 1 and dropped the 2nd near the end (I think). It's a fine game but it's very repetitive since it follows the exact same formula for pretty much the whole game. I wish it was shorter and less predictable. Once again I thought the music was a banger and I really liked the characters overall.
These were the only games I've played from this dev, imo they really need to improve their game design.
I dropped Ys 8 around 10 hours in. I found it simply mediocre in all aspects except music.
I finished the Trails of Cold Steel 1 and dropped the 2nd near the end (I think). It's a fine game but it's very repetitive since it follows the exact same formula for pretty much the whole game. I wish it was shorter and less predictable. Once again I thought the music was a banger and I really liked the characters overall.
These were the only games I've played from this dev, imo they really need to improve their game design.
I've played like 5 or 6 Ys games and only 1 Trails game (FC)
FC was an utterly miserable experience and IMO an incredibly overrated game. I liked almost nothing about it. Art style sucked, music was straight up bad at best and irritating at worst, battle system was whatever, characters were forgettable, and the world was incredibly dull
Ys has a LOT of room for improvement but it's way fucking better than Trails
And maybe Falcom fans like this but the NPC's droning on and on is incredibly obnoxious
FC was an utterly miserable experience and IMO an incredibly overrated game. I liked almost nothing about it. Art style sucked, music was straight up bad at best and irritating at worst, battle system was whatever, characters were forgettable, and the world was incredibly dull
Ys has a LOT of room for improvement but it's way fucking better than Trails
And maybe Falcom fans like this but the NPC's droning on and on is incredibly obnoxious
Trails.
I like the action gameplay in Ys, but what trails do (a gigantic interconnected story with an insane amount of localtions/characters/events that are relevant in future games) is far more impressive. Old Ys games are nice (but rather simplistic) and the modern ones seem to try too hard to introduce lots of dialogue/NPCs/story scenes that never feel that interesting and are at odds with the fast-paced action nature of the games.
I like the action gameplay in Ys, but what trails do (a gigantic interconnected story with an insane amount of localtions/characters/events that are relevant in future games) is far more impressive. Old Ys games are nice (but rather simplistic) and the modern ones seem to try too hard to introduce lots of dialogue/NPCs/story scenes that never feel that interesting and are at odds with the fast-paced action nature of the games.
To be fair Cold Steel 2 is by far the worst game in the series you should definately try the the Sky triology or the Crossbell games which are much better then the Cold Steel games except maybe 3 which was pretty good.
Never understood why people said you have to interact will all the NPCs multiple times to get the most out of Trails. It's just a nice touch but nothing the games depend upon imo.
it's an enthusiast forum where most people suggest playing a game on Hard mode in their initial run so I'm not surprised
I see that everywhere for Trails. People act like the most interesting thing about the game is NPCs dialogue lol
I didn't think it was bad, in fact I really enjoyed the start where you get your crew back (the first 20h or so?). The problem was after when you get the ship, you start having like 3 tasks and only then the story moves forward, rinse and repeat for the rest of the game. The first was also like this with the field studies, the flow of the game becomes super predictable and I don't like that.
Also I'm the type of person that likes to talk to everyone to get more of the story/world and that can get really tiring in these games, but if I don't do it I feel like I'm missing part of the game (and in fact I am, since for some reason hidden side-quests are a thing) so in the end I just burned out.
you're not wrong
I chose to never give another Trails game a chance after FC because the overall message I got was "if you don't love talking to NPC's for world building purposes then don't play the game"
I agree, I don't do that, I speak to familiar faces when I see them but that's it. I just don't have the time. There are too many games you need to get done in order to catch up with the series, it would take an obscene amount of time to do everything and talk to everyone in each game.
I would've done it if I was caught up and only needed to play the newest entry though. But I started the series around 2 months ago knowing I had 8 games to play before CSIV so no way lmao
Trails has just become embarrassing with Cold Steel 2 and 3. I loved TitS but CS3 is just ludicrous with the level of leaning into sexualising it's female cast, it's just indicative of the way these games have been circling the drain over the last decade with all the harem crap. Ys is always enjoyable though, even if a few of the designs are awful.
Cant wait for trails to get away from cold steel cst and characters. Theyve gotten really bad.
Some quirks of the newer Ys games arent to m y liking either and Ys8 was way overblown.
I wouldnt say either series is going downhill per se but i do think theyve both seen better days.
Some quirks of the newer Ys games arent to m y liking either and Ys8 was way overblown.
I wouldnt say either series is going downhill per se but i do think theyve both seen better days.
Ys by far. I've enjoyed nearly all of the games I've played except 1+2. With Trails I've tried two of them and dropped them after about 15 hours each. They do have my interest by saying they'll be changing up the battle systems with the next game so maybe I'll give it another shot, but it'll definitely be the last time I try getting into the series or I don't end up liking the new systems either.
Ys.
I loved Trails in the Sky and Cold Steel, but they were difficult to continue with since it took a while for the localizations (Trails in the Sky in particular, not to mention PSP to Vita so no save transfer to my knowledge), so by the time the next game was released I was involved with something else or busy with life. They're long, heavily story driven games, whereas Ys was always easy to pick up and jump right into the action.
On a side note, I wish their were more Ys figurines. I have three Trails in the Sky, but only one Ys figure.
I loved Trails in the Sky and Cold Steel, but they were difficult to continue with since it took a while for the localizations (Trails in the Sky in particular, not to mention PSP to Vita so no save transfer to my knowledge), so by the time the next game was released I was involved with something else or busy with life. They're long, heavily story driven games, whereas Ys was always easy to pick up and jump right into the action.
On a side note, I wish their were more Ys figurines. I have three Trails in the Sky, but only one Ys figure.
I've only played Ys so I won't vote, but I find the idea of starting the Trails games kind of intimidating - from what I've heard there are seven of them available in the west, they take 50+ hours each to complete and you have to play the earlier entries to know what's going on in later ones, and I think there are some entries that never got an English release? That's a hell of a commitment.
OTOH the Ys games are self-contained enough for someone to play one of them and not feel like they're missing out too much if they haven't played previous entries.
OTOH the Ys games are self-contained enough for someone to play one of them and not feel like they're missing out too much if they haven't played previous entries.
One of these moments when i go "hmm, i should play the entire Trails serie...oh goddamnit how many games is it from the first Dragonslayer until now?!"
