Probably true.
And while I haven't seen many, every single one of them were man bun wearing goobers and their hippie girlfriends.
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YouTube Video: "Dear White Beg-packers..." (See Staff Post)
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Probably true.
And while I haven't seen many, every single one of them were man bun wearing goobers and their hippie girlfriends.
The Dutch? I do think the Dutch have relatively many people with english as their second language but many Dutch people don't speak english at all or very little of it.. But okay, we like to generalize on Era. Most speak a couple of words of English at the very least.
Why is this a "white fragility" thing? These people are jerkoffs. They read Kerouac and totally missed the point.
White privilege is an issue - You'll be hard-pressed to point out where I said otherwise. The white priviledge inherent in this nonsense is clear, but is so far removed from how it influences systems like the US societal structures it's laughable and not worthy of the vitriol in this thread. (I'm expecting the next card to be whataboutism)
The white fragility is referring to the posters in this thread who are butthurt that we're not also talking about POC who do this, despite obviously not having watched the video.
The link I dug up real quick is self-reported, butI often see similar statistics.. Are they wrong?
You didn't watch the video, did you? You are #NotAllWhitePeople'ing the shit out of this right now.
That image was literally screencapped from the video itself and you can even see the YouTube play bar at the bottom of it. Taht's hardly a "go to image"
Hard to tell. Seems a bit much to me but i guess most can kinda manage. A lot of people overestimate their level of english. Of that i'm certain.The link I dug up real quick is self-reported, butI often see similar statistics.. Are they wrong?
I imagine the 90% is accurate for people living in the bigger urban areas, but I really doubt it holds up if you take all the rural areas into account as well.
Oh, absolutely. Self-reported lokely means "half of this". People have no idea how good or bad their English is. Even the school system has no idea.
High school equivalent graduates in Austria are supposed to have an English level of B2.
One of the first exams when studying English (for teaching purposes or otherwise) at uni requires a little multiple choice exam that requires B2 English knowledge to pass. 1 out of 3 students (or something like that) fail.
Yeah, that too.
Because white millennials would rather try to blame minorities first when their demographic is called out. Many would go along if you talk about "why black people do X" or "why asians do X" but the moment you go "why white people do X" it's all HOLD ON HOLD ON NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE
The link I dug up real quick is self-reported, butI often see similar statistics.. Are they wrong?
I spent a few months in Sweden and was quite disappointed that everyone I encountered spoke excellent English
What do you mean "card" though? It doesn't seem like you're interested in much of an honest back and forth dialogue if you're framing it like that, like it's a Yu-Gi-Oh battle or something.
Italy is a lot lower than I thought!
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I see "Dear White People" is a popular thing now. I'd suggest that whether White People deserve to hear a message or not, a really good way to have them shut down and not listen is to start with the words "Dear White People". Clearly puts people on the defensive.
But how did he get back to Gotham from that hole in the middle of nowhere with not even a dollar to his name? 🤔
Wanted to practice the language? My advice is: it's not rude to ask to try the local language. People understand, they just want to help.
(or act like you don't speak English)
Man. I just recently had a group of 7 Italian adults, who used hand gestures (not knowing that I got my Italian numbers down) to convery that they need 7 tickets.
Surely among the weaker countries when it comes to English. From my experience with tourists, the map at least gets the rankings right.
I'll be honest, as a PoC; I won't even travel to Europe east of around Austria. Such is the treatment I feel I'll receive, the fact thats an option without thought for white people speaks to the privilege they have. And this is as a well-off traveler.
This just sounds like a hippie or a drifter or like squeegee punk to me? It doesn't sound glamorous or anything, traveling with no money and trying to get by with begging. I've known plenty of people over the years who bailed on their middle class life to go wander the earth and I never really looked at it like they were fakers or priviledged liars or anything. It looked more like something I would never do in a million years, but they had weird adventurous wanderlust. I dunno... I don't think this is punching up?
I have always felt that if you travel to another country and stay for any amount of time you should be able to say pleasantries and ask for directions and things like that in the local language. Maybe I'm crazy but I think it's part of the experience.
Can't speak for anyone else, but I'd treat them the same way I would any other panhandler. You need a pretty good sob story to get money out of me.
Maybe white panhandlers make more than black panhandlers though. That sounds believable to me.
I always thought Finland shouldn't be a problem, but maybe that's just some rose colored glasses stuff?
Made it quite easy to travel there for work for me, haha. IIRC English is part of the school curriculum there and are constantly exposed to it.
Is it really that suprising
He probably had a foldable helicopter in that little bag of his.
I didn't know this had gone worldwide. I always knew people did this to travel around the US only.
Gross.
Gross.
Yo, I had a group of Spanish kids, and their teacher, the person literally in charge of their holiday in Austria, didn't speak any German or English. Weird stuff, especially since without those languages, the place where I work loses most of its value.
I agree with you to a degree, because I feel that English as a lingua franca is absolutely fine. If your stay is touristy, I don't expect any German at all.
That's the case in Germany and in Austria too.. I think its a subs-not-dubs thing? But I may be confused
This is so scummy.
I can get traveling, running out of funds (shit happens after all) and then doing oddjobs to fund a return trip or to continue the trip.
But actual begging?
Just reverse the thing and you have enough material for a far right propaganda ads to last 10 years with "lazy brown people being beggar thieves ruining the country".
I fail to put into words how revolting this begapcking thing is.
I can get traveling, running out of funds (shit happens after all) and then doing oddjobs to fund a return trip or to continue the trip.
But actual begging?
Just reverse the thing and you have enough material for a far right propaganda ads to last 10 years with "lazy brown people being beggar thieves ruining the country".
I fail to put into words how revolting this begapcking thing is.
It's a lot easier to single out the white ones in countries that are much more homogenous and nonwhite. Plus there's the greater financial imbalance implicit, and then the cultural baggage of east/west global north/south stuff to factor in.
Absent any actual numbers, this video and our experiences are pretty much Confirmation Bias: The Thread.
Either way, if you're young and abled-bodied, traveling around and begging to do it is gauche no matter the context, it just starts getting worse depending on who you are and where you're doing it.
We're only at this point because PoC are tired of tiptoeing around the feelings of white people in the first place. We've teaching the same lessons and having the same arguments for centuries so the issue isn't really in how the message is delivered. People are on the defensive because they don't want to listen to what we have to say to start with.
Drifters/ transients aren't really anything new. I'm just surprised people would do this willingly. I mean, why the hell would anyone willingly travel around the world begging and scraping by to survive just to sightsee? Couldn't they just go to their public library and use google? That seems like it would be a lot cheaper and safer to me. People are weird.
LOL super subtle and kinda obscure if you are not a political nerd
From what I've heard you can make quite a bit of money begging if you know how to do it. Especially if it's a group of people pooling their money together. They get enough to travel and eat comfortably.
I guess it's their mindset that it's easier to beg than work. Which I suppose it is. If you feel no shame or embarrassment then I imagine it's an easy thing to do.
Are you really surprised? I once had a white guy tell me he's never had any benefit from being white.
please tell me her self righteous sass and headbob are just an act, talk about obnoxious
but i agree with the video's point, these travelers should have brought more money or budgeted better, otherwise they're essentially taking money that could have gone to people who are borderline destitute
but i agree with the video's point, these travelers should have brought more money or budgeted better, otherwise they're essentially taking money that could have gone to people who are borderline destitute
look guys, say what you will about the 'it's not just white people' crowd, but you've gotta admit, you can't travel to any North American city without tripping over dozens upper-middle class people from Jakarta and Bangladesh selling hugs and Polaroids of tourist attractions next to actual homeless panhandlers. total parity!
I can kind of see people making some decent cash by taking advantage of overly generous/ compassionate people.
My God though, you would have to have zero shame to do something like begpacking. My self-esteem would be at rock bottom just begging to survive. Begging to travel? I can't even imagine doing something like that. I would hate myself.
I see a lot of veterans begging for money because the state failed them in Az but I have actually never seen anyone do that in the Grand Canyon or even near it.
Speaking about minorities trying to get cash near tourist attractions, you have a lot of that in France and they're selling stuffs like keychains or whatever instead of just begging like beggars. And they're also not middle class people from Africa doing that while they could totally spare the cash for a more normal travel either.
Like wtf is this shit.
I just don't get it. They had enough money to fly across the world. I don't know if you guys get charged the same, but it sure as shit ain't cheap to book a flight from South East Asia to America. And lets not pretend begging will earn you enough cash for a return ticket. I don't even know how you can claim to be poor considering how strong the dollar/euro is compared to our currency. What the average American makes in a month can feed a Malaysian/Indonesian for a year.
It's just gross.
Only white people could get away with stuff like this. Imagine anyone with darker skin trying to attempt this, you are getting nothing but funny looks.
Even I was homeless, I didn't feel comfortable asking for money, but I see able bodied, employed people on Twitter all the time asking for a handout.