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Young woman harassed to the point of police intervention for asking Bernie Sanders a tough question about sexual harassment.
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I'm poking fun at your typo. The content of his post looks pretty reasonable to me. Criticizing the moderation team should be fair ground, especially when they come in with a heavy hand to curtail discussion so it only focuses on talking points they deem acceptable.
I've never watched TYT a day in my life but they seem like your typical internet "leftist" fandom, and all fandoms are toxic.
Lol, equating TYT to Alex Jones. I think this made it clear whether you're arguing in good faith here.
Except that expectation of disclosure should not go to where a college student interns.
And that's what this is about.
Using the rest as cover for this is bunk.
TYT should handle this better, agreed. It's important to point out the specific lobbies of the question askers though, not sure what the correct line to tread is.
After watching the video Powered Egg begged to be posted in the OP... I completely agree with Cheebo. TYT is pushing invalid conspiracy theories while framing their position as ones of victims of the establishment. They are explicit in their condemnation of the establishment VERSUS Bernie Sanders, as if he is somehow not a part of the establishment. They needlessly dox people simply because they asked tough questions of Bernie. All of this is done with the excuse that they're "fighting back" against the mainstream media.
These are all tactics of conspiratorial blowhards like Alex Jones.
Where did you find those numbers at? And is that residents or measurements of the people who work in DC? There are residents who are retired, don't work, or work outside of DC. Likewise, people in politics may choose not to actually reside in DC itself.
I'm seeing 364,000 direct gov't employees, but 960,500 in "professional, business and other services" which could be anything like banking or marketing, 457,300 in education and health care, etc.
https://wtop.com/business-finance/2018/02/exactly-many-washingtonians-work-federal-government/
I don't find it pejorative, it sounds kind of cool lol. I think it must be the same way right wingers felt when they were called 'deplorable' and started printing up shirts.
Bernie needs to cut ties with both TYT and the Justice Dems completely. It's obvious that these groups will resort to anything to prop up their ideal candidate and will blast everyone who doesn't fall in line with them. The defenders in this thread are appalling, the video posted by TYT led to further harassment and public shaming of this woman to the point it required police action and TYT appear to not give one iota of a fuck about it. That's the takeaway here, not if CNN was bad for highlighting people's positions the way they did. That's completely irrelevant to the issue of a woman being harassed by Bernie supporters. Bernie needs to put his foot down and tell his supporters to stop, full stop. He needs to pull himself and his staff away from TYT and their organizations. He needs to support woman and not the groups that encourage harassment in his name.
This is an extremely easy concept to grasp, stop with this #NotAllBernieSupporters crap.
This is an extremely easy concept to grasp, stop with this #NotAllBernieSupporters crap.
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They didnt try to find their facebooks because they suspected CNN lied about their careers (they had no reason to assume so or even consider that). They looked them up on facebook and so on because they asked Bernie tough questions and were trying to dig up any dirt they could find on them because of this.
This woman is an intern while she studies at college.
She is not a lobbyist, should not be painted, it is actually incredibly dishonest to do so.
Shit, OP's source link disagrees with his allegations against TYT:
Did TYT air their segment as a live reaction to the CNN town hall or was it hours or days after?
Did TYT air their segment as a live reaction to the CNN town hall or was it hours or days after?
Rational?? Really? You are providing personal anicdotes about morons and trying to act like it is core to the biggest lefist movement in US electoral politics maybe ever. The internet has broken everyone's brain. It's telling that your list of reasons for Hilary losing include everything but the fault of Hilary. Blaming everybody else is really easy.
Yes, TYT aired a live segment of the Town Hall. As mentioned in the video that Powdered Egg posted. In fact, one of the commentators at one point mentions that information was dug up during that live segment.
So.......
You should stop drawing these ridiculous equivalences and using good faith social movements in an attempt to shut down your political opponents.
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They were going at the questioners on the livestream during the debate that night.
They encouraged their viewers to send them information as well.
Bernie needs to distance himself from the conspiracy contingent on the left, it's toxic af. I don't think he will though.
He already kind of did address it, but knowing how conspiracists and harassers work, it'll ultimately fall on deaf ears
I don't know, Obama seems to have washed his hand off the "Obama boys" stigma pretty quick, no one even mentions it around here.
Love me some Pod Save America. Fully endorse everyone moving from TYT to PSA.
Fine.
Hmm I hear you, but where is the line? And why hide this? Is it wrong to not be convinced that CNN did not had the best intentions in their questioner line-up?
I get it, this does not need to go further into deep state bullshit or conspiracy theory but it's not nothing as CNN even reacted to it.
Any form of doxxing and harassment is despicable. I'm glad Sanders denounced this behavior. If he's going to be president, he'll have to be ready for these tough types of questions from anyone, and regardless of who these people may be, they should feel absolutely free to ask any candidate any question they want without being harassed for it. That's the only way this works.
I don't think they were hiding it, I just think it was deemed irrelevant. The fact that she's a student in DC is far more relevant to the question that was asked, not her internship at some DC lobbying firm.
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It's wrong because it was "found" because they attempted to doxx her for asking Bernie a tough question. They weren't digging into her facebook/linkedin for innocent reasons. There is no innocent spin to explain why they started searchng her out after a tough question. It was to dig up dirt on her because they didn't like the question she asked.
Well we draw the line far beyond interns at a lobbyist firm while pursing her education
And what do you mean hide.
She's a fucking intern, that shit doesn't need to be posted under her name
But you're right it's all just a conspiracy.
To add, the information that TYT dug up and put out there for their rabid fanbase went even beyond simply "she's an intern at a lobbying firm". I just don't understand why people think it would be relevant or necessary information to frame the question.
Oh no this thread has reached to point where I can't tell if this is serious or not.
Read your own source:
AND THEN:
So, that's 700k people directly in government alone. We don't have exact numbers for how many of that 960k is employed in lobbying firms, yes.
But, let me put it this way:
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/
There are 11.5k registered feaderal lobbyists(These are businesses not people) in D.C. Each of these lobbyists have their own firms and staff that is, if anything, greater than the thousands of people that each of the hundreds of congressmen employ. And their firms are mostly going to be based in D.C. for obvious reasons. And then these lobbyists have consultants that they work with who have their own firms but aren't called "lobbyists". My point is, it beggars belief that the 960k in professional business isn't mostly tied to the lobbying industry in one way or the other. This also isn't even to talk about DNC and RNC firms, advertising firms that are there to get that sweet campaign cash, and otherwise.
In either case, I believe I've sufficiently proven that, if you were to do a completely random sample in D.C., you're gonna have a large percentage of political operatives.
If you do a completely random samples in D.C. Democratic primary voters, you're gonna have a large percentage of those be political operatives for the democratic party.
I think it's fine to think CNN is awful. CNN is generally awful regardless of the specifics of this situation and frankly people should stop watching cable news entirely as it is designed to damage your understanding of current events.
If thinking CNN is awful leads you to believe that they got Democrats to be in this town hall then I guess that's...fine? Seems weird to me, if they hated Bernie shouldn't they get Ben Shapiro to ask questions or something? Like seems kind of telling that the assumption is that CNN would torpedo Bernie with his worst enemies and that those worst enemies are young women who want to be Democratic politicians. But sure, okay.
Ultimately, though, do you think the question is fundamentally unacceptable? I don't think the answer can really be yes. But if the answer is no then it's not clear why the asker matters. If they asked all the same questions but it was Jake Tapper asking them all instead of people in the town hall, would that have been totally fine? If so, why?
what's good faith about using your political positions to further your capital gains which is all TYT and Cenk cares about?
Honestly, you should ask youself: "What would CNN gain by willfully keeping this information back"
Something tells me we're all gonna die sooner rather than later.
I get all my relevant contemporary political information from "Hardcore History"
Again, what TYT did was irresponsible and unprofessional for a news company. Disappointed in both Cenk and Ana for riling up the toxic subset of Lefties (of which they seem to be part of in light of recent events)
Bernie did pretty much everything he could short of calling out TYT directly, which he probably won't, because they + other leftist youtube channels are a big part of his media arm.
Bernie did pretty much everything he could short of calling out TYT directly, which he probably won't, because they + other leftist youtube channels are a big part of his media arm.
To be clear, never had a problem with the questioning. If you're going to be President or in the public sector, be prepared to answer any question at any time.
Good choice. +1
I agree comparing them to Breitbart is bit much but they're still garbage and have been for a very long time.They're just a different type of garbage. Some of the stuff they do is not at all okay. The very fact they still employee Jimmy Dore continues to be a massive red flag with what he says and how he conducts himself.
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