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You think Square is brave enough to greenlight intact remake of first Drakengard/Drag-on Dragoon?
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Not sure if it's worth it. It's not a question of bravery, the game hasn't aged well and lacks the legacy and following to justify all the work a remake would take to make it acceptable AND palpable. Nier is flawed but impactful and its qualities helped carry its legacy to Automata and the upcoming remake, Drakengard 1 isn't at that level of merit.
Drakengard with combat by platinum, better controls and design for the other gameplay sections, and the original rejected version of Ending E with the sing off against a J-Pop idol to decide the fate of the world.
Would end up being a game of the generation candidate if they went all in and tried their best to make it an amazing experience. Let Yoko Taro go ham with it.
Would end up being a game of the generation candidate if they went all in and tried their best to make it an amazing experience. Let Yoko Taro go ham with it.
What?
The idea that Nier is continuing with a remaster of Replicant and perhaps Nier 3 is a good sign that they are not afraid to do this whole universe. We may see it again.
The idea that Nier is continuing with a remaster of Replicant and perhaps Nier 3 is a good sign that they are not afraid to do this whole universe. We may see it again.
The protagonist is a genocidal psychopath. The point of the game is that the people who participate in this type of stories would be bad people in real life.
It's an art piece more than a video game. If you play it go for it, but don't expect to hold up as well in terms of gameplay as Automata did.
Nah, it wouldn't be Drakengard without the jank and edgy grimdark story. It's still worth playing to this day.
More for my OCD, but here's the original upload of that interview on Square Enix's official YouTube channel:
It's a hateful game. Not in a way that other hateful games like Postal and Manhunter were but in such a way that you are very clearly meant to feel uncomfortable about it. Especially since one of the characters in your party is a child. It's an extremely unique game essentially depicting a world losing its collective mind, which is best shown in how the soundtrack plays like Stravinsky's Rite of Spring. It is an extremely unpleasant game to play but not in a bad way because there is some purity it it's intent.
I don't think there will be a game like Drakengard ever again, I will never play it again but I am glad it exists.
The one sided incest mentioned in this thread is also played extremely straight where the character involved responds in complete disgust. It's not titillating at all.
For those reasons I don't think a remake can work. The game only works because it works so damn hard to make the experience so unpleasant and maddening that all of the heinous elements mostly work.
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One of my first dark fantasy games that i enjoyed the combat aspect so much but at the same time, highly disturbed with the story. I'd love a remake or remastered version on PS5.
Crazy to think that (by proxy) Final Fantasy is now connected to this.
I think they absolutely should remake this game, Drakengard 2 and Drakengard 3 under the new Nier Replicant Remastered engine.
Yoko Taro finally has mainstream brand recognition so his games are bound to sell from hereon out, and Drakengard is too deeply connected to Nier to be ignored.
If Drakengard is too intense for you, you can have a more tame experience with Drakengard 2.
I don't buy that, Final Fantasy XVI is rated 18+ so a remaster/remake of Drakengard can be approved if Square Enix wanted to. It's simply boils down to whether it's in Yoko Taro's and Square Enix best interest.
Yoko Taro finally has mainstream brand recognition so his games are bound to sell from hereon out, and Drakengard is too deeply connected to Nier to be ignored.
If Drakengard is too intense for you, you can have a more tame experience with Drakengard 2.
I don't buy that, Final Fantasy XVI is rated 18+ so a remaster/remake of Drakengard can be approved if Square Enix wanted to. It's simply boils down to whether it's in Yoko Taro's and Square Enix best interest.
There's no way. I don't think you see a game with the title Drakengard ever again, if Yoko Taro pitched a new Drakengard they'd probably get him to brand it with the Nier name.
Why would they? The game is terrible, it only has the shock value going on.
It's as connected as FFX to FFVII, so not much really.
It's as connected as FFX to FFVII, so not much really.
Yoko Taro says he'll do a Drakengard remaster collection if Square Enix pays for it
Alright alright alright Drakengard is a wonderful, weird series that thrust Yoko Taro, also known as “that guy that wears...
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Ending E of Drakengard is the prequel to Nier. So technically speaking, Nier is the canon Drakengard 2 without really being called Drakengard 2 because Drakengard 2 is not canon to Yoko Taro's mythology.
Even if the Replicant remaster/remake does really well, there's still not much incentive for SE to greenlight a Drakengard remake. That money would be better off used towards more Nier content. They greenlit(?) Drakengard 3 and I expect that to stay in obscurity on the PS3.
I kind of don't think SE would give much of a shit about the controversial content, since the marketing artwork for Replicant shows Yonah, as a child, with her panties exposed. Of course that artwork is missing on the EN website but not Kaine being called a hermaphrodite.
I kind of don't think SE would give much of a shit about the controversial content, since the marketing artwork for Replicant shows Yonah, as a child, with her panties exposed. Of course that artwork is missing on the EN website but not Kaine being called a hermaphrodite.
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I would really like them to eventually do a remake or enhanced edition of Drakengard 1 and especially of 3 as well, but I think it's more of a question of bandwidth and how many other things they're working on right now rather than a question of bravery.
TLDR, I can see them eventually revisiting the series, but they have enough on their plate right now.
TLDR, I can see them eventually revisiting the series, but they have enough on their plate right now.
Wait what, wtf
I hope I'm misreading this second post
Shock value, that's what Yoko Taro wanted to project in Drakengard. The main character's sister even has unrequited incestuous feelings for him.
They will remaster and rename it to Drak n' GardYoko Taro says he'll do a Drakengard remaster collection if Square Enix pays for it
Alright alright alright Drakengard is a wonderful, weird series that thrust Yoko Taro, also known as “that guy that wears...
I don't think remaking a Dynasty Warriors knockoff from a decade and a half ago would do them many favors. Like Drakengard is a terrible game. The story is batshit insane, but the actual game part is garbage no one should ever revisit.
XVI has acceptable themes of violence that aren't pushing into societal taboos. You aren't going to see them engaging in some grim-dark edgelord fantasy with controversial elements.
You really think SE would be able to publish a game right now in a time where every single piece of media is criticized on all sides by everybody? In a game where the main characters are pedophiles, rapists, cannibals, mass murderers, and into incest. Let us not stop there, you really think they would get away with creepy grotesquerie babies coming from the sky then eat a crazy woman and everything else around?
That just isn't going to happen my dude. Drakengard 3 was apparently already pushing the envelope and it's hardly as bad as the first game, and the game self-censors itself for comedic value and to show that things that were easily passable in the late 90s and early 2000s were not possible in modern times. SE would be limited with which markets they could sell this game in and I doubt it would hit an M rating even in the US now. It'd get hit with AO immediately just on the themes alone.
And if they did manage to sell it, the game would be eviscerated by critics unaware of the franchise.
Yoko Taro is using more elegant storytelling that still hits at the core of his messaging to tell his stories now. Any money and resources given to him would be better spent on a new IP or new games in the NieR franchise since it is clearly a successful brand for SE.
You always push against business logic just to get your voice heard no matter what site you are on, huh...
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Posted throughout the thread, cannibalism, incest, pedophile. All these things are in other forms of media but video games get extra scrutiny in the west.
Yoko Taro has gotten away with it during the 2000s when censorship guidelines were even stricter then they are now so I fail to see how a remaster of a pre-existing product would become a spotlight of controversy when said themes that you believe wouldn't be accepted were surprisingly accepted in the context of the game's narrative. They can slap an AO rating, budget the game accordingly and call it a day.
Controversy on a video game just popularises the game even further, just look at The Last of Us Part II and how the vocal minority who were "outraged" by the game only served to bolster awareness of the title. You claim I push against business logic, but is it not business logic to revisit the Yoko Taro property that introduced his signature style of storytelling now that his brand recognition is at an all-time high?
Nier was splintered from Drakengard 1, and unless a retcon is introduced to sever the storytelling connection, Drakengard 1 is too important to be left in the sidelines. That doesn't necessarily mean that it will actually happen, but there's no reason to not have hope of a possibility of it happening.
Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft aren't going to accept or sell an AO game in 2020 onward, retailers won't carry it, and Square would never publish it.
Now? Yeah, I think it could happen. After Automatas success they're not gonna shy away from Yoko Taro doin' what he wants to. So if it's in his books it may happen. The man has fans that draw the company tons of money off of game sales/merch now (haha certainly not me haha).
Yoko Taro likes to shock, subvert expectations and etc. He wants you to think you're playing as a hero when you're actually playing as an incestuous psychopath.
