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You haven’t played the best PlayStation exclusive of 2020 - Polygon (it's 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim)
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Fuck yeah more 13 Sentinels praise!
Game is my GOTY after some thinking. It is such an awesome experience.
Game is my GOTY after some thinking. It is such an awesome experience.
Pretty sure canonically all the main characters are 18 or above anyway, so it's really more their appearence that bothers people, which is completely fair, it's weird and uncomfortable even if it, luckily, doesn't really show up that much.
I've also finished the game and know the real spoiler reason for how they look the way they are, the naked cockpit view is still both dumb and unnecessary, especially when it obviously sexualizes the girls more than the guys..
Without going into too much detail, no, it's not the creepy "oh they're actually hundreds of years old & just LOOK that young" crap. More "they're around 18-19ish"
If anything, this is waaaaaay less horny compared to Dragon's Crown. There's one woman with large cleavage who wears a super skin tight suit, but that's about it.
Absolutely fair & justified, I just wanted to give context. Granted, it is rather silly we have to say it's a spoiler when it comes to the nudity/"they're not underage but we can't say why, for the love of god just trust us"
Completely agreed.
Unfortunately worn out trying to argue with disingenuous posters that pretend it's full of fanservice to keep people from playing the game, but if you're interested in the slightest you should buy it.
Unfortunately worn out trying to argue with disingenuous posters that pretend it's full of fanservice to keep people from playing the game, but if you're interested in the slightest you should buy it.
Hmm my interest is piqued, I have never heard of this. The art style reminds me of Muramasa, is it the same team?
And Dreams, and Persona 5 Royal and Final Fantasy VII Remake and Nioh 2 (and more, not to mention a shit ton of console exclusives like Fall Guys and Genshin Impact).
Oh right.
Should be mentioned they actually managed to have a good gay relationship between men in this game. None of that stereotypical or homophobic crap.
Should be mentioned they actually managed to have a good gay relationship between men in this game. None of that stereotypical or homophobic crap.
Yes, VanillaWare. They also did Odin Sphere & Dragon's Crown.
I didn't like it. I would rather have watched a movie or read a book of this game. I found the RTS segments annoying/uninteresting and the actual mechanics of walking around and reading one line at a time and going through their stupid thought bubbles to be irritating.
I am sorry.
I am sorry.
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I am so goddamn sick of people suggesting these weeb visual novels are good games.
Not sure if it's the best exclusive of the year but definitely in my top for GOTY this year, fantastic game
I really want to play this but the thought of having to turn on my PS4 to play a VN is such a turn off. Give it to me portable!
Indeed. This game is just wonderful. I think it edges out Ghost of Tsushima as my favorite PS4 game in 2020.
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's GOTY, but it definitely has the best narrative. I was very sceptical going in as I figured it'd be another example of era weebs overhyping an anime game, but nah it genuinely deserves all the praise and then some.
IMO hard to defend the cockpit views when you contrast Fuyusaki and Kisaragi with any other character, including even the three other women. As far as I remember (mostly thinking in terms of the dialogue between the characters) it would've been an otherwise completely sexless function of the game to have the characters naked in their cockpits. But the portraits felt the need to go the extra step. It's a flaw. Thankfully for me not a dealbreaker because the game is fantastic.
It will likely never be ported, Vanillaware almost went bankrupt just getting the PS4 version out and they had to cancel the Vita version. Unless it was a huge success in the west and Atlus decides to commission a port themselves, but I don't know about that. And for people mentioning the nudity: You can't actually see anything and it applies to both genders, so you're not gonna be seeing naked boobs or butts at all.
They did though start to form the shape of a butt on two female characters' portraits, along with their bare back in a *interesting* position, so I don't know if the description you gave is the full picture.
So, I keep hearing from people on ERA to play this. I've gone to PSN now three times over the last few months with intent to purchase. I watch the trailers to remind me what it is and hopefully push me to a buy. As soon as the videos shows some character beats, it always makes me uncomfortable and I decide to wait again.
To be completely transparent, it's the sexualization of seemingly school-age children that gives me pause and I re-evaluate supporting it.
For those that have played, how much of that is prevalent in the game?
To be completely transparent, it's the sexualization of seemingly school-age children that gives me pause and I re-evaluate supporting it.
For those that have played, how much of that is prevalent in the game?
I agree that aspect wasn't necessary, but this is definitely not a game that anyone would play for fanservice since it's tame even compared to Dragon's Crown. It's certainly not the focus of the game in any case, I don't think.
You guys...
There is no child nudity in this game, and no, there is no stupid 1000 year old dragon loli explanation either. If you really want a real explanation at risk of having this part of the story spoiled for you, then by all means click the spoiler below:
WARNING ACTUAL GAME ENDING SPOILERS:
For real. Only click if you have no intention at all of playing regardless of what anybody says:
All of the playable characters are actually 18 years of age. When you see them in their "nude" portraits during fighting, they're not actually in robot cockpits, but specialized growth pods like what you see in The Matrix. The schoolgirl and schoolboy versions of the characters going through daily life are never seen nude, and are digital representations of the actual characters, still in their pods. There is obviously a meticulous explanation for all of this but I'm not here to explain the whole plot.
This is a great game, but it is definitely not intended for a large segment of gamers. If you don't like anime, this isn't going to convert you. If you do and like VNs then you will probably think this is amazing.
Same thing happened to Persona 5. Anime and JRPG fans gush over it since it is tops in the genre, so the game becomes more mainstream and other folks who don't like that genre play it and then are very unimpressed.
Same thing happened to Persona 5. Anime and JRPG fans gush over it since it is tops in the genre, so the game becomes more mainstream and other folks who don't like that genre play it and then are very unimpressed.
I'm torn on trying this one. I loved Muramasa and I'd like to try another good Vanillaware title sometime, but the VN/RTS gameplay doesn't especially strike my interest. That being said, with the praise it's been getting, I'd be willing to give it a chance, but then again, even just from watching PS Underground's gameplay video, the sexualization is a little off-putting to me. Granted, I'm sure that Muramasa had more of that kind of stuff than I even remember, and I loved that one. However, it seems like there's a fair amount that I'd have to grit my teeth and tolerate in order to experience the story.
Clearly I'm part of this nefarious conspiracy to prevent Vanillaware from making money.
I don't even really care how much you "actually see," but more the context and portrayal. For example, the differences in poses and framing between the male and female pilots are visually communicating more than just "these characters are unclothed". Even seeing one character lift up her skirt to summon a mech made me roll my eyes. I know it kinda comes with the territory with most anime-ish games, but I'd almost rather have full nudity that's properly contextualized than even mild fan service.
Still, I get that it's relatively tame, and I wouldn't necessarily consider it a dealbreaker for myself, but it's definitely a bit of a turnoff, and all the "it's not that bad" comments don't really make it less of a turnoff.
Clearly I'm part of this nefarious conspiracy to prevent Vanillaware from making money.
I don't even really care how much you "actually see," but more the context and portrayal. For example, the differences in poses and framing between the male and female pilots are visually communicating more than just "these characters are unclothed". Even seeing one character lift up her skirt to summon a mech made me roll my eyes. I know it kinda comes with the territory with most anime-ish games, but I'd almost rather have full nudity that's properly contextualized than even mild fan service.
Still, I get that it's relatively tame, and I wouldn't necessarily consider it a dealbreaker for myself, but it's definitely a bit of a turnoff, and all the "it's not that bad" comments don't really make it less of a turnoff.
Heh, just platinum'd it today. Absolutely worth playing. Love how you can play it in whatever order you want and it all still comes together nicely in the end. Not even being a VN fan, I really appreciated how well done it was across so many threads on top of the intriguing overarching story. And the RTS section is so addicting!
The sexualization is pretty much entirely limited to the cockpit view of the characters that shows on occasion during the battles. I found it uncomfortable as well, but it really doesn't show up that much.
I did finish Steins Gate. The story was okay, but the thing that I really hate about that game and AI is all the misogynistic bullshit. It's not funny. It's not cute. It's offensive and something that feels so dated. I don't know how this crap is still acceptable in Japan (seems to only be Japanese games that still do this, and specifically VNs). Plus there seems to be a lot of homophobic shit in these games too.
I guess my question should be how sexist is this game. Because if it's in the same category as Steins Gate and AI it's a hard pass for me anyway.
But may be a moot point if it never leaves the PS ecosystem
I'm waiting for this to go cheap. I keep hoping for something Xenogears tier in terms of Japanese sci-fi stories but end up getting burned by a lot of stuff I don't like.
Thanks for the response! I'll keep it in mind after I finish the other games in my queue.
Ahh, I see. I think Sentinels does have less particularly egregious scenes than S;G or Ai, but and this might be a bit of a personal distaste, but there are a couple girl characters who feel like their personality can be largely boiled down to liking a particular male cast member which might annoy you as well, and there is distinctly some male gaze-y moments in general with the cockpit view/one of the older cast members, so less so than the previous two, but not exactly void of it either imo. Ofc, different people have different thresholds/POVs on these things.
Honestly, if it's a moot point for you if it stays exclusive, then I expect it to be a moot point. I don't personally foresee the game leaving PS4.
I will say it again, if 13 sentinels had more eyes on it, it would have easily won more awards and praise from sites.
