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You're not at fault. Sam is Norman Reedus. You'll never get over this :p
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You Don't Have To Understand Death Stranding
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You're not at fault. Sam is Norman Reedus. You'll never get over this :p
The game's easy to understand if you absorb the media available. I personally think it looks great because I'm eager to try something a little different, but I appreciate it won't appeal to everyone. That's fine.
Well you said it yourself, the gameplay in his games is normally popular, and it's wrapped in a package that's pleasing on the eye. So people are willing to engage far more with the weird philosophical thematic links.
Comparing that to someone like Taro, who makes games that have been generally less appealing to actually play for audiences whilst being lower budget. It's no surprise that every game but Automata hasn't done well critically and been niche sales-wise. So of course his ability to write (as you say) isn't as acclaimed as someone like Kojima.
This will quite literally be the most fun game about reading all of the reviews from the masses trying to score it.
in the future, we will spend our time absorbing the media, & then excreting our responses...
it has to be, you'll have someone who has been in every thread about the game(posting dozens of times) say this.
That's why is the GOTY already for some people... Only the chosen one's (by Kojima) are going to understand this game.
The rain is called time fall, for some reason it accelerates time with everything it touches(see grass growing and dying)
BTs are creatures from another dimension, when they consume people it causes a void out(big explosion), this will happen to you in when you die from them, causing the area you are in to be destroyed.
And no you won't have to sooth the baby all the time. Just when its scared so stay on your toes and be nice to bb.
i don't understanding this obsession with having a full literal understanding of art anyway, even after watching it. there's lots of things i don't literally understand about the last season of Twin Peaks, but it's the best season of TV ever made.
why do you need answers to everything?
there are plenty of legit reasons to be concerned about DS. not understanding isn't one of them and it's one of the more exciting things about the game to me. it's got less interesting as we've learned more of the 'literal' answers pre-launch imo
why do you need answers to everything?
there are plenty of legit reasons to be concerned about DS. not understanding isn't one of them and it's one of the more exciting things about the game to me. it's got less interesting as we've learned more of the 'literal' answers pre-launch imo
Character designs go to Shinkawa for most of his stuff. As far as gameplay mechanics, yes he pioneered stealth gameplay, it doesn't mean that all of his attempts at game development have been just as original imo
I like imbuing the concept of omoiyari into a game as a concept, but if I'm somehow supposed to feel compassionate and empathetic toward a bunch of clones of the side mission guys shouting "Hey!" from futuristic RVs then I'm gonna feel frustrated instead
agreed. but what he's done well, he's done as well as anyone's ever done, something for which he most definitely deserves credit...
Honestly you and several other people in here who just come in to point out that people are "trolling/memeing" because they genuinely don't know what to think of this game is far more annoying than people trying to understand what this game is about. Why even post?
I've just watched that DS video on GB. Its my first time seeing any gameplay. Maybe this is a weird take, but it's got this thing where it reminds of Ulysses. With its unapologetic focus on something that's quite mundane and also the weird earthiness of it all (wee, poo and cum everywhere)
Mostly tho I think it could be overdesigned. Every system feels like its there to point to the "strand" thing, but maybe they dont all fit together very well.
MGS games were full of unnecessary details but it was often off to the side, a fun thing you can use. Starving soldiers in mgs3 and feeding them poison food. Shooting out radios in Mgs2. Here tho the weird details feels like the whole point of the game and the loop is always in service to this.
Like he's been given this carte blanche to do what he probably thinks is the ultimate game experience. I think I'll still probably hate it, but I suppose it's wrong to begrudge someone trying to do something like this.
The part where it turns into an actual video game almost feels like the one part where someone said "no, you cant just make a really boring game that's not going to fly dude". So you get the TPS action segments that stand out sort of weird.
Mostly tho I think it could be overdesigned. Every system feels like its there to point to the "strand" thing, but maybe they dont all fit together very well.
MGS games were full of unnecessary details but it was often off to the side, a fun thing you can use. Starving soldiers in mgs3 and feeding them poison food. Shooting out radios in Mgs2. Here tho the weird details feels like the whole point of the game and the loop is always in service to this.
Like he's been given this carte blanche to do what he probably thinks is the ultimate game experience. I think I'll still probably hate it, but I suppose it's wrong to begrudge someone trying to do something like this.
The part where it turns into an actual video game almost feels like the one part where someone said "no, you cant just make a really boring game that's not going to fly dude". So you get the TPS action segments that stand out sort of weird.
The whole asking of the question and the chat about it is indicative in and of itself of a more interesting/tiresome (somehow) question: why do we talk about games the way we do?
People who genuinely want to understand what he game is about will want to experience it for themselves.
You are either in, or you are out/want to check it out later at a discount or watch someone stream it.
The figuring it out/experiencing and interpreting it is the thing.
Yes, it's No Man's Sky all over again.
I'm not really bothered on what he does with his characters, but the excuse was so fucking bad. It made me think "this guy is a bullshitter lol"
Note that I still like some of his games and MGS3 is one of my faves.
It feels like gamespot crew trying to hold back laughter from the kojima creating new genre comment.
I don't think it was ever trying to be anything but blatant. I could be completely wrong but I always took that words and deeds thing to be something of an obvious joke from him. He's pretty unashamedly into blatant sexiness, whether it be men or women.
Maybe something is lost in translation and he actually was being serious, but I felt like it's everybody else that took him at face value when he was probably being a troll.
When ya'll learn what this revolutionary new genre called "Strand" is you will be ashamed of your words and deeds.
What?
You realize $60 isn't a little amount of money.
People are just trying to understand what this game is about before dropping money on it. Why be rude about it instead of (like some kind users have already done) explain it more clearly for them?
Not necessarily. I imagine it'll all come out in the wash since Kojima loves unwieldy exposition, but there is no hard and fast rule saying anyone has to understand anything.
Eh, that's relative to what you do for a living.
If people were actually trying to understand, they'd understand already.
The issue is trying to approach every game as falling under the traditional definition of fun, or rather, treating them as dopamine triggers. This is a game that for all intents and purposes embraces the hell out of mundanity and expects the player to make choices based on how they think things will play out when they leave safe houses. Where you have to make choices about your preparation vs your mobility and balance. That to me as a person who likes to go off the beaten path in open world games and explore to get comfortable with/push the limits of the mechanics, sounds like a really cool experience since for once, it's not centered around combat.
Thi is such a bad take as quite literally almost every game in existence is designed with a specific loop in mind even games that seem like they have a diverse swath of unique content and it's rarely not easily discernible.
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Pretty much sums up almost every recent thread about Death Stranding.
Yeah this is me kinda. But then some hope that kojima is hiding a lot of surprises and twists, so i am wondering if that's true or not. Cant buy this day one
It's not the game's fault people are being intentionally obtuse and ignorant.
No shit its relative? Doesn't change the fact that for some people it's not so easy just to drop $60 on Kojima's name alone.
I started my career this year, I have maybe watched the first couple of trailers for this game, never ended up watching anything else. I don't know the gameplay loop. Of course, I'm a bad example as I'm a huge Kojima fanboy and will get it regardless but still... that's not the case for many others.
Exercise some patience with people who don't engorge themselves with every bit of news media for a game.
lmfao
At this point people are being willfully ignorant about what you do in the game and what the story is about.
Maybe because you didn't watch this?
You don't get to go "I DON'T UNDERSTAND, KOJIMA SO PRETENTIOUS" when there's readily available information and video explaining the game.
The director of the game came out and said even he himself didn't understand it. This whole thing has been a cluster fuck of what this game actually is with a director who has intentionally been vague and often unintelligible about this product. Unless youre also calling him obtuse and ignorant as well.
People just really want to find a way to like this game. And that's fine. At the end of the day, even if it's a boring slog that makes no sense, people will at least be able to look back on the wild ride that was the pre-release hype cycle that this game has been.
You could play a drinking game with every Kojima thread. Take a shot every time the words "pretentious", "quiet", "word and deeds", "hack" and "fraud" appears.
I mean, you don't have to pay $60. I'm excited about the game and I'm not getting it day one. If even the 50 minute demo isn't enough to convince you, then just don't buy it day one. I won't. Waiting until it's more affordable.
Only From Software is a day one to me at the moment, except for games with great pre-order deals. Got Control for around $18.
Kojima: "Don't you see? You've been playing Death Stranding all along!"
